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Wampa of the left, cossky in the middle and anovos on the right. Anovos has the best and most accurate color. All however are approvable.

Wampa of the left, cossky in the middle and anovos on the right. Anovos has the best and most accurate color. All however are approvable.

Nice! 

Welcome! 

I have, my squad has had several theaters contact us. 
 

Congrats! 

Exciting stuff to see a new costume get brought to the legion, even if it's not IOC! I also agree with your sentiment here, this is a great way for cross-detachment co-operation! If an IOC member wants to make this it gives them to join a new detachment they might not already apart of, or if an IGC member wants to make this, they can get help with the uniform from IOC members! We're all in this together!

Ladies and gentlemen, 
 
The LMOs have granted the Imperial Gunnery Corps detachment this kit. Not a big surprise for most people I'm sure.
 
I would head over there if you want to make this. Drew is a wonderful detachment leader who is willing to work with anyone! 
 
The IGC doesn't get as many new costumes as us. It's not anti-ioc to recognize this. Its about fairness and unity with other detachments. We're actually very fortunate at the IOC, to get many new costumes every year!
 
So lets be happy for the wonderful wholesome people at the IGC, instead of sour. If you want to make this, look at it as a new opportunity to meet new people in the IGC! At the end of the day, we make these for charity and community service! One legion, one goal! 

Irrelevant, but if you paid attention to my campaign, I ran on detachment unity. That means working with them and negotiating and not isolating the IOC. We're not in good standing right now with the other detachments due to poor decision-making and anti "stronger together" policy. This certainly isn't helping the IOC's case.
 
 
Are we going to pretend that all those parts besides the tunics aren't used in other detachments? The belt alone is in several detachments: Spec Ops, JRS, ICG to name a few. Rank Bars are in Spec ops, ACD, BF. The pants are just the lower half of the jumpsuit with flares. The jumpsuit is used on other CRLs, not in the IOC. 
 
 
I can tell you what I wouldn't do. Protest for a whole new detachment because I didn't get my way. Army troopers are long established Spec Ops CRLs. You can't just try to steal the current ones for the IOC. Another great "stronger togher" policy from your leader. Since these troopers are established, it only makes sense that the Andor troopers go to Spec Ops.
 
 
1) Special forces, hence Spec Ops. 
2)Phasma was just a TK with a high rank, not special forces. Hence FISD.

Ladies and gentlemen, 
 
The LMOs have granted the Imperial Gunnery Corps detachment this kit. Not a big surprise for most people I'm sure.
 
I would head over there if you want to make this. Drew is a wonderful detachment leader who is willing to work with anyone! 
 
The IGC doesn't get as many new costumes as us. It's not anti-ioc to recognize this. Its about fairness and unity with other detachments. We're actually very fortunate at the IOC, to get many new costumes every year!
 
So lets be happy for the wonderful wholesome people at the IGC, instead of sour. If you want to make this, look at it as a new opportunity to meet new people in the IGC! At the end of the day, we make these for charity and community service! One legion, one goal! 

Ladies and gentlemen, 
 
The LMOs have granted the Imperial Gunnery Corps detachment this kit. Not a big surprise for most people I'm sure.
 
I would head over there if you want to make this. Drew is a wonderful detachment leader who is willing to work with anyone! 
 
The IGC doesn't get as many new costumes as us. It's not anti-ioc to recognize this. Its about fairness and unity with other detachments. We're actually very fortunate at the IOC, to get many new costumes every year!
 
So lets be happy for the wonderful wholesome people at the IGC, instead of sour. If you want to make this, look at it as a new opportunity to meet new people in the IGC! At the end of the day, we make these for charity and community service! One legion, one goal! 

Has this been green lit from the LMO team?  Surely the amnesty program was for former Imperials who were rehabilitated and now working for the New Republic?

Oh please, we both know that is FAR from the truth. What did you want to call it again? Imperial Army Trooper Detachment? Didn't get your CRLs so you boycotted for a whole new detachment. "stronger together!" As your staff puts it. We demonstrate this by trying to steal established CRLs from other detachments because we didn't get our way!
 
Yeah, it's not a personal notion. It's common sense. I understand a dark trooper, is not an officer CRL. You claim to be the upmost Star Wars expert. Yet you think gunners and dark troopers are officers now?!
 
Stop attacking the staffs before yours, its toxic and not very representative of "stronger together". The detachment was never as divided as it is now. So the idea your pedaling, that the IOC was actually worse before you, is utter nonsense.

Oh please, we both know that is FAR from the truth. What did you want to call it again? Imperial Army Trooper Detachment? Didn't get your CRLs so you boycotted for a whole new detachment. "stronger together!" As your staff puts it. We demonstrate this by trying to steal established CRLs from other detachments because we didn't get our way!
 
Yeah, it's not a personal notion. It's common sense. I understand a dark trooper, is not an officer CRL. You claim to be the upmost Star Wars expert. Yet you think gunners and dark troopers are officers now?!
 
Stop attacking the staffs before yours, its toxic and not very representative of "stronger together". The detachment was never as divided as it is now. So the idea your pedaling, that the IOC was actually worse before you, is utter nonsense.

I will say this again and it is the policy of this detachment.  A member wants to do a costume, they collect reference photos, we submit them to the LMO.  The LMO are the traffic controller for the legion determining where things go.  THEY have that authority, not me and not you.  
 
If a DL here does not take a members request forward to the LMO, they are exceeding their authority.

@whitmers has worked with us twice before making Gideon costumes.  It is natural he would come to us.

You might want to check with Spec Ops before developing this one! 
 
Just a heads up! I know you'll knock this one out of the park as well!

You might want to check with Spec Ops before developing this one! 
 
Just a heads up! I know you'll knock this one out of the park as well!

I fight for all the detachments and work with them. I'll advocate for the IOC when the IOC needs advocating for. But don't pretend a gunner is an IOC costume, you know better.
 
Also we don't own boots, gloves, belt or the cargo pants. Plenty other detachments use those. Even the rank bar is used in other detachments.
 
Also thank for proving my point bud! 

Here's the IGC development thread for people who wanted to look:

https://imperialgunners.com/forums/index.php?/topic/3499-imperial-technician-bad-batch-research-and-discussion/#comment-61593

The metric I'm using is that this character is wearing a gunner helmet, which is the literal logo of IGC. Also, they already have the Imperial Weapons Tech CRL, which is nearly identical to this one in terms of the overall design—Gunner helmet, grey outfit, etc. 
 
An officer tunic is the only officer exclusive part of this. You don't need experts for that item because tunics are readily available. 
 
 
There's no pushback for the reasons you think they are because or because it's a bad idea. It's all technical. Dual affiliation requires a lot of backend tech work and would consume a lot of time. Going through 30000 approved kits to update detachment affiliation would be challenging. Most people only use the detachment for merch runs and kit assistance. The active users that would appreciate the feature are a minority. Is it worth the time? I don't think so, personally.  
 
The system we have right now is fine; if it aint broke, don't fix it. 
 
 
ACD, not Blizzard Force.
 

That is a good message, but not everyone on your staff believes that. People here treat the IOC as the best detachment in the legion; every other detachment is beneath the IOC. (I guess that's a fitting attitude for officers) There is nothing wrong with detachment pride, but once you start trying to steal CRLs from other detachments or being rude towards other detachment members or staffers, you're an elitist. Not saying you are, but again, there are people here and on the IOC staff that take this way too seriously, those people need to do a reality check. Plastic spaceman club, not the actual Empire. 
 
When you start stepping on other detachments' toes, you only create anger in this group. That has happened here and it flies in the face of stronger together. 
 
Because, as you said, we are stronger together. I'm a member of multiple detachments and will advocate for them equally. We dont have a claim to this. They wear gunner helmets. Let's stop picking fights with other detachments, please. Andor and Mando have given us plenty of new officer things. Don't pretend a tech wearing a gunner helmet belongs in the IOC, when the ICG already has a similar CRL.
 
If people here think this belongs in the IOC, consider this. The ICG has six CRLs; we have close to 50. They rarely get new characters to create. Time to put your money where your mouth is. This is stronger together. The ICG deserves this CRL, not the IOC.

Might want to reach out to the Imperial Gunnery Corps before proceeding. 

It is important to simply understand that lazy modellers have chosen to mimic overalls based on officer uniforms, instead of making a full-fledged model of overalls or at least using resources, left over from the Rebels. 

Irrelevant, but if you paid attention to my campaign, I ran on detachment unity. That means working with them and negotiating and not isolating the IOC. We're not in good standing right now with the other detachments due to poor decision-making and anti "stronger together" policy. This certainly isn't helping the IOC's case.
 
 
Are we going to pretend that all those parts besides the tunics aren't used in other detachments? The belt alone is in several detachments: Spec Ops, JRS, ICG to name a few. Rank Bars are in Spec ops, ACD, BF. The pants are just the lower half of the jumpsuit with flares. The jumpsuit is used on other CRLs, not in the IOC. 
 
 
I can tell you what I wouldn't do. Protest for a whole new detachment because I didn't get my way. Army troopers are long established Spec Ops CRLs. You can't just try to steal the current ones for the IOC. Another great "stronger togher" policy from your leader. Since these troopers are established, it only makes sense that the Andor troopers go to Spec Ops.
 
 
1) Special forces, hence Spec Ops. 
2)Phasma was just a TK with a high rank, not special forces. Hence FISD.

The metric I'm using is that this character is wearing a gunner helmet, which is the literal logo of IGC. Also, they already have the Imperial Weapons Tech CRL, which is nearly identical to this one in terms of the overall design—Gunner helmet, grey outfit, etc. 
 
An officer tunic is the only officer exclusive part of this. You don't need experts for that item because tunics are readily available. 
 
 
There's no pushback for the reasons you think they are because or because it's a bad idea. It's all technical. Dual affiliation requires a lot of backend tech work and would consume a lot of time. Going through 30000 approved kits to update detachment affiliation would be challenging. Most people only use the detachment for merch runs and kit assistance. The active users that would appreciate the feature are a minority. Is it worth the time? I don't think so, personally.  
 
The system we have right now is fine; if it aint broke, don't fix it. 
 
 
ACD, not Blizzard Force.
 

That is a good message, but not everyone on your staff believes that. People here treat the IOC as the best detachment in the legion; every other detachment is beneath the IOC. (I guess that's a fitting attitude for officers) There is nothing wrong with detachment pride, but once you start trying to steal CRLs from other detachments or being rude towards other detachment members or staffers, you're an elitist. Not saying you are, but again, there are people here and on the IOC staff that take this way too seriously, those people need to do a reality check. Plastic spaceman club, not the actual Empire. 
 
When you start stepping on other detachments' toes, you only create anger in this group. That has happened here and it flies in the face of stronger together. 
 
Because, as you said, we are stronger together. I'm a member of multiple detachments and will advocate for them equally. We dont have a claim to this. They wear gunner helmets. Let's stop picking fights with other detachments, please. Andor and Mando have given us plenty of new officer things. Don't pretend a tech wearing a gunner helmet belongs in the IOC, when the ICG already has a similar CRL.
 
If people here think this belongs in the IOC, consider this. The ICG has six CRLs; we have close to 50. They rarely get new characters to create. Time to put your money where your mouth is. This is stronger together. The ICG deserves this CRL, not the IOC.

regardless... and bringing this back to the topic.... No one here makes this decision,   As detachment leader, I can advocate, but this is not my decision.  This is a decision of the LMO office and it is currently in their hands.

IF the IGC doesn't make this costume, we may reactivate this thread and make our case again.  Sometimes new costumes go to other detachments and nothing happens.  If anything is granted here we will make every possible effort to bring it to completion.