EllenStreichfuss

Can somebody please explain to me why we are the only detachment trying to get all cartoon/animated costumes looking cartoony in real life while costumes like Hondo, the Grand Inquisitor, Seventh Sister and so on are made to look realistic? 
 
Why? 
 
 

Can somebody please explain to me why we are the only detachment trying to get all cartoon/animated costumes looking cartoony in real life while costumes like Hondo, the Grand Inquisitor, Seventh Sister and so on are made to look realistic? 
 
Why? 
 
 

Eric, the other head LMO of your team made this thread and was an LMO when they did.  Our assigned LMO who is a trained tailor and active for years in this detachment was turned onto this thread at the start of their term this year.

Can you give us a number of how many LMOs must be engaged in order to meet this threshold you are talking about?  You know as well as I do that you have released costumes in other detachments under your administration this term with less references than this.  You know as well as I do that there is not likely to be any more references released from this particular costume.  And even if there was, the applicant and this detachment are prepared to quickly adapt the CRL to meet new information that would develop.

Since I joined the legion in 2007 I have been told that a costume is made first then brought to the LMOs to be turned into a CRL.  Many of our CRLs in this detachment were created outside of it: Grand Moff Tarkin, General Hux, etc.  They were made outside of the detachment and without LMO oversight and no involvement from the staff and then turned into a CRL.  If you want CRLs to be started with LMO involvement before a stitch is sewed and a mold is sculpted, this is a VERY different method that I have ever seen.  

I am still also concerned with your description of your LMOs holding a vote to decide issues when the fate of our costumes may be decided by the decision of someone not engaged or knowledgeable about the costume, the character, the references, sewing, sculpting, machining or anything connected to it.  Not that I expect your LMOs to know all about everything, but in the past those who specialized had more say than those that didn't.  
 
I would like for you to show your procedures for how things are determined and how to move forward.  At the moment they are not very transparent or navigable for our members. And until that happens, I think it will discourage new costume creation.

CLRs are updated all the time, they evolve and change as new information comes to light. This should be no different. 
By the LMOs logic there could potentially never be a CRL for this costume. 
OR… Some day in the future the CRL gets a minor update with a new seam or something on the back. Hardly the end of the world!

Following. My personal choice would be a variation tab. Ysanne Isard's ISB tunic is listed within the ISB officer crl, for example. 

Looks good so far

Here's the color comparison. Upper left is the cavalry twill, upper right is my own fabric used for this costume, dyed to match the color of the first. Second row is unaltered white twill. 

I have to correct this! Looks pretty white here but I actually dyed it to match my cream colored cavalry twill (from the well known fabric run). I will provide a pic to prove this, so stay tuned  

I have to correct this! Looks pretty white here but I actually dyed it to match my cream colored cavalry twill (from the well known fabric run). I will provide a pic to prove this, so stay tuned  

-> I know that I'm not the first one to propose this costume as a CRL
-> I know that there is not much reference material available BUT... even Armand Isard has gotten a CRL entry and his references are as poor as these are. Besides, both Isard's reference pictures vary very much due to the drawing style. 
 
So here are the references:
 


 
Which is not much. I know. 
From this references, I made these costume parts:
 









 
Will get pictures of me wearing the costume asap 

Hi there, I'd like to make these requested changes:
 
Tunic II, Red
For 501st approval:

• Tunic II, replaces Tunic, listed above.
• Similar to the Tunic, with the following differences.
• Standing collar, open, no modesty panel.
• Front opening lies hidden beneath a bib or flap.
• Bib/flap is closed at one side with snap buttons.
• Bib/flap lower section hangs loose, and is roughly 4 cm longer than  
the rest of the Tunic II.
• No code cylinder pockets.
• No parting seams in front.
• (2) Darts point up from the waist seam, hidden under the bib/flap.
 
Based on her portrait from the New Essential Guide to Characters

 
I added a front opening under the flap/bib part to make the jacket wearable. This seemed the most suble way to me to get an opening in without altering much of the design.
 

 
For more pics, please visit this gallery  https://www.facebook.com/pg/dreiraben/photos/?tab=album&album_id=1545441548857516
 
 

That was also my first thought. Naturally members aid each other to get in costume, but all imperial/FO uniforms habe a funcional design. A tunic with a zipper in the back is the exact opposite of being functional.

Then there must also be an opening in the back, or you won't get this on. Zipper in the back? ._.

Hi there, I'd like to make these requested changes:
 
Tunic II, Red
For 501st approval:

• Tunic II, replaces Tunic, listed above.
• Similar to the Tunic, with the following differences.
• Standing collar, open, no modesty panel.
• Front opening lies hidden beneath a bib or flap.
• Bib/flap is closed at one side with snap buttons.
• Bib/flap lower section hangs loose, and is roughly 4 cm longer than  
the rest of the Tunic II.
• No code cylinder pockets.
• No parting seams in front.
• (2) Darts point up from the waist seam, hidden under the bib/flap.
 
Based on her portrait from the New Essential Guide to Characters

 
I added a front opening under the flap/bib part to make the jacket wearable. This seemed the most suble way to me to get an opening in without altering much of the design.
 

 
For more pics, please visit this gallery  https://www.facebook.com/pg/dreiraben/photos/?tab=album&album_id=1545441548857516
 
 

Hi there, I'd like to make these requested changes:
 
Tunic II, Red
For 501st approval:

• Tunic II, replaces Tunic, listed above.
• Similar to the Tunic, with the following differences.
• Standing collar, open, no modesty panel.
• Front opening lies hidden beneath a bib or flap.
• Bib/flap is closed at one side with snap buttons.
• Bib/flap lower section hangs loose, and is roughly 4 cm longer than  
the rest of the Tunic II.
• No code cylinder pockets.
• No parting seams in front.
• (2) Darts point up from the waist seam, hidden under the bib/flap.
 
Based on her portrait from the New Essential Guide to Characters

 
I added a front opening under the flap/bib part to make the jacket wearable. This seemed the most suble way to me to get an opening in without altering much of the design.
 

 
For more pics, please visit this gallery  https://www.facebook.com/pg/dreiraben/photos/?tab=album&album_id=1545441548857516
 
 

Hi there, I'd like to make these requested changes:
 
Tunic II, Red
For 501st approval:

• Tunic II, replaces Tunic, listed above.
• Similar to the Tunic, with the following differences.
• Standing collar, open, no modesty panel.
• Front opening lies hidden beneath a bib or flap.
• Bib/flap is closed at one side with snap buttons.
• Bib/flap lower section hangs loose, and is roughly 4 cm longer than  
the rest of the Tunic II.
• No code cylinder pockets.
• No parting seams in front.
• (2) Darts point up from the waist seam, hidden under the bib/flap.
 
Based on her portrait from the New Essential Guide to Characters

 
I added a front opening under the flap/bib part to make the jacket wearable. This seemed the most suble way to me to get an opening in without altering much of the design.
 

 
For more pics, please visit this gallery  https://www.facebook.com/pg/dreiraben/photos/?tab=album&album_id=1545441548857516
 
 

Hi there, I'd like to make these requested changes:
 
Tunic II, Red
For 501st approval:

• Tunic II, replaces Tunic, listed above.
• Similar to the Tunic, with the following differences.
• Standing collar, open, no modesty panel.
• Front opening lies hidden beneath a bib or flap.
• Bib/flap is closed at one side with snap buttons.
• Bib/flap lower section hangs loose, and is roughly 4 cm longer than  
the rest of the Tunic II.
• No code cylinder pockets.
• No parting seams in front.
• (2) Darts point up from the waist seam, hidden under the bib/flap.
 
Based on her portrait from the New Essential Guide to Characters

 
I added a front opening under the flap/bib part to make the jacket wearable. This seemed the most suble way to me to get an opening in without altering much of the design.
 

 
For more pics, please visit this gallery  https://www.facebook.com/pg/dreiraben/photos/?tab=album&album_id=1545441548857516
 
 

Hi there, I'd like to make these requested changes:
 
Tunic II, Red
For 501st approval:

• Tunic II, replaces Tunic, listed above.
• Similar to the Tunic, with the following differences.
• Standing collar, open, no modesty panel.
• Front opening lies hidden beneath a bib or flap.
• Bib/flap is closed at one side with snap buttons.
• Bib/flap lower section hangs loose, and is roughly 4 cm longer than  
the rest of the Tunic II.
• No code cylinder pockets.
• No parting seams in front.
• (2) Darts point up from the waist seam, hidden under the bib/flap.
 
Based on her portrait from the New Essential Guide to Characters

 
I added a front opening under the flap/bib part to make the jacket wearable. This seemed the most suble way to me to get an opening in without altering much of the design.
 

 
For more pics, please visit this gallery  https://www.facebook.com/pg/dreiraben/photos/?tab=album&album_id=1545441548857516