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    GDMorti reacted to captsafe66 in Happy Holidays to All!   
    Happy Holidays IOC!
     
    I just want to take a moment to wish everyone a wonderful Holiday Season, no matter what Holiday you may, or may not observe, we all are members of one of the best Detachments of the 501st Legion!
     
    Best wishes to all and to all a good night!
     
    Mark
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    GDMorti got a reaction from AwesomeJediE in Which First Order Member? First Order Uniform Pattern?   
    Thirded the above! ^^^^^^
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    GDMorti reacted to rattleandburn in Which First Order Member? First Order Uniform Pattern?   
    popping in to comment that, as far as we can see now with just the visual dictionary and the film not out at home yet, the FOSB uniform appears to be a different colorway in the same style as major (Rose's disguise) and admiral, as far as seams and trouser shape goes. So if you're looking to build it yourself, you may want to check over in the CRL discussion for that uniform and see the builds of those who have done it for a bit of info on how to get started.
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    GDMorti reacted to KDKdesign in 1st Order Majors and Colonels   
    yeah it looks like it's only the teal uniform Colonel/Major officers who are always wearing a hat - I'm excited to work on improvements to my hat pattern with all the better pics we'll now have to work with - but I like the Hux look without the hat too, gotta show off the that red hair
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    GDMorti got a reaction from Obiwanbologna in 1st Order Majors and Colonels   
    Afternoon all!

    After running this past the tailoring and First Order knowledge of @rattleandburn, @Tentayena and @DarkJedi, I think we're in a really solid place with this draft!
    I took the CRL draft provided on  page three of this thread by @Tutanchseth and used it as a base to build on. A lot of the structure and highlighted changes were  highlighted there, so I elaborated, standardised where I could, and ensured the text was as accurate and technically correct/worded correctly as I could. @rattleandburn was a huge help there for technical wording.
    While working on this draft, a few standardisation issues across all First Order officer CRL's either currently available or in the works were highlighted, but we can discuss those elsewhere.
    Without further ado:
     
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    First Order Major and Colonel CRL Draft:
     
     
    Hair and facial appearance
    For 501st approval:
     
    If hair is worn short, it should not extend past the top of the collar at the back of the neck.
    If hair is long, it should be neat and worn up in a military bun. Hair should also be kept neatly tied back away from the face.
    Costumer is clean shaven.
    If the costumer is wearing makeup, it should be subtle and appear “natural”.
     
    Note: I’m adding apprarance guidelines for generic officers because I believe officers should be neat and tidy/presentable. Possible character specifics for Kaplan and Datoo have been given below for those looking to specifically portray those officers:
     
    Colonel Datoo:
    Costumer is clean shaven.
    Very short, neat, greying (???) hair. Either the costumer’s own hair or a suitable hair appliance such as a wig.
     
    Colonel Kaplan:
    Costumer is clean shaven.
    No visible hair, either through removal of costumer’s own hair or through suitable bald cap application.
     
    Tunic, First Order Major, Teal
    For 501st approval:
     
    Fabric is a medium weight suiting material exactly matching the pants.
    Fabric is a medium-dark blue with notable green tones similar to ‘peacock blue’ or specifically ‘blue teal’
    Fabric is twill, gabardine style weave is most accurate.
    Tunic is fitted to the wearer.
    Tunic is double-breasted and has a left over right closure. It ends atop the right seam as seen in reference pictures. The fastenings for this closure should be completely hidden.
    The top edge of the front closure continues downward from the left-hand side of the collar in a 45 degree angle across the upper chest where it fastens into place.
    The collar is not separated from the front panels, nor the back, by a seam. The only seam is that which follows through from the shoulder seam to the neck, separating front and back of tunic.
    Collar is draped so that it lies neatly against the neck, snugly fitting, with no noticeable bend or wrinkle. Overlap of collar portions is at a noticeable angle, forming a visible V-shape at the center throat - no rounded shape.
    Sleeves are long, and without decoration, folded cuffs or buttons. A visible seam line separates the sleeve from the straight cuff portion, which is approximately 4.5 - 5.5”.
    There are two vertical seams - straight princess seams - running the full length of the garment, on both front and rear of the tunic. These seams meet each other at the shoulder seam, approximately halfway between the neck and the sleeve seam.
    Tunic has a waist seam spanning the full circumference of the waist, hidden by the belt.
    The tunic does not feature epaulets, a center-back seam, nor a First Order insignia patch.
    There should be no visible hems or top-stitching on the sleeves, collar, tunic opening or along the bottom of the tunic.  
    For level two certification (if applicable):
    Tunic is fully lined in a suitable colour.
     
    Jodphur Trousers, First Order Major, Teal
    For 501st approval:
     
    Fabric is a light to medium weight suiting material exactly matching the tunic.
    Flared jodhpurs have sharply pointed, semi-stiff flares in the hip/thigh area, below the tunic and above the knee. The shape of the flared pants at the thighs should be slightly rectangular as per reference images. This flare should follow the flare of the bottom of the tunic. This angle should not change.
    Pockets and waist belts are acceptable, although should not be visible with the tunic on.
    Stirrups may be attached to the leg bottoms to keep material tightly tucked into the boots
    The fabric below the knee should remain fitted to the leg and tuck tightly into the boots.
                 
    Officer Boots, First Order, Black
    For 501st approval:
     
    Knee-high, black, lace-less, smooth non-textured, leather or leather-like material, with moderate to high-gloss shine.
    Rubber rain boots or wellington boots are not acceptable.
    PVC or synthetic material is allowed as long as it gives the appearance of leather.
    There are no stretch panels, buckles, snap tabs, or decoration.
    Boot seams must closely match screen-used boots.
    Boots have conservative or no heels at all. Flat soles are most accurate.
    If zippers are present, they appear on the inner part of the boot shaft only.
    The toe of the boot is rounded, not in a square, rounded, or pointed style
    The top of the boots are flat style, not Spanish, Cowboy, or Superhero.
     
    For level two certification (if applicable):
    Boots have a zipper on the inner shaft.
    Soles are flat, similar to FO TK and TI soles.
    Seams and design must match screen-used boots.         
     Gloves, First Order, Black
    For 501st approval:
     
    Gloves are constructed of a non-textured, black leather or leather-like material.
    Enclosed fingers.
    Gloves are gauntlet length, fitted, and worn underneath the sleeves.
    No buckles, straps, etc.
    Gloves may have stitching detail on the back of the palm similar to First Order Lieutenant for basic approval.
    Belt, First Order
    For 501st approval:
     
    The belt is constructed from a black, non-textured leather or a leather-like material.
    Approximately 2-2.5" in width, by 4.5-5” in length is acceptable. Belt band is not at all wider than buckle.
    Belt must fit snugly over the natural waist of the wearer.
    There are no loops on the belt.
    No sizing holes should be visible.
    The buckle is constructed from a horizontally brushed metal, or metal-looking material.
    Buckle is free of decoration, greeblies or insignia.
    Buckle is rectangular, with sharp-angled edges, approximately 5 1/4" (13.3 cm) long & 2 1/2 high (6.35 cm).
     
    For level two certification (if applicable):
    Belt is made of leather.
    Buckle is made of a brushed metal such as aluminium.
    Buckle has a slight horizontal curve.
    Rank Insignia, First Order
    For 501st approval:
     
    Rank consists of one black band sewn down to the sleeve with white piped/embroidered edges at the top and bottom.
    Aurebesh text dependant on rank is to be embroidered, hand sewn, or applied via vinyl transfer to the center of the band. The text options are:
    “Tarkin” for Major
    “Kaplan” for Colonel
    Bar should be worn on the left side of arm, just above the wrist cuff seam and below the elbow.
    It should be invisibly stitched down to the sleeve in full, or adhered securely using iron-on patch adhesive. The bar should not appear loose.
    Major and Colonel costumes do not have a First Order emblem patch on their sleeves.
     
    For level two certification (if applicable):
     
    Aurebesh text is machine embroidered in white thread matching the edge piping/embroidery discussed above.
    First Order Officer Hat, Teal
    For 501st approval:
      The hat's brim is a black leather, or leather-like material protruding from the front bottom of the dome. It is slightly curved in shape and does not obscure the wearer's eyes.
    The dome fits snugly on the head when worn and should cock slightly back like a baseball cap.
    It is fitted to the head and does not cover the ears.
    There is a tall flap which runs around the back of the hat, snugly fitting around the dome at the back and at both sides.
    The flap piece is not higher than the dome of the hat, and does not overly flex outward. It is effectively vertical in respect to the rest of the hat, and when viewed from the side, it's edges are tilted slightly back at an angle.
    The First Order emblem is centered in the front of the hat's dome. It is black and silver. The silver areas should have a metallic finish.
    The hat is made of the same teal fabric as the tunic and pants, with suitable interfacing or buckram as to give it the correct shape and stiffness.
    The dome has a subtly curved seam separating the front panel from rest of the hat, with a similar seam on the back section of the dome, with one vertical seam running down the dome's back.
    For level two certification (if applicable):
    First Order insignia is a silver/nickel metal pin with a slight brushed finish and black enamel paint. It should be centered in the front of the hat's dome. It is approx 1 1/2" wide & 1 3/4" tall.
    The hat’s brim is leather. Its finish matches that seen in reference images.
    Hat features topstitching on either side of seams on the side and back panels of the hat as well as on the panels at the seam where they meet the dome, but not upon the dome itself. The front dome features top-stitching only at the lower edge where it meets the brim.
    Optional Accessories
    Items below are optional costume accessories. These items are not required for approval, but if present appear as described below.
     Officer's Blaster, First Order
    For 501st approval:
     
    ·        Based on a replica Glock 19 repeating pistol, scratch-built with added greeblies, or a modified commercial replica is acceptable.
    ·        Details to be painted black and silver per reference photos.
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    GDMorti reacted to lellimecnar in Simple Instructions for Uniform Patterns   
    I know others have attempted this before, but as I dug through the forums, I just got more and more confused. So, I bought the McCall's M4745 pattern, and with some help from my seamstress sister, I started documenting some easily reproducible steps to convert that pattern into a screen-accurate officer tunic. And, since I'm a software engineer, I put it all on GitHub Pages, with nice animated diagrams showing exactly what to do.
     
    Here are the tunic instructions:
    http://lellimecnar.com/costuming/imperial-officer/tunic-pattern
     
    I also dug through the CRLs, and put this page together: http://lellimecnar.com/costuming/imperial-officer/reference I'd like to make sure it's as accurate as possible, so I welcome feedback on that as well.
     
    Once I get the pattern right, I'm going to put the actual instructions for sewing the thing here: http://lellimecnar.com/costuming/imperial-officer
     
    I've never actually done this before, and I haven't done much sewing, so I started by making it in muslin. It looks accurate to me, but I think I'm ready to share it with the community here, and get some feedback from those who know what they're doing.
     
    This is all very much a work in progress, but I'm hoping for some feedback before I start cutting any actual fabric... And hopefully it will be helpful to the next guy who comes along looking to get started.
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    GDMorti got a reaction from Tentayena in 1st Order Majors and Colonels   
    I can only explain the working of my friend:
     
    He's working on replica First Order code cylinders, and obtained some of the original Russian dosimeters in order to do this. To ensure his replicas would be as exact as possible, based on physical in-hand originals for measurements.
    The spring clip at the top of the dosimeters is therefore a known entity. It's the exact same as the ones appearing in the movie (the body of the dosimeters is another matter, these have been altered for the movie, but I digress...).
    The spring clip height measurement then, in relation to the belt buckle, can give us a solid buckle measurement. The spring clips would not change from Lieutenant to Lieutenant, and it makes absolutely no sense to machine a buckle to different scales for different uniforms. It's possibly the only real-world accessible, measurable element from any of the costumes, so a useful baseline for scale.
     
    It's a change which probably needs rolling out to Hux and I've recommended it be added to the upcoming Mitaka. Hux's belt buckle CRL info as it stands would be wildly incorrect, allowing up to 5 and 1/4 inch long buckles! :S

    EDIT: The working-out resulted in a 110x53mm buckle.  In my draft I've included an approximation in inches (within a half-inch allowance for basic) and "around 110x53mm" in millimeters. I presume in the final, one or the other will be picked. For level two, an exact buckle to that scale could be required perhaps.
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    GDMorti got a reaction from Tentayena in 1st Order Majors and Colonels   
    Continued:

    Theres a few millimeters of tolerance, so I suppose having a level 2 requirement TO THE PRECISE MILLIMETER is overkill and I'll probably remove it actually.
    Here's his math based on the measurements of an actual russian dosimeter, applied to an onscreen code cylinder spring clip.
     

     
    Reference image distortion and "which pixel you start measuring from" will play a factor in any measurement, so yeah, getting it "to the millimeter" is probably too intense since until we get an actual screen used buckle, that still can't be 110% confirmed. But here's a few decent and very close approximations based on the spring clip shown above:
     


     
    Depending on where you start measuring, you get "wiggle room" of 5ish millimeters for height, 10ish millimeters for length. To wit, I would recommend sticking with "2-2.5inch height, 4-4.5inch length" for buckle size in basic, which is more than enough wiggle room by the millimeter!
     
    I know this is all work for a Lieutenant, but if anyone wants to try and honestly convince me that they machined different little plates of metal per costume then I am ready to be extremely incredulous. :3
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    GDMorti got a reaction from Hask in 1st Order Majors and Colonels   
    Yup
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    GDMorti reacted to gmrhodes13 in *POSSIBLE SPOILERS* New helmet from TLJ   
    Not sure how legit the following image is, more other posters from TLJ can be seen here https://www.bustle.com/p/these-last-jedi-posters-reveal-the-dark-sides-role-in-the-upcoming-movie-exclusive-6742856
     
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    GDMorti got a reaction from Paggeldiwwer in 1st Order Majors and Colonels   
    First of all, yay for teal officers! Can't wait to see more about this.

    Secondly, Mitaka/Lt's CRL is, in my opinion, the most up to date and accurate First Order CRL, utilising a tonne of information and references which were not available when Hux and the subsequent General (Hux's CRL, minus appearance stipulations tbh) was released.

    We've nipped and tucked at Hux, to bring it more in line with an acceptable level of accuracy since release, but oh BOY is there still a lot of work to do there. I would request if possible, that Mitaka's upcoming CRL be the "benchmark" for First Order officer uniforms, over the existing CRL's for Hux and the General which have a large number of inaccuracies and poor wording issues.
    The uniforms do have very striking differences from one rank to the other.. frustratingly... but there are very definite aesthetic and construction similarities which run throughout the First Order as a whole. Mitaka's CRL is super-solid and I'm far less anxious it be used as a base for first draft for Major, than the existing Hux.
    (I'd also like to request Hux and the General go through a series of changes to bring those CRL's more in line with Mitaka/Lieutenant, but that's a discussion for another time.)

    Definitely following this one.
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    GDMorti got a reaction from Paggeldiwwer in 1st Order Majors and Colonels   
    Something we tried to do with Mitaka/Lt's CRL was to try and keep "should"'s in the draft, because at the end of the day we weren't the final say and we were looking to advice the LMO's if anything. If I had my way, the "should's" would all be definite! If a seam is there on screen, it -would- be there in a costume replication. Etc.
     
    I thought that "should"s were removed by the LMO team after a draft is accepted and they went to work on it. They're the ones after all who get the final call on what would definitely need to be on a costume, and what "can" be there/be made level 2 if it is not deemed suitable for basic. Myself and everyone who has looked at the draft prior to posting whose opinions I gathered on it, feel that the basic level proposed is entirely plausible, possible, and can be backed up by reference or technical know-how and explanation.
     
    However! I'm happy to go through and remove all of the "should"s in areas that we feel are "definite"s if this would help the LMO team? I thought that the should's were useful but if thats not the case I'm happy to amend.
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    GDMorti got a reaction from Paggeldiwwer in 1st Order Majors and Colonels   
    From what we've seen, it does not, no. The rear seams are mentioned as two traditional vertical princess seams, I would have assumed that it would be implied that these were the only seams, however yeah it is a change from the norm since Lt and Gen have the center seam. It could be worth stipulating it alongside the lack of epaulettes and bicep First Order insignia patch that its yet another thing missing from "the norm" so far?

    EDIT: At the very least, despite lack of rear references, it would make absolutely no sense whatsoever for there to be a rear center seam or vent! This tunic style is super reminiscent of Imperial uniforms, the closest I've seen amongst the rest of the First Order uniforms!
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    GDMorti got a reaction from Paggeldiwwer in 1st Order Majors and Colonels   
    Afternoon all!

    After running this past the tailoring and First Order knowledge of @rattleandburn, @Tentayena and @DarkJedi, I think we're in a really solid place with this draft!
    I took the CRL draft provided on  page three of this thread by @Tutanchseth and used it as a base to build on. A lot of the structure and highlighted changes were  highlighted there, so I elaborated, standardised where I could, and ensured the text was as accurate and technically correct/worded correctly as I could. @rattleandburn was a huge help there for technical wording.
    While working on this draft, a few standardisation issues across all First Order officer CRL's either currently available or in the works were highlighted, but we can discuss those elsewhere.
    Without further ado:
     
    --------------------------------------------
     
    First Order Major and Colonel CRL Draft:
     
     
    Hair and facial appearance
    For 501st approval:
     
    If hair is worn short, it should not extend past the top of the collar at the back of the neck.
    If hair is long, it should be neat and worn up in a military bun. Hair should also be kept neatly tied back away from the face.
    Costumer is clean shaven.
    If the costumer is wearing makeup, it should be subtle and appear “natural”.
     
    Note: I’m adding apprarance guidelines for generic officers because I believe officers should be neat and tidy/presentable. Possible character specifics for Kaplan and Datoo have been given below for those looking to specifically portray those officers:
     
    Colonel Datoo:
    Costumer is clean shaven.
    Very short, neat, greying (???) hair. Either the costumer’s own hair or a suitable hair appliance such as a wig.
     
    Colonel Kaplan:
    Costumer is clean shaven.
    No visible hair, either through removal of costumer’s own hair or through suitable bald cap application.
     
    Tunic, First Order Major, Teal
    For 501st approval:
     
    Fabric is a medium weight suiting material exactly matching the pants.
    Fabric is a medium-dark blue with notable green tones similar to ‘peacock blue’ or specifically ‘blue teal’
    Fabric is twill, gabardine style weave is most accurate.
    Tunic is fitted to the wearer.
    Tunic is double-breasted and has a left over right closure. It ends atop the right seam as seen in reference pictures. The fastenings for this closure should be completely hidden.
    The top edge of the front closure continues downward from the left-hand side of the collar in a 45 degree angle across the upper chest where it fastens into place.
    The collar is not separated from the front panels, nor the back, by a seam. The only seam is that which follows through from the shoulder seam to the neck, separating front and back of tunic.
    Collar is draped so that it lies neatly against the neck, snugly fitting, with no noticeable bend or wrinkle. Overlap of collar portions is at a noticeable angle, forming a visible V-shape at the center throat - no rounded shape.
    Sleeves are long, and without decoration, folded cuffs or buttons. A visible seam line separates the sleeve from the straight cuff portion, which is approximately 4.5 - 5.5”.
    There are two vertical seams - straight princess seams - running the full length of the garment, on both front and rear of the tunic. These seams meet each other at the shoulder seam, approximately halfway between the neck and the sleeve seam.
    Tunic has a waist seam spanning the full circumference of the waist, hidden by the belt.
    The tunic does not feature epaulets, a center-back seam, nor a First Order insignia patch.
    There should be no visible hems or top-stitching on the sleeves, collar, tunic opening or along the bottom of the tunic.  
    For level two certification (if applicable):
    Tunic is fully lined in a suitable colour.
     
    Jodphur Trousers, First Order Major, Teal
    For 501st approval:
     
    Fabric is a light to medium weight suiting material exactly matching the tunic.
    Flared jodhpurs have sharply pointed, semi-stiff flares in the hip/thigh area, below the tunic and above the knee. The shape of the flared pants at the thighs should be slightly rectangular as per reference images. This flare should follow the flare of the bottom of the tunic. This angle should not change.
    Pockets and waist belts are acceptable, although should not be visible with the tunic on.
    Stirrups may be attached to the leg bottoms to keep material tightly tucked into the boots
    The fabric below the knee should remain fitted to the leg and tuck tightly into the boots.
                 
    Officer Boots, First Order, Black
    For 501st approval:
     
    Knee-high, black, lace-less, smooth non-textured, leather or leather-like material, with moderate to high-gloss shine.
    Rubber rain boots or wellington boots are not acceptable.
    PVC or synthetic material is allowed as long as it gives the appearance of leather.
    There are no stretch panels, buckles, snap tabs, or decoration.
    Boot seams must closely match screen-used boots.
    Boots have conservative or no heels at all. Flat soles are most accurate.
    If zippers are present, they appear on the inner part of the boot shaft only.
    The toe of the boot is rounded, not in a square, rounded, or pointed style
    The top of the boots are flat style, not Spanish, Cowboy, or Superhero.
     
    For level two certification (if applicable):
    Boots have a zipper on the inner shaft.
    Soles are flat, similar to FO TK and TI soles.
    Seams and design must match screen-used boots.         
     Gloves, First Order, Black
    For 501st approval:
     
    Gloves are constructed of a non-textured, black leather or leather-like material.
    Enclosed fingers.
    Gloves are gauntlet length, fitted, and worn underneath the sleeves.
    No buckles, straps, etc.
    Gloves may have stitching detail on the back of the palm similar to First Order Lieutenant for basic approval.
    Belt, First Order
    For 501st approval:
     
    The belt is constructed from a black, non-textured leather or a leather-like material.
    Approximately 2-2.5" in width, by 4.5-5” in length is acceptable. Belt band is not at all wider than buckle.
    Belt must fit snugly over the natural waist of the wearer.
    There are no loops on the belt.
    No sizing holes should be visible.
    The buckle is constructed from a horizontally brushed metal, or metal-looking material.
    Buckle is free of decoration, greeblies or insignia.
    Buckle is rectangular, with sharp-angled edges, approximately 5 1/4" (13.3 cm) long & 2 1/2 high (6.35 cm).
     
    For level two certification (if applicable):
    Belt is made of leather.
    Buckle is made of a brushed metal such as aluminium.
    Buckle has a slight horizontal curve.
    Rank Insignia, First Order
    For 501st approval:
     
    Rank consists of one black band sewn down to the sleeve with white piped/embroidered edges at the top and bottom.
    Aurebesh text dependant on rank is to be embroidered, hand sewn, or applied via vinyl transfer to the center of the band. The text options are:
    “Tarkin” for Major
    “Kaplan” for Colonel
    Bar should be worn on the left side of arm, just above the wrist cuff seam and below the elbow.
    It should be invisibly stitched down to the sleeve in full, or adhered securely using iron-on patch adhesive. The bar should not appear loose.
    Major and Colonel costumes do not have a First Order emblem patch on their sleeves.
     
    For level two certification (if applicable):
     
    Aurebesh text is machine embroidered in white thread matching the edge piping/embroidery discussed above.
    First Order Officer Hat, Teal
    For 501st approval:
      The hat's brim is a black leather, or leather-like material protruding from the front bottom of the dome. It is slightly curved in shape and does not obscure the wearer's eyes.
    The dome fits snugly on the head when worn and should cock slightly back like a baseball cap.
    It is fitted to the head and does not cover the ears.
    There is a tall flap which runs around the back of the hat, snugly fitting around the dome at the back and at both sides.
    The flap piece is not higher than the dome of the hat, and does not overly flex outward. It is effectively vertical in respect to the rest of the hat, and when viewed from the side, it's edges are tilted slightly back at an angle.
    The First Order emblem is centered in the front of the hat's dome. It is black and silver. The silver areas should have a metallic finish.
    The hat is made of the same teal fabric as the tunic and pants, with suitable interfacing or buckram as to give it the correct shape and stiffness.
    The dome has a subtly curved seam separating the front panel from rest of the hat, with a similar seam on the back section of the dome, with one vertical seam running down the dome's back.
    For level two certification (if applicable):
    First Order insignia is a silver/nickel metal pin with a slight brushed finish and black enamel paint. It should be centered in the front of the hat's dome. It is approx 1 1/2" wide & 1 3/4" tall.
    The hat’s brim is leather. Its finish matches that seen in reference images.
    Hat features topstitching on either side of seams on the side and back panels of the hat as well as on the panels at the seam where they meet the dome, but not upon the dome itself. The front dome features top-stitching only at the lower edge where it meets the brim.
    Optional Accessories
    Items below are optional costume accessories. These items are not required for approval, but if present appear as described below.
     Officer's Blaster, First Order
    For 501st approval:
     
    ·        Based on a replica Glock 19 repeating pistol, scratch-built with added greeblies, or a modified commercial replica is acceptable.
    ·        Details to be painted black and silver per reference photos.
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    GDMorti got a reaction from Paggeldiwwer in 1st Order Majors and Colonels   
    I've been fiddling with a CRL draft building on the original proposed by Raphael on page three, supported by a lot of the text and details from the upcoming Mitaka/Lieutenant CRL to promote consistency across the First Order CRL's. I'm pretty confident in it, and I'm just waiting on tailor input and input from a few other Intense First Order Nerds (in some places both <3) before I feel comfortable dropping it in here. I want to make sure that some of the "calls" I've made are agreed upon/also spotted by other people (the more eyes on this the better) and also I want to ensure that all technical language and descriptors are accurate and easy to understand (if you're a tailor or understand How Do To An Google).
     
    Watch this space! <3
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    GDMorti got a reaction from rattleandburn in 1st Order Majors and Colonels   
    Afternoon all!

    After running this past the tailoring and First Order knowledge of @rattleandburn, @Tentayena and @DarkJedi, I think we're in a really solid place with this draft!
    I took the CRL draft provided on  page three of this thread by @Tutanchseth and used it as a base to build on. A lot of the structure and highlighted changes were  highlighted there, so I elaborated, standardised where I could, and ensured the text was as accurate and technically correct/worded correctly as I could. @rattleandburn was a huge help there for technical wording.
    While working on this draft, a few standardisation issues across all First Order officer CRL's either currently available or in the works were highlighted, but we can discuss those elsewhere.
    Without further ado:
     
    --------------------------------------------
     
    First Order Major and Colonel CRL Draft:
     
     
    Hair and facial appearance
    For 501st approval:
     
    If hair is worn short, it should not extend past the top of the collar at the back of the neck.
    If hair is long, it should be neat and worn up in a military bun. Hair should also be kept neatly tied back away from the face.
    Costumer is clean shaven.
    If the costumer is wearing makeup, it should be subtle and appear “natural”.
     
    Note: I’m adding apprarance guidelines for generic officers because I believe officers should be neat and tidy/presentable. Possible character specifics for Kaplan and Datoo have been given below for those looking to specifically portray those officers:
     
    Colonel Datoo:
    Costumer is clean shaven.
    Very short, neat, greying (???) hair. Either the costumer’s own hair or a suitable hair appliance such as a wig.
     
    Colonel Kaplan:
    Costumer is clean shaven.
    No visible hair, either through removal of costumer’s own hair or through suitable bald cap application.
     
    Tunic, First Order Major, Teal
    For 501st approval:
     
    Fabric is a medium weight suiting material exactly matching the pants.
    Fabric is a medium-dark blue with notable green tones similar to ‘peacock blue’ or specifically ‘blue teal’
    Fabric is twill, gabardine style weave is most accurate.
    Tunic is fitted to the wearer.
    Tunic is double-breasted and has a left over right closure. It ends atop the right seam as seen in reference pictures. The fastenings for this closure should be completely hidden.
    The top edge of the front closure continues downward from the left-hand side of the collar in a 45 degree angle across the upper chest where it fastens into place.
    The collar is not separated from the front panels, nor the back, by a seam. The only seam is that which follows through from the shoulder seam to the neck, separating front and back of tunic.
    Collar is draped so that it lies neatly against the neck, snugly fitting, with no noticeable bend or wrinkle. Overlap of collar portions is at a noticeable angle, forming a visible V-shape at the center throat - no rounded shape.
    Sleeves are long, and without decoration, folded cuffs or buttons. A visible seam line separates the sleeve from the straight cuff portion, which is approximately 4.5 - 5.5”.
    There are two vertical seams - straight princess seams - running the full length of the garment, on both front and rear of the tunic. These seams meet each other at the shoulder seam, approximately halfway between the neck and the sleeve seam.
    Tunic has a waist seam spanning the full circumference of the waist, hidden by the belt.
    The tunic does not feature epaulets, a center-back seam, nor a First Order insignia patch.
    There should be no visible hems or top-stitching on the sleeves, collar, tunic opening or along the bottom of the tunic.  
    For level two certification (if applicable):
    Tunic is fully lined in a suitable colour.
     
    Jodphur Trousers, First Order Major, Teal
    For 501st approval:
     
    Fabric is a light to medium weight suiting material exactly matching the tunic.
    Flared jodhpurs have sharply pointed, semi-stiff flares in the hip/thigh area, below the tunic and above the knee. The shape of the flared pants at the thighs should be slightly rectangular as per reference images. This flare should follow the flare of the bottom of the tunic. This angle should not change.
    Pockets and waist belts are acceptable, although should not be visible with the tunic on.
    Stirrups may be attached to the leg bottoms to keep material tightly tucked into the boots
    The fabric below the knee should remain fitted to the leg and tuck tightly into the boots.
                 
    Officer Boots, First Order, Black
    For 501st approval:
     
    Knee-high, black, lace-less, smooth non-textured, leather or leather-like material, with moderate to high-gloss shine.
    Rubber rain boots or wellington boots are not acceptable.
    PVC or synthetic material is allowed as long as it gives the appearance of leather.
    There are no stretch panels, buckles, snap tabs, or decoration.
    Boot seams must closely match screen-used boots.
    Boots have conservative or no heels at all. Flat soles are most accurate.
    If zippers are present, they appear on the inner part of the boot shaft only.
    The toe of the boot is rounded, not in a square, rounded, or pointed style
    The top of the boots are flat style, not Spanish, Cowboy, or Superhero.
     
    For level two certification (if applicable):
    Boots have a zipper on the inner shaft.
    Soles are flat, similar to FO TK and TI soles.
    Seams and design must match screen-used boots.         
     Gloves, First Order, Black
    For 501st approval:
     
    Gloves are constructed of a non-textured, black leather or leather-like material.
    Enclosed fingers.
    Gloves are gauntlet length, fitted, and worn underneath the sleeves.
    No buckles, straps, etc.
    Gloves may have stitching detail on the back of the palm similar to First Order Lieutenant for basic approval.
    Belt, First Order
    For 501st approval:
     
    The belt is constructed from a black, non-textured leather or a leather-like material.
    Approximately 2-2.5" in width, by 4.5-5” in length is acceptable. Belt band is not at all wider than buckle.
    Belt must fit snugly over the natural waist of the wearer.
    There are no loops on the belt.
    No sizing holes should be visible.
    The buckle is constructed from a horizontally brushed metal, or metal-looking material.
    Buckle is free of decoration, greeblies or insignia.
    Buckle is rectangular, with sharp-angled edges, approximately 5 1/4" (13.3 cm) long & 2 1/2 high (6.35 cm).
     
    For level two certification (if applicable):
    Belt is made of leather.
    Buckle is made of a brushed metal such as aluminium.
    Buckle has a slight horizontal curve.
    Rank Insignia, First Order
    For 501st approval:
     
    Rank consists of one black band sewn down to the sleeve with white piped/embroidered edges at the top and bottom.
    Aurebesh text dependant on rank is to be embroidered, hand sewn, or applied via vinyl transfer to the center of the band. The text options are:
    “Tarkin” for Major
    “Kaplan” for Colonel
    Bar should be worn on the left side of arm, just above the wrist cuff seam and below the elbow.
    It should be invisibly stitched down to the sleeve in full, or adhered securely using iron-on patch adhesive. The bar should not appear loose.
    Major and Colonel costumes do not have a First Order emblem patch on their sleeves.
     
    For level two certification (if applicable):
     
    Aurebesh text is machine embroidered in white thread matching the edge piping/embroidery discussed above.
    First Order Officer Hat, Teal
    For 501st approval:
      The hat's brim is a black leather, or leather-like material protruding from the front bottom of the dome. It is slightly curved in shape and does not obscure the wearer's eyes.
    The dome fits snugly on the head when worn and should cock slightly back like a baseball cap.
    It is fitted to the head and does not cover the ears.
    There is a tall flap which runs around the back of the hat, snugly fitting around the dome at the back and at both sides.
    The flap piece is not higher than the dome of the hat, and does not overly flex outward. It is effectively vertical in respect to the rest of the hat, and when viewed from the side, it's edges are tilted slightly back at an angle.
    The First Order emblem is centered in the front of the hat's dome. It is black and silver. The silver areas should have a metallic finish.
    The hat is made of the same teal fabric as the tunic and pants, with suitable interfacing or buckram as to give it the correct shape and stiffness.
    The dome has a subtly curved seam separating the front panel from rest of the hat, with a similar seam on the back section of the dome, with one vertical seam running down the dome's back.
    For level two certification (if applicable):
    First Order insignia is a silver/nickel metal pin with a slight brushed finish and black enamel paint. It should be centered in the front of the hat's dome. It is approx 1 1/2" wide & 1 3/4" tall.
    The hat’s brim is leather. Its finish matches that seen in reference images.
    Hat features topstitching on either side of seams on the side and back panels of the hat as well as on the panels at the seam where they meet the dome, but not upon the dome itself. The front dome features top-stitching only at the lower edge where it meets the brim.
    Optional Accessories
    Items below are optional costume accessories. These items are not required for approval, but if present appear as described below.
     Officer's Blaster, First Order
    For 501st approval:
     
    ·        Based on a replica Glock 19 repeating pistol, scratch-built with added greeblies, or a modified commercial replica is acceptable.
    ·        Details to be painted black and silver per reference photos.
  17. Like
    GDMorti got a reaction from Hask in 1st Order Majors and Colonels   
    Something we tried to do with Mitaka/Lt's CRL was to try and keep "should"'s in the draft, because at the end of the day we weren't the final say and we were looking to advice the LMO's if anything. If I had my way, the "should's" would all be definite! If a seam is there on screen, it -would- be there in a costume replication. Etc.
     
    I thought that "should"s were removed by the LMO team after a draft is accepted and they went to work on it. They're the ones after all who get the final call on what would definitely need to be on a costume, and what "can" be there/be made level 2 if it is not deemed suitable for basic. Myself and everyone who has looked at the draft prior to posting whose opinions I gathered on it, feel that the basic level proposed is entirely plausible, possible, and can be backed up by reference or technical know-how and explanation.
     
    However! I'm happy to go through and remove all of the "should"s in areas that we feel are "definite"s if this would help the LMO team? I thought that the should's were useful but if thats not the case I'm happy to amend.
  18. Like
    GDMorti got a reaction from sundancekat in 1st Order Majors and Colonels   
    Works for me! I've amended the draft and added it to the list of common things this particular uniform does  NOT have, alongside epaulettes and a bicep patch.
  19. Like
    GDMorti got a reaction from sundancekat in 1st Order Majors and Colonels   
    From what we've seen, it does not, no. The rear seams are mentioned as two traditional vertical princess seams, I would have assumed that it would be implied that these were the only seams, however yeah it is a change from the norm since Lt and Gen have the center seam. It could be worth stipulating it alongside the lack of epaulettes and bicep First Order insignia patch that its yet another thing missing from "the norm" so far?

    EDIT: At the very least, despite lack of rear references, it would make absolutely no sense whatsoever for there to be a rear center seam or vent! This tunic style is super reminiscent of Imperial uniforms, the closest I've seen amongst the rest of the First Order uniforms!
  20. Like
    GDMorti reacted to rattleandburn in 1st Order Majors and Colonels   
    Seconding lack of center back seam. We currently only have 3/4 back view sort of reference that doesn't show if there is one; given the rest of the structure of the tunic I find it highly unlikely that there would be. (We do, however, have back view of one of the chibi Rose figures and she does NOT have a center back seam)

    Stipulating that its missing might prevent people from making a big mistake while trying to keep in line with other FO uniforms.
  21. Thanks
    GDMorti got a reaction from Tutanchseth in 1st Order Majors and Colonels   
    Afternoon all!

    After running this past the tailoring and First Order knowledge of @rattleandburn, @Tentayena and @DarkJedi, I think we're in a really solid place with this draft!
    I took the CRL draft provided on  page three of this thread by @Tutanchseth and used it as a base to build on. A lot of the structure and highlighted changes were  highlighted there, so I elaborated, standardised where I could, and ensured the text was as accurate and technically correct/worded correctly as I could. @rattleandburn was a huge help there for technical wording.
    While working on this draft, a few standardisation issues across all First Order officer CRL's either currently available or in the works were highlighted, but we can discuss those elsewhere.
    Without further ado:
     
    --------------------------------------------
     
    First Order Major and Colonel CRL Draft:
     
     
    Hair and facial appearance
    For 501st approval:
     
    If hair is worn short, it should not extend past the top of the collar at the back of the neck.
    If hair is long, it should be neat and worn up in a military bun. Hair should also be kept neatly tied back away from the face.
    Costumer is clean shaven.
    If the costumer is wearing makeup, it should be subtle and appear “natural”.
     
    Note: I’m adding apprarance guidelines for generic officers because I believe officers should be neat and tidy/presentable. Possible character specifics for Kaplan and Datoo have been given below for those looking to specifically portray those officers:
     
    Colonel Datoo:
    Costumer is clean shaven.
    Very short, neat, greying (???) hair. Either the costumer’s own hair or a suitable hair appliance such as a wig.
     
    Colonel Kaplan:
    Costumer is clean shaven.
    No visible hair, either through removal of costumer’s own hair or through suitable bald cap application.
     
    Tunic, First Order Major, Teal
    For 501st approval:
     
    Fabric is a medium weight suiting material exactly matching the pants.
    Fabric is a medium-dark blue with notable green tones similar to ‘peacock blue’ or specifically ‘blue teal’
    Fabric is twill, gabardine style weave is most accurate.
    Tunic is fitted to the wearer.
    Tunic is double-breasted and has a left over right closure. It ends atop the right seam as seen in reference pictures. The fastenings for this closure should be completely hidden.
    The top edge of the front closure continues downward from the left-hand side of the collar in a 45 degree angle across the upper chest where it fastens into place.
    The collar is not separated from the front panels, nor the back, by a seam. The only seam is that which follows through from the shoulder seam to the neck, separating front and back of tunic.
    Collar is draped so that it lies neatly against the neck, snugly fitting, with no noticeable bend or wrinkle. Overlap of collar portions is at a noticeable angle, forming a visible V-shape at the center throat - no rounded shape.
    Sleeves are long, and without decoration, folded cuffs or buttons. A visible seam line separates the sleeve from the straight cuff portion, which is approximately 4.5 - 5.5”.
    There are two vertical seams - straight princess seams - running the full length of the garment, on both front and rear of the tunic. These seams meet each other at the shoulder seam, approximately halfway between the neck and the sleeve seam.
    Tunic has a waist seam spanning the full circumference of the waist, hidden by the belt.
    The tunic does not feature epaulets, a center-back seam, nor a First Order insignia patch.
    There should be no visible hems or top-stitching on the sleeves, collar, tunic opening or along the bottom of the tunic.  
    For level two certification (if applicable):
    Tunic is fully lined in a suitable colour.
     
    Jodphur Trousers, First Order Major, Teal
    For 501st approval:
     
    Fabric is a light to medium weight suiting material exactly matching the tunic.
    Flared jodhpurs have sharply pointed, semi-stiff flares in the hip/thigh area, below the tunic and above the knee. The shape of the flared pants at the thighs should be slightly rectangular as per reference images. This flare should follow the flare of the bottom of the tunic. This angle should not change.
    Pockets and waist belts are acceptable, although should not be visible with the tunic on.
    Stirrups may be attached to the leg bottoms to keep material tightly tucked into the boots
    The fabric below the knee should remain fitted to the leg and tuck tightly into the boots.
                 
    Officer Boots, First Order, Black
    For 501st approval:
     
    Knee-high, black, lace-less, smooth non-textured, leather or leather-like material, with moderate to high-gloss shine.
    Rubber rain boots or wellington boots are not acceptable.
    PVC or synthetic material is allowed as long as it gives the appearance of leather.
    There are no stretch panels, buckles, snap tabs, or decoration.
    Boot seams must closely match screen-used boots.
    Boots have conservative or no heels at all. Flat soles are most accurate.
    If zippers are present, they appear on the inner part of the boot shaft only.
    The toe of the boot is rounded, not in a square, rounded, or pointed style
    The top of the boots are flat style, not Spanish, Cowboy, or Superhero.
     
    For level two certification (if applicable):
    Boots have a zipper on the inner shaft.
    Soles are flat, similar to FO TK and TI soles.
    Seams and design must match screen-used boots.         
     Gloves, First Order, Black
    For 501st approval:
     
    Gloves are constructed of a non-textured, black leather or leather-like material.
    Enclosed fingers.
    Gloves are gauntlet length, fitted, and worn underneath the sleeves.
    No buckles, straps, etc.
    Gloves may have stitching detail on the back of the palm similar to First Order Lieutenant for basic approval.
    Belt, First Order
    For 501st approval:
     
    The belt is constructed from a black, non-textured leather or a leather-like material.
    Approximately 2-2.5" in width, by 4.5-5” in length is acceptable. Belt band is not at all wider than buckle.
    Belt must fit snugly over the natural waist of the wearer.
    There are no loops on the belt.
    No sizing holes should be visible.
    The buckle is constructed from a horizontally brushed metal, or metal-looking material.
    Buckle is free of decoration, greeblies or insignia.
    Buckle is rectangular, with sharp-angled edges, approximately 5 1/4" (13.3 cm) long & 2 1/2 high (6.35 cm).
     
    For level two certification (if applicable):
    Belt is made of leather.
    Buckle is made of a brushed metal such as aluminium.
    Buckle has a slight horizontal curve.
    Rank Insignia, First Order
    For 501st approval:
     
    Rank consists of one black band sewn down to the sleeve with white piped/embroidered edges at the top and bottom.
    Aurebesh text dependant on rank is to be embroidered, hand sewn, or applied via vinyl transfer to the center of the band. The text options are:
    “Tarkin” for Major
    “Kaplan” for Colonel
    Bar should be worn on the left side of arm, just above the wrist cuff seam and below the elbow.
    It should be invisibly stitched down to the sleeve in full, or adhered securely using iron-on patch adhesive. The bar should not appear loose.
    Major and Colonel costumes do not have a First Order emblem patch on their sleeves.
     
    For level two certification (if applicable):
     
    Aurebesh text is machine embroidered in white thread matching the edge piping/embroidery discussed above.
    First Order Officer Hat, Teal
    For 501st approval:
      The hat's brim is a black leather, or leather-like material protruding from the front bottom of the dome. It is slightly curved in shape and does not obscure the wearer's eyes.
    The dome fits snugly on the head when worn and should cock slightly back like a baseball cap.
    It is fitted to the head and does not cover the ears.
    There is a tall flap which runs around the back of the hat, snugly fitting around the dome at the back and at both sides.
    The flap piece is not higher than the dome of the hat, and does not overly flex outward. It is effectively vertical in respect to the rest of the hat, and when viewed from the side, it's edges are tilted slightly back at an angle.
    The First Order emblem is centered in the front of the hat's dome. It is black and silver. The silver areas should have a metallic finish.
    The hat is made of the same teal fabric as the tunic and pants, with suitable interfacing or buckram as to give it the correct shape and stiffness.
    The dome has a subtly curved seam separating the front panel from rest of the hat, with a similar seam on the back section of the dome, with one vertical seam running down the dome's back.
    For level two certification (if applicable):
    First Order insignia is a silver/nickel metal pin with a slight brushed finish and black enamel paint. It should be centered in the front of the hat's dome. It is approx 1 1/2" wide & 1 3/4" tall.
    The hat’s brim is leather. Its finish matches that seen in reference images.
    Hat features topstitching on either side of seams on the side and back panels of the hat as well as on the panels at the seam where they meet the dome, but not upon the dome itself. The front dome features top-stitching only at the lower edge where it meets the brim.
    Optional Accessories
    Items below are optional costume accessories. These items are not required for approval, but if present appear as described below.
     Officer's Blaster, First Order
    For 501st approval:
     
    ·        Based on a replica Glock 19 repeating pistol, scratch-built with added greeblies, or a modified commercial replica is acceptable.
    ·        Details to be painted black and silver per reference photos.
  22. Like
    GDMorti got a reaction from rattleandburn in 1st Order Majors and Colonels   
    From what we've seen, it does not, no. The rear seams are mentioned as two traditional vertical princess seams, I would have assumed that it would be implied that these were the only seams, however yeah it is a change from the norm since Lt and Gen have the center seam. It could be worth stipulating it alongside the lack of epaulettes and bicep First Order insignia patch that its yet another thing missing from "the norm" so far?

    EDIT: At the very least, despite lack of rear references, it would make absolutely no sense whatsoever for there to be a rear center seam or vent! This tunic style is super reminiscent of Imperial uniforms, the closest I've seen amongst the rest of the First Order uniforms!
  23. Like
    GDMorti reacted to sundancekat in 1st Order Majors and Colonels   
    Question about the tunic...does it have a center back vent like the General (and I assume Lieutenant) tunic? I'm assuming it doesn't, since the tunic shouldn't have a CB seam with a collar like that. Should we explicitly state no CB seam or CB vent? 
  24. Like
    GDMorti got a reaction from sundancekat in 1st Order Majors and Colonels   
    Afternoon all!

    After running this past the tailoring and First Order knowledge of @rattleandburn, @Tentayena and @DarkJedi, I think we're in a really solid place with this draft!
    I took the CRL draft provided on  page three of this thread by @Tutanchseth and used it as a base to build on. A lot of the structure and highlighted changes were  highlighted there, so I elaborated, standardised where I could, and ensured the text was as accurate and technically correct/worded correctly as I could. @rattleandburn was a huge help there for technical wording.
    While working on this draft, a few standardisation issues across all First Order officer CRL's either currently available or in the works were highlighted, but we can discuss those elsewhere.
    Without further ado:
     
    --------------------------------------------
     
    First Order Major and Colonel CRL Draft:
     
     
    Hair and facial appearance
    For 501st approval:
     
    If hair is worn short, it should not extend past the top of the collar at the back of the neck.
    If hair is long, it should be neat and worn up in a military bun. Hair should also be kept neatly tied back away from the face.
    Costumer is clean shaven.
    If the costumer is wearing makeup, it should be subtle and appear “natural”.
     
    Note: I’m adding apprarance guidelines for generic officers because I believe officers should be neat and tidy/presentable. Possible character specifics for Kaplan and Datoo have been given below for those looking to specifically portray those officers:
     
    Colonel Datoo:
    Costumer is clean shaven.
    Very short, neat, greying (???) hair. Either the costumer’s own hair or a suitable hair appliance such as a wig.
     
    Colonel Kaplan:
    Costumer is clean shaven.
    No visible hair, either through removal of costumer’s own hair or through suitable bald cap application.
     
    Tunic, First Order Major, Teal
    For 501st approval:
     
    Fabric is a medium weight suiting material exactly matching the pants.
    Fabric is a medium-dark blue with notable green tones similar to ‘peacock blue’ or specifically ‘blue teal’
    Fabric is twill, gabardine style weave is most accurate.
    Tunic is fitted to the wearer.
    Tunic is double-breasted and has a left over right closure. It ends atop the right seam as seen in reference pictures. The fastenings for this closure should be completely hidden.
    The top edge of the front closure continues downward from the left-hand side of the collar in a 45 degree angle across the upper chest where it fastens into place.
    The collar is not separated from the front panels, nor the back, by a seam. The only seam is that which follows through from the shoulder seam to the neck, separating front and back of tunic.
    Collar is draped so that it lies neatly against the neck, snugly fitting, with no noticeable bend or wrinkle. Overlap of collar portions is at a noticeable angle, forming a visible V-shape at the center throat - no rounded shape.
    Sleeves are long, and without decoration, folded cuffs or buttons. A visible seam line separates the sleeve from the straight cuff portion, which is approximately 4.5 - 5.5”.
    There are two vertical seams - straight princess seams - running the full length of the garment, on both front and rear of the tunic. These seams meet each other at the shoulder seam, approximately halfway between the neck and the sleeve seam.
    Tunic has a waist seam spanning the full circumference of the waist, hidden by the belt.
    The tunic does not feature epaulets, a center-back seam, nor a First Order insignia patch.
    There should be no visible hems or top-stitching on the sleeves, collar, tunic opening or along the bottom of the tunic.  
    For level two certification (if applicable):
    Tunic is fully lined in a suitable colour.
     
    Jodphur Trousers, First Order Major, Teal
    For 501st approval:
     
    Fabric is a light to medium weight suiting material exactly matching the tunic.
    Flared jodhpurs have sharply pointed, semi-stiff flares in the hip/thigh area, below the tunic and above the knee. The shape of the flared pants at the thighs should be slightly rectangular as per reference images. This flare should follow the flare of the bottom of the tunic. This angle should not change.
    Pockets and waist belts are acceptable, although should not be visible with the tunic on.
    Stirrups may be attached to the leg bottoms to keep material tightly tucked into the boots
    The fabric below the knee should remain fitted to the leg and tuck tightly into the boots.
                 
    Officer Boots, First Order, Black
    For 501st approval:
     
    Knee-high, black, lace-less, smooth non-textured, leather or leather-like material, with moderate to high-gloss shine.
    Rubber rain boots or wellington boots are not acceptable.
    PVC or synthetic material is allowed as long as it gives the appearance of leather.
    There are no stretch panels, buckles, snap tabs, or decoration.
    Boot seams must closely match screen-used boots.
    Boots have conservative or no heels at all. Flat soles are most accurate.
    If zippers are present, they appear on the inner part of the boot shaft only.
    The toe of the boot is rounded, not in a square, rounded, or pointed style
    The top of the boots are flat style, not Spanish, Cowboy, or Superhero.
     
    For level two certification (if applicable):
    Boots have a zipper on the inner shaft.
    Soles are flat, similar to FO TK and TI soles.
    Seams and design must match screen-used boots.         
     Gloves, First Order, Black
    For 501st approval:
     
    Gloves are constructed of a non-textured, black leather or leather-like material.
    Enclosed fingers.
    Gloves are gauntlet length, fitted, and worn underneath the sleeves.
    No buckles, straps, etc.
    Gloves may have stitching detail on the back of the palm similar to First Order Lieutenant for basic approval.
    Belt, First Order
    For 501st approval:
     
    The belt is constructed from a black, non-textured leather or a leather-like material.
    Approximately 2-2.5" in width, by 4.5-5” in length is acceptable. Belt band is not at all wider than buckle.
    Belt must fit snugly over the natural waist of the wearer.
    There are no loops on the belt.
    No sizing holes should be visible.
    The buckle is constructed from a horizontally brushed metal, or metal-looking material.
    Buckle is free of decoration, greeblies or insignia.
    Buckle is rectangular, with sharp-angled edges, approximately 5 1/4" (13.3 cm) long & 2 1/2 high (6.35 cm).
     
    For level two certification (if applicable):
    Belt is made of leather.
    Buckle is made of a brushed metal such as aluminium.
    Buckle has a slight horizontal curve.
    Rank Insignia, First Order
    For 501st approval:
     
    Rank consists of one black band sewn down to the sleeve with white piped/embroidered edges at the top and bottom.
    Aurebesh text dependant on rank is to be embroidered, hand sewn, or applied via vinyl transfer to the center of the band. The text options are:
    “Tarkin” for Major
    “Kaplan” for Colonel
    Bar should be worn on the left side of arm, just above the wrist cuff seam and below the elbow.
    It should be invisibly stitched down to the sleeve in full, or adhered securely using iron-on patch adhesive. The bar should not appear loose.
    Major and Colonel costumes do not have a First Order emblem patch on their sleeves.
     
    For level two certification (if applicable):
     
    Aurebesh text is machine embroidered in white thread matching the edge piping/embroidery discussed above.
    First Order Officer Hat, Teal
    For 501st approval:
      The hat's brim is a black leather, or leather-like material protruding from the front bottom of the dome. It is slightly curved in shape and does not obscure the wearer's eyes.
    The dome fits snugly on the head when worn and should cock slightly back like a baseball cap.
    It is fitted to the head and does not cover the ears.
    There is a tall flap which runs around the back of the hat, snugly fitting around the dome at the back and at both sides.
    The flap piece is not higher than the dome of the hat, and does not overly flex outward. It is effectively vertical in respect to the rest of the hat, and when viewed from the side, it's edges are tilted slightly back at an angle.
    The First Order emblem is centered in the front of the hat's dome. It is black and silver. The silver areas should have a metallic finish.
    The hat is made of the same teal fabric as the tunic and pants, with suitable interfacing or buckram as to give it the correct shape and stiffness.
    The dome has a subtly curved seam separating the front panel from rest of the hat, with a similar seam on the back section of the dome, with one vertical seam running down the dome's back.
    For level two certification (if applicable):
    First Order insignia is a silver/nickel metal pin with a slight brushed finish and black enamel paint. It should be centered in the front of the hat's dome. It is approx 1 1/2" wide & 1 3/4" tall.
    The hat’s brim is leather. Its finish matches that seen in reference images.
    Hat features topstitching on either side of seams on the side and back panels of the hat as well as on the panels at the seam where they meet the dome, but not upon the dome itself. The front dome features top-stitching only at the lower edge where it meets the brim.
    Optional Accessories
    Items below are optional costume accessories. These items are not required for approval, but if present appear as described below.
     Officer's Blaster, First Order
    For 501st approval:
     
    ·        Based on a replica Glock 19 repeating pistol, scratch-built with added greeblies, or a modified commercial replica is acceptable.
    ·        Details to be painted black and silver per reference photos.
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    Afternoon all!

    After running this past the tailoring and First Order knowledge of @rattleandburn, @Tentayena and @DarkJedi, I think we're in a really solid place with this draft!
    I took the CRL draft provided on  page three of this thread by @Tutanchseth and used it as a base to build on. A lot of the structure and highlighted changes were  highlighted there, so I elaborated, standardised where I could, and ensured the text was as accurate and technically correct/worded correctly as I could. @rattleandburn was a huge help there for technical wording.
    While working on this draft, a few standardisation issues across all First Order officer CRL's either currently available or in the works were highlighted, but we can discuss those elsewhere.
    Without further ado:
     
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    First Order Major and Colonel CRL Draft:
     
     
    Hair and facial appearance
    For 501st approval:
     
    If hair is worn short, it should not extend past the top of the collar at the back of the neck.
    If hair is long, it should be neat and worn up in a military bun. Hair should also be kept neatly tied back away from the face.
    Costumer is clean shaven.
    If the costumer is wearing makeup, it should be subtle and appear “natural”.
     
    Note: I’m adding apprarance guidelines for generic officers because I believe officers should be neat and tidy/presentable. Possible character specifics for Kaplan and Datoo have been given below for those looking to specifically portray those officers:
     
    Colonel Datoo:
    Costumer is clean shaven.
    Very short, neat, greying (???) hair. Either the costumer’s own hair or a suitable hair appliance such as a wig.
     
    Colonel Kaplan:
    Costumer is clean shaven.
    No visible hair, either through removal of costumer’s own hair or through suitable bald cap application.
     
    Tunic, First Order Major, Teal
    For 501st approval:
     
    Fabric is a medium weight suiting material exactly matching the pants.
    Fabric is a medium-dark blue with notable green tones similar to ‘peacock blue’ or specifically ‘blue teal’
    Fabric is twill, gabardine style weave is most accurate.
    Tunic is fitted to the wearer.
    Tunic is double-breasted and has a left over right closure. It ends atop the right seam as seen in reference pictures. The fastenings for this closure should be completely hidden.
    The top edge of the front closure continues downward from the left-hand side of the collar in a 45 degree angle across the upper chest where it fastens into place.
    The collar is not separated from the front panels, nor the back, by a seam. The only seam is that which follows through from the shoulder seam to the neck, separating front and back of tunic.
    Collar is draped so that it lies neatly against the neck, snugly fitting, with no noticeable bend or wrinkle. Overlap of collar portions is at a noticeable angle, forming a visible V-shape at the center throat - no rounded shape.
    Sleeves are long, and without decoration, folded cuffs or buttons. A visible seam line separates the sleeve from the straight cuff portion, which is approximately 4.5 - 5.5”.
    There are two vertical seams - straight princess seams - running the full length of the garment, on both front and rear of the tunic. These seams meet each other at the shoulder seam, approximately halfway between the neck and the sleeve seam.
    Tunic has a waist seam spanning the full circumference of the waist, hidden by the belt.
    The tunic does not feature epaulets, a center-back seam, nor a First Order insignia patch.
    There should be no visible hems or top-stitching on the sleeves, collar, tunic opening or along the bottom of the tunic.  
    For level two certification (if applicable):
    Tunic is fully lined in a suitable colour.
     
    Jodphur Trousers, First Order Major, Teal
    For 501st approval:
     
    Fabric is a light to medium weight suiting material exactly matching the tunic.
    Flared jodhpurs have sharply pointed, semi-stiff flares in the hip/thigh area, below the tunic and above the knee. The shape of the flared pants at the thighs should be slightly rectangular as per reference images. This flare should follow the flare of the bottom of the tunic. This angle should not change.
    Pockets and waist belts are acceptable, although should not be visible with the tunic on.
    Stirrups may be attached to the leg bottoms to keep material tightly tucked into the boots
    The fabric below the knee should remain fitted to the leg and tuck tightly into the boots.
                 
    Officer Boots, First Order, Black
    For 501st approval:
     
    Knee-high, black, lace-less, smooth non-textured, leather or leather-like material, with moderate to high-gloss shine.
    Rubber rain boots or wellington boots are not acceptable.
    PVC or synthetic material is allowed as long as it gives the appearance of leather.
    There are no stretch panels, buckles, snap tabs, or decoration.
    Boot seams must closely match screen-used boots.
    Boots have conservative or no heels at all. Flat soles are most accurate.
    If zippers are present, they appear on the inner part of the boot shaft only.
    The toe of the boot is rounded, not in a square, rounded, or pointed style
    The top of the boots are flat style, not Spanish, Cowboy, or Superhero.
     
    For level two certification (if applicable):
    Boots have a zipper on the inner shaft.
    Soles are flat, similar to FO TK and TI soles.
    Seams and design must match screen-used boots.         
     Gloves, First Order, Black
    For 501st approval:
     
    Gloves are constructed of a non-textured, black leather or leather-like material.
    Enclosed fingers.
    Gloves are gauntlet length, fitted, and worn underneath the sleeves.
    No buckles, straps, etc.
    Gloves may have stitching detail on the back of the palm similar to First Order Lieutenant for basic approval.
    Belt, First Order
    For 501st approval:
     
    The belt is constructed from a black, non-textured leather or a leather-like material.
    Approximately 2-2.5" in width, by 4.5-5” in length is acceptable. Belt band is not at all wider than buckle.
    Belt must fit snugly over the natural waist of the wearer.
    There are no loops on the belt.
    No sizing holes should be visible.
    The buckle is constructed from a horizontally brushed metal, or metal-looking material.
    Buckle is free of decoration, greeblies or insignia.
    Buckle is rectangular, with sharp-angled edges, approximately 5 1/4" (13.3 cm) long & 2 1/2 high (6.35 cm).
     
    For level two certification (if applicable):
    Belt is made of leather.
    Buckle is made of a brushed metal such as aluminium.
    Buckle has a slight horizontal curve.
    Rank Insignia, First Order
    For 501st approval:
     
    Rank consists of one black band sewn down to the sleeve with white piped/embroidered edges at the top and bottom.
    Aurebesh text dependant on rank is to be embroidered, hand sewn, or applied via vinyl transfer to the center of the band. The text options are:
    “Tarkin” for Major
    “Kaplan” for Colonel
    Bar should be worn on the left side of arm, just above the wrist cuff seam and below the elbow.
    It should be invisibly stitched down to the sleeve in full, or adhered securely using iron-on patch adhesive. The bar should not appear loose.
    Major and Colonel costumes do not have a First Order emblem patch on their sleeves.
     
    For level two certification (if applicable):
     
    Aurebesh text is machine embroidered in white thread matching the edge piping/embroidery discussed above.
    First Order Officer Hat, Teal
    For 501st approval:
      The hat's brim is a black leather, or leather-like material protruding from the front bottom of the dome. It is slightly curved in shape and does not obscure the wearer's eyes.
    The dome fits snugly on the head when worn and should cock slightly back like a baseball cap.
    It is fitted to the head and does not cover the ears.
    There is a tall flap which runs around the back of the hat, snugly fitting around the dome at the back and at both sides.
    The flap piece is not higher than the dome of the hat, and does not overly flex outward. It is effectively vertical in respect to the rest of the hat, and when viewed from the side, it's edges are tilted slightly back at an angle.
    The First Order emblem is centered in the front of the hat's dome. It is black and silver. The silver areas should have a metallic finish.
    The hat is made of the same teal fabric as the tunic and pants, with suitable interfacing or buckram as to give it the correct shape and stiffness.
    The dome has a subtly curved seam separating the front panel from rest of the hat, with a similar seam on the back section of the dome, with one vertical seam running down the dome's back.
    For level two certification (if applicable):
    First Order insignia is a silver/nickel metal pin with a slight brushed finish and black enamel paint. It should be centered in the front of the hat's dome. It is approx 1 1/2" wide & 1 3/4" tall.
    The hat’s brim is leather. Its finish matches that seen in reference images.
    Hat features topstitching on either side of seams on the side and back panels of the hat as well as on the panels at the seam where they meet the dome, but not upon the dome itself. The front dome features top-stitching only at the lower edge where it meets the brim.
    Optional Accessories
    Items below are optional costume accessories. These items are not required for approval, but if present appear as described below.
     Officer's Blaster, First Order
    For 501st approval:
     
    ·        Based on a replica Glock 19 repeating pistol, scratch-built with added greeblies, or a modified commercial replica is acceptable.
    ·        Details to be painted black and silver per reference photos.
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