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    Eagle got a reaction from kman in Imperial Military Officer (Non-Saga), green   
    I propose we make a 'prescreening officer' CRL. Adding all this info into one CRL is making it too cluttered. I can foresee new members getting confused if we put too much into this crl.
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    Eagle got a reaction from Hask in Imperial Military Officer (Non-Saga), green   
    Chiming in as a Centurion. If our TKs were exact copies of the ones used on screen, we wouldn't make it 10 steps out of the changing space lol! There is a balance to be had between accuracy and compromise. Strapping and non visible parts typically are flexible on accuracy. But something like making officer ranks bars optional shouldn't be on the table in my opinion. I recommend making a warrant officer if you don't want a rank bar lol.
     
    Rank bars need to remain 
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    Eagle got a reaction from lantern2745 in Imperial Military Officer (Non-Saga), green   
    Chiming in as a Centurion. If our TKs were exact copies of the ones used on screen, we wouldn't make it 10 steps out of the changing space lol! There is a balance to be had between accuracy and compromise. Strapping and non visible parts typically are flexible on accuracy. But something like making officer ranks bars optional shouldn't be on the table in my opinion. I recommend making a warrant officer if you don't want a rank bar lol.
     
    Rank bars need to remain 
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    Eagle reacted to kman in Imperial Military Officer (Non-Saga), green   
    Gloves being optional is fine with me, as long as they were in the green costume.  I just couldn't recall any examples off the top of my head so I wasn't sure.  I'll edit my post to move it into the Optional section.
     
    We'll leave the rain poncho out until we actually see someone wearing one, then we can add it in easily enough.
     
    Re Aliens, right, that's what I was trying to accomodate, in terms of appearance.  I figured we'd want options there, and didn't want to write it in a way that would exclude aliens and require future changes, if it could be phrased well enough today.
     
    I'm not sure I'm on board with leaving rank bars off, though.  That feels like more of a "wardrobe malfunction" (temporary / on purpose or otherwise) than how a uniform is supposed to be worn.  I'm sure there were times that officers are literally half dressed, too, while they prepare for their day, but we don't necessarily need to enshrine that state into the CRL for someone to wear at a troop.
     
    Thanks for the compliment.   I wrote most of this about a month ago... sorry it took so long to get it cleaned up and posted!
     
    Once we collect photos, hopefully things can move quickly from here, if not other major changes are needed.  I'd still like to get some sort of wording in there to make it clear that blackface is not what we mean by makeup...
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    Eagle reacted to snipedoc2001 in Imperial Military Officer (Non-Saga), green   
    My two cents on this is I complete agree with it.  Over at FISD, they try to find how the armor is supposed to be worn.  If you look at ANH or ESB, you can see plenty of malfunctions, shoulders backwards or falling off, armor duct taped on, biceps missing cover strips, Mr. No Stripes (A TK without tube stripes on the bucket), etc.  IMO the CRL should be based off how the officer is supposed to look, not how they look in a specific scene or reference material.
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    Eagle got a reaction from SabreTaser in Officer poses   
    I like pointing my blaster at the camera!


    If you dont have a blaster, just hold up your fist! Nothing beats the classic fist pose! 

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    Eagle got a reaction from whitmers in Moff Gideon CRL - The Mandalorian, Season One   
    congrats!
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    Eagle reacted to nanotek in Sith Eternal Officer   
    Hi there, I only just stumbled across this thread today and have to say that I am quite shocked by some of the disrespectful comments aimed at the Spec Ops detachment. As a long serving staff member of Spec Ops (currently DL) we do not tolerate this kind of behaviour from anyone on our forums. We take great pride working on our CRL's and adhere to the CRL development guidelines 110%. If you have issue with any of our CRLs you should bring that up with us on our forums as we are happy to take feedback.
     
    Thanks
     
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    Eagle got a reaction from KalAkaan in Crowprops Boots   
    Yes the are! 
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    Eagle got a reaction from RobinKrennicDutch in Flashback Krennic is approved   
    Congrats! 
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    Eagle got a reaction from TheArtofWar in Imperial Officer gloves   
    https://www.etsy.com/listing/611966182/men-leather-gloves-hsm2018
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    Eagle reacted to DarthAloha in Sith Eternal Officer   
    Bob,
     
    Give me a day or two to do some reading on these costumes and then I'll circle the LMO wagons. I'll let you know the day we start a vote so IOC may have the 7 day count down.
     
    Many thanks,
     
    -Eric
     
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    Eagle reacted to DarthAloha in Sith Eternal Officer   
    Hi everyone,
     
    Here's to hoping Greene or someone can wrangle a back view of this costume out of LFL. 
     
    Bob asked about our process decrying a lack of transparency. There isn't much to it. If we're not already involved on the respective detachment forums, we'll get word from a detachment about a possible inclusion (usually via lmo@501st.com) of a new to the legion costume, we discuss it in the LMO area on the legion forums, and we vote on it. 
     
    One improvement we intend to make (as suggested by Rikki today) is to put a time limit on the vote and discussion. It'll be a 7 day period to ensure the detachment isn't waiting on us. 
     
    In past years the decision was made unilaterally, usually with input from the team, by the lead LMO. Last year Nathan instituted an all LMO vote for such things which Kris and I continued on. Going even further back in history the LMO made all the decisions with zero transparency often just authoring CRLs himself (when I was DL of FISD the LMO dropped the jes gistang CRL on me without even consulting with the detachment). 
     
    I cannot speak for past LMOs, but personally having been around the LMO block a few times, I've been very consistent in requiring front, back and side references. This time the entire team agreed. I have and will continue to apply this standard, even to comics, trading cards, and other non-screen references too. 
     
    What’s a little ironic is that you can find threads on the legion forum accusing me of not believing in accuracy. I often take a much softer stance on the need to put every single detail with measurements in our requirements. The Greedo CRL being my very favorite of all of them. Here we are being lambasted on social media and the forums by a campaign against our desire for accuracy. 
     
    I do feel terrible for the costumer who made the Sith Eternal Officer. I harbor no small amount of guilt for our decision even if I think it is the right one. 
     
    If you look back on the history of new to the legion costumes you will find wild inconsistencies having to do with whatever LMO team was ratified that year. Precedence is often thrown out the window year to year when there is a change in LMO. That is the nature of the LMO office. You'll find this is true with your GCOs too. 
     
    The system where the LMO decides if a costume is acceptable for inclusion in the 501st was created when the legion was smaller, and then radically updated by Anderson along the way in 2016. Given our growth, if you feel that there may be a better process I invite you to contact your GCO or DL (both of your reps have access to council) to propose an amendment to the operating protocols. 
     
    The question becomes... How do we move forward?
     
    My suggestion is to start a thread of all the potential new to the legion costumes or major edits to existing ones and start discussing them as early as possible. I'm happy to start it. I'd prefer a collaboration from the get go to avoid where we are now with this costume. 
     
    I totally understand the anger and frustration. It's a crappy situation. Let’s work together to avoid it in the future. 
     
    Thank you,
     
    —Eric
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    Eagle got a reaction from Angelus in Sith Eternal Officer   
    I'm genuinely curious, what CRLs did the LMOs pass unfairly that is leading everyone to believe this isn't fair?
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    Eagle reacted to lantern2745 in Sith Eternal Officer   
    Me again.
    And the personal attacks need to stop.
    Let's stick to facts.
    "Oh that's rich Jeff, you started with nuking the LMOs" I can already hear some say.
    I came in hot, but what I said (other than expressing my disdain for the Army CRLs) was factual.
    The "back rule" isn't a rule, it's more of a suggestion.
    And it gets applied unevenly.
    But not maliciously so.
    Let's table the name calling portion of this dumpster fire, and figure out why the LMO team doesn't think there's enough reference.
    - Jeff
     
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    Eagle got a reaction from AlphaChaos13 in Sith Eternal Officer   
    This is quite the conundrum, however I agree with the LMO team on this one. I'm getting a kick out of people saying certain LMO's don't understand these costumes, they do. From what I've seen, most of these LMO's have worked on far more complex costumes. At the end of the day, it's just looking at photos and writing details into a CRL; they understand these costumes. 
     
    I've been following this build since it started. While staff may have never been notified about the decision that this wasn't going to be a CRL, we should have seen it coming. We knew early on that we lacked reference photos. Stephanie and others have done a terrific job, but surely they knew the risk of this not becoming a CRL due to lack of reference. Silver lining, they have an awesome costume they can wear to cons now! We have the same issue with the Solo Navy trooper and grey ANH officer, very little refences, yet people are working on a CRL, someone should warn them it may not happen. I think as a group we need to start tempering our expectations, just because its on screen for a few shots doesn't mean it will become a CRL, we need more references! The 501st is a club that follows strict standards, its our claim to fame. We have to follow the references to uphold our reputation, or we risk tarnishing it.
     
    One argument I've been seeing is we should put out what we have and if we get new photos, we'll update the CRL; that's a slippery slope. If we start publishing half baked CRLs, the standards will keep dropping for every CRL after.
     
    That's just my two cents.
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    Eagle got a reaction from OfficerPouty in Sith Eternal Officer   
    This is quite the conundrum, however I agree with the LMO team on this one. I'm getting a kick out of people saying certain LMO's don't understand these costumes, they do. From what I've seen, most of these LMO's have worked on far more complex costumes. At the end of the day, it's just looking at photos and writing details into a CRL; they understand these costumes. 
     
    I've been following this build since it started. While staff may have never been notified about the decision that this wasn't going to be a CRL, we should have seen it coming. We knew early on that we lacked reference photos. Stephanie and others have done a terrific job, but surely they knew the risk of this not becoming a CRL due to lack of reference. Silver lining, they have an awesome costume they can wear to cons now! We have the same issue with the Solo Navy trooper and grey ANH officer, very little refences, yet people are working on a CRL, someone should warn them it may not happen. I think as a group we need to start tempering our expectations, just because its on screen for a few shots doesn't mean it will become a CRL, we need more references! The 501st is a club that follows strict standards, its our claim to fame. We have to follow the references to uphold our reputation, or we risk tarnishing it.
     
    One argument I've been seeing is we should put out what we have and if we get new photos, we'll update the CRL; that's a slippery slope. If we start publishing half baked CRLs, the standards will keep dropping for every CRL after.
     
    That's just my two cents.
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    Eagle reacted to lantern2745 in Sith Eternal Officer   
    This is complete and utter poodoo.
    Not once was I (former DL) notified that this would not be accepted, or I'd have yelled from the top of this hill that I'll die on, that this was a bad decision.
    Mountain Trooper is based solely on a toy.
    Captain Cardinal is 90 percent based on a toy (that has the wrong helmet!).
    All the Spec Ops Army CRLs are based on crudely drawn comics, and look like bargain basement SWAT team members - which is why we didn't want them.
    95 percent of the clones died before order 66, thus shouldn't even be 501st.
    But because the back of a black costume isn't seen in full daylight, you're gonna nix it?
    This is precisely the flawed reasoning that made me vote NO for your ratification.
    - Jeff
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    Eagle reacted to AlphaChaos13 in Sith Eternal Officer   
    Having full reference images of the back of a costume has always been a requirement, so I would have been surprised if this had been put through. Yes it sucks, but these rules are the basis upon which the 501st has been built as the premeire Star Wars costume club. I have seen characters from the original trilogy who were denied because of this, only to have an obscure behind-the-scenes reference photo be tracked down decades after the movie was released! Accuracy is what we are built on, and you can't have accuracy without references. I realize that people will be disappointed by this, especially the person who put the costume together. That said, it isn't right to take it out on the LMOs. They are following the rules.  
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    Eagle reacted to DarthAloha in Sith Eternal Officer   
    Bob, Kalani et al,
     
    Apologies for how long this has taken. I'm the only person to blame for that.
     
    At this time this costume does not have enough references to be included in the 501st's roster. Specifically the back view is lacking.
     
    Every LMO team has had to make this same determination for an uncountable number of costumes. It is not one that has ever been taken lightly. Our goal is for members to build the most accurate costumes possible. Having a clear view of front, back and sides of the screen used costume is one of the 501st's core tenets.
     
    This is the second time around for this costume. Last year's LMO team came to the same conclusion. Sadly this was never documented since it allegedly occurred in an ephemeral Facebook chat. 
     
    If I had to make a wild guess maybe development of this CRL continued after the previous team's ruling on this costume? I can't say because that was then this is now. It was a different LMO team and a different IOC command staff.
     
     
     
    The comment was more about future costumes than this. The Sith Eternal Office ended up being a kerfuffle for sure and I'm hoping to prevent such things moving forward. 
     
    I alluded to this in my previous post, but it is imperative that detachments reach out to the LMO team before CRL development, and certainly before a member decides to build a costume. We receive emails and messages from detachments asking this question on a regular basis. 
     
    Some of the onus is on the LMO team to keep up with the ongoings on this forum. I intend to fix that part of it personally. What we want to prevent is detachments merely throwing a CRL over the wall at us for approval. My preference is for the LMO team to be involved in (or at a minimum aware of) the development of a new CRL. 
     
    I intend to follow this forum and keep up with the goings on here on a regular basis. Along with the detachment leadership communicating with us as soon as about possible new CRLs I believe we can prevent what happened here in the future. 
     
    In the coming days I'll look through these threads and attempt to compile a post with an up to date list of new CRLs or amendments to current ones. Then we can work the list together from there. 
     
    Thanks again for your patience,
     
    -Eric

     
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    Eagle got a reaction from MissFallenSith in CosplaySky Cossky CAP   
    20eyesdesign on etsy makes hats out of the CosplaySky fabric.
    https://www.etsy.com/listing/197982530/star-wars-imperial-officer-caps-501st?ga_order=most_relevant&ga_search_type=all&ga_view_type=gallery&ga_search_query=officer+hat&ref=sr_gallery-1-1&organic_search_click=1&col=1
    That's where I got mine. 
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    Eagle got a reaction from chasetyree in CRL: Stretch panel on boots?   
    To add to what Kman said, strech panels are also not level 2 or 3 approvable. If your wife plans to aim for higher approval, I would consider buying custom boots from someone like crowsprops. It would probably be cheaper than buying riding boots and having them altered, plus they will be more accurate!
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    Eagle got a reaction from TK7892 in CRL: Stretch panel on boots?   
    To add to what Kman said, strech panels are also not level 2 or 3 approvable. If your wife plans to aim for higher approval, I would consider buying custom boots from someone like crowsprops. It would probably be cheaper than buying riding boots and having them altered, plus they will be more accurate!
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    Eagle got a reaction from WhiteWalker in Welcome to Ask an Advisor   
    Hello,
    I wouldn't recommend printing anything for your officer. For not a lot of money you can get proper metal bits that will look way better. Vetted vendors like Alay and Philoprops are who you want.
     
    As for your fabrics you want medium or heavy gabardine, colors will depend on your costume. Black and white are easy, but for the line officer you want an olive drab color. Patterns can be found on the forums, just type the phrase "pattern" into the search bar and you'll find lots of threads. If you decide to buy a uniform I recommend wampa wear.
    If you have anymore questions let me know!
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    Eagle got a reaction from Palpatiny in approved   
    Congrats!
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