TwistedZen

Some things should go without saying, but we live in an age where we do have to say things. I will cross post this in the Officer's Mess too.
 
At no times will this detachment be a home or accepting to people that are friendly to or espouse the ideas behind fascism, Nazism or any totalitarian ideology. We dress up as fictional space bad guys. Conflating any of the above with doing that is not only morally wrong, it puts at risk what we do here in this detachment and the legion as a whole. We will not allow such a risk.
 
I have spoken to members who have belonged to reenacting groups that have had those ideologies come into them. That will not be permitted here, not under this administration. And if that day ever comes that it would be allowed, I would hope you would join me in finding another hobby.
 
There will be no litmus tests for members. If you are a reenactor, I hope you enjoy doing it and I hope you keep the ideology out of it. There is no conversation over re-enacting that you cannot take private. And if you are an open adopter of the ideologies listed above, no one wants to hear it...ever. If you see something in violation of this, please contact the staff and we will deal with it promptly.

imperial cloning scientist by Robert Barker, on Flickr

This thread is for the Imperial Cloning scientist.  We have seen this uniform twice with minor modifications.  It was seen in season 1 and 2 of The Mandalorian worn by Doctor Pershing, an Imperial Cloning Scientist.  It was seen again in the season finale of the first season of the animated series The Bad Batch.  The character greets Nal Se, a Kamino cloning scientist at the Mount Tantiss facility on Wayland, a facility that had Spartii Cloning Cylinders from the Timothy Zahn book "Heir to the Empire".
 
Research, reference photos and build progress should be posted here until such time that a costume is created and a CRL can be submitted.

Andrew, this kind of reply to a post is why members get banned from posting on Forums. If you have a personal beef with a member, then take it somewhere else. The Forums are no place for bickering or personal attacks.

I predate the CRLs.  I’m starting my 18th year in the Legion in January.  
We made the best decisions with what we could see.  
When I see the picture of this outstanding costume, we should be asking people to prove how it’s NOT accurate.  
spoiler: they won’t be able to.  That makes it screen accurate.  The discussion should end right there since we aren’t going for “prop accuracy” like some of the amazing, but clinically insane (much love to you, Fetts!) Boba Fetts who track down original pieces and don’t use any reproduction pieces.  
 
Look at the ANH costumes.  Those F451 things, etc.  
The CRL can change.
We aren’t lowering our standards.  Nobody out there in the general public gives a crap about princess seams and most of them don’t couldn’t even tell you what they are.  Approximately 98% of all non legion people I’ve asked over the years done even realize Vader’s costume was different in every movie.  You think potential seams barely visible not shown on screen on the back of a costume is what’s gonna hurt the credibility and reputation of the legion? 
Not as much as this, quite frankly, “weird flex” attempt at elitist gate keeping.  
Are we doing this for us, or for them? 
Perfect is the enemy of good.  
 

I rolled a 30 sided die (one side for each poster in this thread, associating side #1 with the first reply, #2 with the second, etc).  I rolled a 9, which correlates to you!
 
Congratulations!  Drop me a PM with your shipping address and I'll have it off next time I'm dropping stuff at the post office

A very common problem people can have, when they are new to forums like this one, is figuring out how to get their photos posted.  The IOC forums have only a very small amount of space for each person's account, due to server space limitations.  The 501st is a volunteer organization (how much did you pay to join?  Trick question!) and we don't have the deep pockets of the world's wealthiest mega corporations (Facebook, Google) to pay for the space to host everyone's unlimited photos.  And modern cellphones take very large images... a single image can easily fill your entire space allotment!
 
Instead, we recommend hosting your photos elsewhere.  Then you can simply paste a LINK to the photos here in the forums, and all it is is a little bit pf text... the photo itself is pulled from the other location.
 
The problem is many "free" places that you can post your photos do magic on the back end of their servers, to manage the massive quantities they have to deal with.  And they won't give a DIRECT link to your photos... they will only give a magically-generated link that they use to pull up the photo on the fly, and unfortunately, that won't work with forums like ours.  The link MUST be a direct link to a photo, ending in the image file itself, just like it would look if you save it to your computer's hard drive.  (like "IMG1234.jpg" or really any image name ending JPG, PNG or other common image formats)  Google, Facebook, DropBox... none of these popular places will give you a DIRECT link to your photos.
 
Fortunately, Imgur is a popular free host which DOES offer direct links to your photos, and works great for this.  It's free for now.  No one can know if it will remain free forever, but it's the best we can do at this time.  (We pray it never turns evil like Photobucket and breaks the internet, killing all linked photos unless you pay!)
 
If you've already managed to fill up your attachment allowance, once you have put your photos on Imgur and gotten links for them all, you can edit your posts and replace the photo attachments with the links.  It'll look exactly the same, but there won't be any space used in your local storage, once those attachments are deleted.
 
So here is a step-by-step instructions on how to use Imgur to host your photos, for all your posts here in the IOC Forums.  (and any other 501st forums)
 
THESE ARE DETAILED STEP-BY-STEP INSTRUCTIONS.  ONCE YOU DO THIS A COUPLE OF TIMES YOU'LL SEE IT'S A VERY SIMPLE PROCESS!  So don't be scared off by the length of these instructions!
 
Note: I personally find the process easiest on a real computer, but that requires you to have your photos already saved on your computer, and many people have their photos fairly trapped on their phones, these days.  Fortunately, they have a phone app also. 
 
1) Download the Imgur app onto your smartphone from your App Store or Google Play, or wherever you get apps.
 

 
2) Log in, or create an account.
 

 
Note: If asked, you'll need to allow the app access to your photos, obviously, else you can't upload photos or save them from Imgur.
 
4) Tap the Plus icon in the upper right corner to upload a new photo (or photos)
 

 
5) When you've selected all the pictures you want to upload, click Next (again, upper right corner)
 

 
6) On this next screen, you'll want to
 
A) Give the set of pictures a title (you are creating a "post" that's basically a "photo album", and you can add more photos to this album (post) later, or make another new one every time, whichever you choose) 
 
B.) Decide if you want the pictures to be public (the default, at first)... anyone in the world can see them, and search for keywords, and comment on them.  Or (my recommendation, but it's up to you) make them hidden so they can only be seen by you... or anyone with the direct link to the photo.  (Like people on this forum, when you paste in the links)
 
C) Optional: Add a description or tags if you want the image to show up for the general public's searches (or your own searches... it could be handy if you have a LOT of photos to be able to search).  Optional... if you don't understand this part, feel free to leave it blank.
 
D) Optional: If you want to add more, you can click "Add Images and Videos" there at the bottom.
 
E) Finally, click "Upload" (in the upper right, as usual).
 

 
7) It will warn you that you're creating a Private (or Public) post, in case that was an accident, otherwise, it'll upload the photo(s).
 

 
8.) Next it will offer you the ability to "Copy Link".  That link, however, is for the ENTIRE ALBUM.  (which may be one photo, or may be 100 photos)  Handy if you want to send the whole collection to someone to look over, but they have to follow the link to Imgur's website, scroll, etc., so that's not what you want if you just want to display a single photo in a forum post.  JUST CLICK THE "X".
 

 
 
9) Click on the SINGLE photo you want a link for, so it's full screen.  There will be a little icon at the bottom to share the image.  Tap that, and this time, you WANT to "Copy Link".
 

 
The link you just copied will look like this: https://i.imgur.com/Nxy6uJX.jpg   (note this ends in an actual JPG file and not some random string of letters like Google Drive, DropBox, etc.  THAT'S THE LINK YOU WANT!
 
I recommend pasting the link into a note (or email), if you want to collect a bunch of links all at once, otherwise if you're doing forums from your phone, you can paste that link directly into your forum post, and the forum will display the photo at that link.  Like magic!
 
Note: If you're alternating between your phone and a real computer:
 
Once you have uploaded the photos from your phone, you can do basically the same process, but on your computer.  Go to Imgur's website, log into your account, and you can see all the albums you have uploaded:
 
1) Click your account name in the upper right corner
 
2) Click All to show every album ("post") you have ever uploaded.  Find the album you want and open it. 
 


3) The easiest method I've found is to simply right-click the image (control-click on a mac, to right click) and choose to Copy the Image Location.  (Other browsers will phrase that differently, like "Copy image address" in Chrome)
 

 
Then, as before, just paste that link into your forum post and it will display the photo!
 
Enjoy!
 
One Warning: If you ever delete your account, or the photos from it, the photos will no longer display here on the forums.  All your posts will converted to broken image links that don't work, and especially if you kill an entire account, replacing every photo you've ever posted would be a pretty monumental task!  It's the ultimate "pail and shovel" move, so PLEASE don't do it!
 

You can check these out I have heard they are great. Custom made
https://crowprops.bigcartel.com/product/jackboot-ot-tie-tailored
 

Build Group on FB:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/333413117596739/
 

Well looks like this can be a crl now. Ben Walke just revealed they are adding a generic ISB reinforcement in Battlefront 2!

Pablo Hidalgo wrote the book and it came out not long after Solo, I'd say that makes it canon enough (being that it's officially done by the story group and it's not out of date material with no official sources). 

Forgive me if this was posted somewhere already, but I just learned of the existence of there being multiple agents using the same armor as Agent Kallus.  Would this create the possibility of creating a generic ISB agent (armored) CRL?
The Lucasfilm source photo:

"Star Wars: Scum and Villainy: Case Files on the Galaxy's Most Notorious"
https://www.amazon.com/Star-Wars-Villainy-Galaxys-Notorious/dp/076036205X
https://www.starwars.com/news/pablo-hidalgo-scum-and-villainy
https://www.starwars.com/news/scum-and-villainy-artists-interview
 
It's a pretty neat book, written from the points of views of a family of lawman during The Clone Wars, Galactic Civil War, and sequel eras. There's also rumors that a female ISB agent with this look is going to be added as a playable class in Battlefront 2. So this would be more of a field agent kind of thing vs. the usual tunic/black pants look.

I am a horror fan, so The Thing or Event Horizon.

Thats correct, I have seen both costumes in person and they are very good.

From the few that I have seen that I KNOW are from MazCave/DJsCave and they look great.  They did the FO Security Bureau uniform used in the CRL.

From the few that I have seen that I KNOW are from MazCave/DJsCave and they look great.  They did the FO Security Bureau uniform used in the CRL.

Mazcave on Etsy are the only vendor i know of.

Unfortunately for vendors, there is a huge jump in price.  There are 3 tiers for pricing, and the jump in price from tier 1 to 2 is huge. 
Tier 1 - Cosplaysky $100
Tier 2 - *Magnoli*/Mazcave ~$800
Tier 3 - Clothears ~$1200
 
I would recommend saving up for something better than Cosplaysky.  While they are fine for the black uniform, I feel like the green is just too green.  Personal opinion and people still get them approved, but I just saved up for Magnoli and am really happy with it.  I got the flares slightly altered, but other than that it has been perfect. 
 
I didn't mention Anovos for multiple reasons.
 
*Edit* - Magnoli might have some other issues as well.  There is a thread about it floating around.

I just have a light garment bag for the tunic and pants.  For the boots and everything else, I have a large gym bag that everything goes in.  The boots are in some soft boot covers to protect them, a ziploc bag full of rank bars and the code cylinders, and then my belt rolls up into my hat.

Howdy, Gabriel! Remember, you also have the option of going for a "Social Officer" build. One benefit is that low quarters or chelsea styled boots are far less expensive than riding boots. Here's the CRL link if you want to check into it:
 
http://databank.501st.com/databank/Costuming:ID_imperial_Formal

I have custom officer boots from Hessen, I highly recommend them.  Great quality, a good price for what you get, and comfortable.  At 20'', custom is likley going to be your only option.  
 
Officer boots tend to be the hardest part- unless you're just willing to sell out about as much for them as you did the entire rest of the uniform.

Buy once, cry once.  The custom options that people use (Hessen, Mux) are RELATIVELY cheap too, since they are more for costumes and not actual riding/military.  When I was looking for boots originally, I found a lot of custom stuff, at like $800-$1400.  ~$300 is not bad at all, especially when they last you.

Buy once, cry once.  The custom options that people use (Hessen, Mux) are RELATIVELY cheap too, since they are more for costumes and not actual riding/military.  When I was looking for boots originally, I found a lot of custom stuff, at like $800-$1400.  ~$300 is not bad at all, especially when they last you.