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    Eagle reacted to buckrogersbarker in New CRL starter thread for the Imperial Tech (The Bad Batch)   
    this thread was formally submitted to the LMOs for review last week.  We will receive word from them after Celebrations

    I have even talked this over with the IGC Detachment leader.  We talked about the uniform and keeping to the stylings of the animated officers regardless of which detachment gets this and goes forward.

    And that is the cooperation and discussions needed to produce a costume for all members.

    The people who come in and say "it should be here" or "it should be there" and contribute nothing to building the costume do no service to its progress. 
    We have an outlined process for costume creation.  It is a mediated process involving the LMOs and we will respect it.

    That said, the leadership (and potential leadership) of this detachment should advocate for the membership of this detachment and not serve as a proxy for others.
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    Eagle reacted to buckrogersbarker in New CRL starter thread for the Imperial Tech (The Bad Batch)   
    good fighting for the IOC there.  Officer boots, breeches, belt, tunic, rank badge, gloves....  But the helmet makes it belong to someone else. 

    Automatically hand it to other detachments.  And maybe it should go there after a discussion, but the leadership of this detachment (and the future leadership) should never automatically roll over for other detachments.  The members of this detachment need an advocate.
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    Eagle got a reaction from AngelFelix in New CRL starter thread for the Imperial Tech (The Bad Batch)   
    The metric I'm using is that this character is wearing a gunner helmet, which is the literal logo of IGC. Also, they already have the Imperial Weapons Tech CRL, which is nearly identical to this one in terms of the overall design—Gunner helmet, grey outfit, etc. 
     
    An officer tunic is the only officer exclusive part of this. You don't need experts for that item because tunics are readily available. 
     
     
    There's no pushback for the reasons you think they are because or because it's a bad idea. It's all technical. Dual affiliation requires a lot of backend tech work and would consume a lot of time. Going through 30000 approved kits to update detachment affiliation would be challenging. Most people only use the detachment for merch runs and kit assistance. The active users that would appreciate the feature are a minority. Is it worth the time? I don't think so, personally.  
     
    The system we have right now is fine; if it aint broke, don't fix it. 
     
     
    ACD, not Blizzard Force.
     

    That is a good message, but not everyone on your staff believes that. People here treat the IOC as the best detachment in the legion; every other detachment is beneath the IOC. (I guess that's a fitting attitude for officers) There is nothing wrong with detachment pride, but once you start trying to steal CRLs from other detachments or being rude towards other detachment members or staffers, you're an elitist. Not saying you are, but again, there are people here and on the IOC staff that take this way too seriously, those people need to do a reality check. Plastic spaceman club, not the actual Empire. 
     
    When you start stepping on other detachments' toes, you only create anger in this group. That has happened here and it flies in the face of stronger together. 
     
    Because, as you said, we are stronger together. I'm a member of multiple detachments and will advocate for them equally. We dont have a claim to this. They wear gunner helmets. Let's stop picking fights with other detachments, please. Andor and Mando have given us plenty of new officer things. Don't pretend a tech wearing a gunner helmet belongs in the IOC, when the ICG already has a similar CRL.
     
    If people here think this belongs in the IOC, consider this. The ICG has six CRLs; we have close to 50. They rarely get new characters to create. Time to put your money where your mouth is. This is stronger together. The ICG deserves this CRL, not the IOC.
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    Eagle got a reaction from AngelFelix in New CRL starter thread for the Imperial Tech (The Bad Batch)   
    Here's the IGC development thread for people who wanted to look:

    https://imperialgunners.com/forums/index.php?/topic/3499-imperial-technician-bad-batch-research-and-discussion/#comment-61593
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    Eagle got a reaction from IcyTrooper in New CRL starter thread for the Imperial Tech (The Bad Batch)   
    The metric I'm using is that this character is wearing a gunner helmet, which is the literal logo of IGC. Also, they already have the Imperial Weapons Tech CRL, which is nearly identical to this one in terms of the overall design—Gunner helmet, grey outfit, etc. 
     
    An officer tunic is the only officer exclusive part of this. You don't need experts for that item because tunics are readily available. 
     
     
    There's no pushback for the reasons you think they are because or because it's a bad idea. It's all technical. Dual affiliation requires a lot of backend tech work and would consume a lot of time. Going through 30000 approved kits to update detachment affiliation would be challenging. Most people only use the detachment for merch runs and kit assistance. The active users that would appreciate the feature are a minority. Is it worth the time? I don't think so, personally.  
     
    The system we have right now is fine; if it aint broke, don't fix it. 
     
     
    ACD, not Blizzard Force.
     

    That is a good message, but not everyone on your staff believes that. People here treat the IOC as the best detachment in the legion; every other detachment is beneath the IOC. (I guess that's a fitting attitude for officers) There is nothing wrong with detachment pride, but once you start trying to steal CRLs from other detachments or being rude towards other detachment members or staffers, you're an elitist. Not saying you are, but again, there are people here and on the IOC staff that take this way too seriously, those people need to do a reality check. Plastic spaceman club, not the actual Empire. 
     
    When you start stepping on other detachments' toes, you only create anger in this group. That has happened here and it flies in the face of stronger together. 
     
    Because, as you said, we are stronger together. I'm a member of multiple detachments and will advocate for them equally. We dont have a claim to this. They wear gunner helmets. Let's stop picking fights with other detachments, please. Andor and Mando have given us plenty of new officer things. Don't pretend a tech wearing a gunner helmet belongs in the IOC, when the ICG already has a similar CRL.
     
    If people here think this belongs in the IOC, consider this. The ICG has six CRLs; we have close to 50. They rarely get new characters to create. Time to put your money where your mouth is. This is stronger together. The ICG deserves this CRL, not the IOC.
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    Eagle got a reaction from VynnDrax in New CRL starter thread for the Imperial Tech (The Bad Batch)   
    The metric I'm using is that this character is wearing a gunner helmet, which is the literal logo of IGC. Also, they already have the Imperial Weapons Tech CRL, which is nearly identical to this one in terms of the overall design—Gunner helmet, grey outfit, etc. 
     
    An officer tunic is the only officer exclusive part of this. You don't need experts for that item because tunics are readily available. 
     
     
    There's no pushback for the reasons you think they are because or because it's a bad idea. It's all technical. Dual affiliation requires a lot of backend tech work and would consume a lot of time. Going through 30000 approved kits to update detachment affiliation would be challenging. Most people only use the detachment for merch runs and kit assistance. The active users that would appreciate the feature are a minority. Is it worth the time? I don't think so, personally.  
     
    The system we have right now is fine; if it aint broke, don't fix it. 
     
     
    ACD, not Blizzard Force.
     

    That is a good message, but not everyone on your staff believes that. People here treat the IOC as the best detachment in the legion; every other detachment is beneath the IOC. (I guess that's a fitting attitude for officers) There is nothing wrong with detachment pride, but once you start trying to steal CRLs from other detachments or being rude towards other detachment members or staffers, you're an elitist. Not saying you are, but again, there are people here and on the IOC staff that take this way too seriously, those people need to do a reality check. Plastic spaceman club, not the actual Empire. 
     
    When you start stepping on other detachments' toes, you only create anger in this group. That has happened here and it flies in the face of stronger together. 
     
    Because, as you said, we are stronger together. I'm a member of multiple detachments and will advocate for them equally. We dont have a claim to this. They wear gunner helmets. Let's stop picking fights with other detachments, please. Andor and Mando have given us plenty of new officer things. Don't pretend a tech wearing a gunner helmet belongs in the IOC, when the ICG already has a similar CRL.
     
    If people here think this belongs in the IOC, consider this. The ICG has six CRLs; we have close to 50. They rarely get new characters to create. Time to put your money where your mouth is. This is stronger together. The ICG deserves this CRL, not the IOC.
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    Eagle reacted to Detaleader in New CRL starter thread for the Imperial Tech (The Bad Batch)   
    I agree, this probably ought to be with IGC, especially considering the Rebels Tech is over there too. 
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    Eagle got a reaction from AphraCat in IC96596 Reporting for Duty!   
    Welcome!
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    Eagle got a reaction from TookBreaker in ID 23011   
    Congrats Tarkan! Can't wait to see you wear this at a troop!
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    Eagle got a reaction from Detaleader in Crewman (Non saga) Update Proposal   
    Some good points here! 
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    Eagle reacted to Detaleader in Crewman (Non saga) Update Proposal   
    Hey folks! Since the thread for the Non Saga Crew has been moved to completed, I figured now would be a good time to create a new thread to discuss potential updates. Wouldn't want to have these things fade into obscurity
     
    Here's a list of things mentioned on the previous thread: 
     
    - Compad
    -> Replace images of OT TIE compads with IGC compad. Change compad to be mandatory component, unless we find evidence, that they shouldn't be mandatory. 
    -> If more evidence is found we could add the compad style seen on Yort Cavwol. 
    -> I feel like it might be worth discussing r1 TIE compads should be permitted. I haven't been able to find evidence for them being used for the Crewman. 
     
    - Flight Suit 
    -> Flap on the back of the suit (Level 3?)
    -> Nylon Strapping on the top of the com cylinder sleeves may be permitted for L1, but should not be there for L2/3 
    -> Remove padding in shoulders for L2/3 
     
    In my opinion, reusing the R1 TIE suit for L2/3 should likely not be possible. The suits are different enough to the point where a mere zipper swap is likely not gonna cut it. 
     
    - Gloves -> Find evidence that gauntlets are suitable. If not, remove gauntlets. Add shorter officer style gloves, optionally three lines on hand(?) 
     
    - Boots -> Remove "buckle/strap" requirement, as we have multiple screen used instances of boots with no Buckles being used.
     
    - Optional headset? -> If somebody gets around to building one 
     
    Link to previous thread, where some additional images and info has been posted. 
     
    I know some of the updates concern optional accessories. However, imo that shouldn't be a reason to have people grab wrong things or have wrong images around for what is effectively a costume guideline for many people.  
     
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    Eagle got a reaction from buckrogersbarker in Happy New Year IOC!   
    Happy new year everyone! Here's to an awesome 2023! 
     
    Cheers!
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    Eagle got a reaction from Toph in Happy New Year IOC!   
    Happy new year everyone! Here's to an awesome 2023! 
     
    Cheers!
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    Eagle got a reaction from captsafe66 in Happy New Year IOC!   
    Happy new year everyone! Here's to an awesome 2023! 
     
    Cheers!
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    Eagle reacted to Ketchup in Dedra Meero CRL?   
    I’m baaaaack with my annoyingness after finals and Christmas. LOL!
     
    Here’s my take on the color thing. There’s a difference between screen-accurate and set-accurate, and I’m going to use the original Star Trek series to illustrate that point (which some may be familiar with):
     
    When you see Captain Kirk on-screen, in the show, the tunic has that 60s/70s gold color to it, with a hint of green. If you ever see the actual costume in real life, it’s straight-up avocado green. The way the studio lighting reflects the color makes it appear MUCH different onscreen. To me, the “screen-accurate” color is what we see on screen, and what we would imagine the uniform would look like in real life if Captain Kirk were to step out of your TV screen and into your living room. The avocado green is set-accurate, so, in real life accurate. In my opinion, we need to be going with what is seen on screen, not for what it looks like in real life. We want to look like we *are* the characters, as they are on-screen, not mannequins in a museum.
     
    Especially as we’re talking Tier 2 and Tier 3 approvals, I really don’t think we want to use the way the costumes appear in the real world as a basis. Tbh, I feel like if it’s anywhere close to what we see on screen, it should be acceptable for Tier 2-3. The shades of olivegrau aren’t that picky for line officers, I don’t see why it should be for Andor ISB and Dedra. Certainly not to the extent of specifying a Pantone color (a family of colors I could see, though).
     
    Also, I would like to suggest potential higher-tier details for Dedra’s hairstyle:
    - She wears a specific bun style that should be re-created/emulated, and
    - She wears a light blonde hair net over the bun.
     
    Dedra’s hairstyle does make her different from her colleagues, after all.
     
    (Edit for spelling error.)
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    Eagle got a reaction from Ketchup in Dedra Meero CRL?   
    I appreciate you feedback, but respectfully, I do think you misunderstood my post above. 
     
    The main reason I think she should have a CRL is not because she's a woman. Its because she's the main antagonist in the Andor series. What I meant is that not every background officer with one or no lines needs a CRL. But if they are a main character, I believe that's enough to warrant a CRL. Again, Dedra is not a background character, she's the main villain of the show and probably will be for the next season. That's why myself and others believe she needs a CRL. 
     
    As a stated a few post above, we recently had a few members voice that the IOC CRLs were not diverse enough, its a public post. While it doesn't specifically address the issue raised in the post, having a Dedra CRL would help the situation I believe, however, it was not my only reason for her have a CRL. I don't like sexual discrimination either, I assure you of that. But I fail to see how providing more representation equals discrimination. I pointed out that Dedra is a the first onscreen female lead officer in a Star Wars IP, that's a true statement and only one of my points.
     
    We're now also learning her uniform is designed differently. This hasn't stopped us in the past. ANH Staff and Non Saga Staff are the same thing with different stitching. Which is totally fine! 
     
    This whole discussion started because someone wanted to make a Dedra CRL and they were denied. No one should be opposed to more CRLs. Just look at the Clone Trooper Detachment, they'll make a new CRL for minor variations and that's totally fine! The more the merrier! At the end of the day, I just want more CRLs. Yes, they need to be done right with proper references, I agree. I believe Dedra deserves one for multiple reason, not just because she's a female. 
     
    Yes, I would be open to continuing this conversion elsewhere. 
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    Eagle got a reaction from Ketchup in Dedra Meero CRL?   
    This CRL system where one CRL can be the base for any officer isn't being promoted truthfully. Whether that's intentional or unintentional I'm not sure.
     
    You can't say that the ISB CRL can be used to get approved as any named officer. Taking Dedra's configuration and applying as ISB doesn't make you Dedra, it makes you ISB. These face characters need separate CRLs if you want to be officially approved as that character. Otherwise your just a generic officer with a character's configuration. 
     
    For example, I can't go to my GML and say, "I'm Dedra, but I'm applying as ISB". I'm going to get listed as ISB officially. When the DL said, "Deedra Meero CAN be done this moment with the existing CRL.", it's not true. So I said "Dedra can't be done at the moment." I hope my explanation above makes sense. 

    Obviously, not every named officer needs a CRL. I'm also for adding more rank bars and configurations to the generic CRLs, that's fine.  But Dedra is a main villain, she is more than worthy of a CRL. It doesn't matter that she uses the same parts of ISB. Besides, we are quickly learning her uniform is slightly altered. 
     
    As a side note, I also don't appreciate the hesitation of this detachment to make CRLs. For an administration that claims to be so pro CRL and costume creation, there was certainly an effort made to shut this one down immediately. I'm sure it would have if myself and others didn't step in to protest. You don't need group interest to make a CRL. If only ONE person is willing to put in the work, let them make the CRL, they have that right. It isn't up to the DL to pick and choice what is made.  
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    Eagle reacted to Daetrin in Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays   
    Wishing everyone a joyous holiday season and a blessed 2023.
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    Eagle reacted to bjsavage7 in Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays   
    Happy Holidays, everyone! 
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    Eagle got a reaction from buckrogersbarker in Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays   
    Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to everyone! 
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    Eagle got a reaction from Toph in Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays   
    Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to everyone! 
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    Eagle reacted to captsafe66 in Happy Holidays!!   
    Happy Holidays to everyone!!  
     
    Whatever Holiday you may Celebrate, May your Holiday Season be Joyful and May the Force be with  you all!!
     
     
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    Eagle got a reaction from Hound in Dedra Meero CRL?   
    This CRL system where one CRL can be the base for any officer isn't being promoted truthfully. Whether that's intentional or unintentional I'm not sure.
     
    You can't say that the ISB CRL can be used to get approved as any named officer. Taking Dedra's configuration and applying as ISB doesn't make you Dedra, it makes you ISB. These face characters need separate CRLs if you want to be officially approved as that character. Otherwise your just a generic officer with a character's configuration. 
     
    For example, I can't go to my GML and say, "I'm Dedra, but I'm applying as ISB". I'm going to get listed as ISB officially. When the DL said, "Deedra Meero CAN be done this moment with the existing CRL.", it's not true. So I said "Dedra can't be done at the moment." I hope my explanation above makes sense. 

    Obviously, not every named officer needs a CRL. I'm also for adding more rank bars and configurations to the generic CRLs, that's fine.  But Dedra is a main villain, she is more than worthy of a CRL. It doesn't matter that she uses the same parts of ISB. Besides, we are quickly learning her uniform is slightly altered. 
     
    As a side note, I also don't appreciate the hesitation of this detachment to make CRLs. For an administration that claims to be so pro CRL and costume creation, there was certainly an effort made to shut this one down immediately. I'm sure it would have if myself and others didn't step in to protest. You don't need group interest to make a CRL. If only ONE person is willing to put in the work, let them make the CRL, they have that right. It isn't up to the DL to pick and choice what is made.  
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    Eagle reacted to Daetrin in Dedra Meero CRL?   
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    Eagle got a reaction from 501stCitizen in Line Officer Color Question   
    Wampa of the left, cossky in the middle and anovos on the right. Anovos has the best and most accurate color. All however are approvable.

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