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    Officer - Mimban Lieutenant CRL Update Proposal

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    Posted

    Alright gang!

    Okay, here is what I think can be changed.

     

    The name.  I actually like the idea of calling it, "Imperial Army Officer: Mimban".  Not a big change, but it seems to fit well.

     

    The rank bar entry.

    Lvl 1

    •  Wearer may use any Imperial Army Rank bar as seen in Solo (single row)
    • Translucent plastic tiles mounted on a metal bar and worn on the left side of the upper chest. 

    Lvl 2

    • Must use Army Lieutenant (2 red tiles followed by 1 blue) or Army Major (3 red tiles followed by 2 blue)

     

    Lvl 3

    • Must use Army Lieutenant (2 red tiles followed by 1 blue)

     

    Trench coat entry

    Lvl 1 unchanged until last bullet point

    • Collar may have a brown fur (or faux fur) collar lining. 

    Lvl 2 unchanged

     

    Lvl 3

    • Collar must have a brown fur (or faux fur) collar lining. 

     

    I believe this is holds to the spirit of what is being discussed.  It doesn't address wearing the coat open, as (unless I missed something) the reference for that was from Rogue One, not Solo.

    This would also let someone wear a Solo Captain's rank bar at level one, which I think is fair.

    What does everyone else think?

    Also, the question raised within the CRL Team was will we need to add a photo of the Major rank bar.  I think we would want to.  If anyone has one made (with the larger R1/Solo buttons) and wants to send a photo we can move forward.

     

    - Jeff

     

    Excellent news!

     

    Thank you!

     

    Point on wearing the coat open though - the Major is wearing the coat open when he gets blown up. There are several screen shots to that effect in the CRL discussion - there are shots of it being open from Rogue One - which I believe I posted because the lighting was better to see the structure of the coat.

     

    :)

     

    Overall tho I’m happy that so many of my recommendations were adopted :) thanks for taking the time to review this.

     

     

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    Officer - Mimban Lieutenant CRL Update Proposal

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    Do we have any pictures or better evidence as to what the back of the armor looks like? I certainly don't think it was the same respirator bit, but I'm curious how much different it was.


    No - there are no current pictures of the back of the armor. As we never see the officer armor worn without the trench coat - I believe the consensus is that you can do whatever - there are lots of pics of the back of the officer armor on my build thread and Kevin’s.


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    Officer - Mimban Lieutenant CRL Update Proposal

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    Any thoughts on making the code cylinders match the regular line officer ones, re: silver vs. brass clips for different levels of approval?
     
    E: What I mean is, brass or silver for L1, then silver-only for higher levels?


    That could be one of the things factored into the re-write - good suggestion


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    Officer - Mimban Lieutenant CRL Update Proposal

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    [mention=9352]SNK[/mention]:  The CRL Team is reviewing this proposal again. There's a good chance many of the proposals can be implemented, but we will confirm later.
     
    Meanwhile, because Legion databases are still locked, post-election, and the new LMO teams can't even START working on the backlog until March 1 when the transition switch is flipped, it is likely to be at LEAST March 10 before anything can actually start moving on this, even if everyone here was in complete agreement. The Detachment staff does not currently have the power to make ANY changes, nor can the Legion staff review any of our proposals until they're back up and running.  So please be patient while the Legion-level people get their bearings.
     
    Once the wheels are moving again, things can start happening.


    Sounds like a plan.


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    Officer - Mimban Lieutenant CRL Update Proposal

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    Posted · Edited by SNK

    Now that elections are over and we have a new Command Team can we please re-visit this?

    To recap what I I think we are all advocating for (amending what I started with):

    1. A generalized Mimban Officer CRL that allows for any SOLO rank variation (Captain and Major specifically - but allowing others) for LVL 1 approval - in keeping with what seems to be the other officer CRL's that are not face characters.

    2. That the LVL 2 Certification be left as is.

    3. That the Lt. Bolandin replication be a LVL 3 Certification (fur collar, clipped code cylinders, rank on trench coat, scarf, etc.)

    Thanks!

    Officer - Mimban Lieutenant CRL Update Proposal

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    Posted

    Actual CRL title is Officer: Mimban, so seems it could be open to other ranks pretty easily  

     

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    It may have been edited to just say “Officer - Mimban” on the site - but when you click on it - it still has the original title.

     

    And (as an aside that should probably be fixed soonish too) when you click on the “gallery view” link - it shows costumes and reference images for the Social Officer CRL.

     

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    Officer - Mimban Lieutenant CRL Update Proposal

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    Just discovered Mimban attire in Captain Kosh, in the game SW: Commander.DDjcr7g.jpg

     

     

    Mimban uniform - but that is not a Captain rank he’s wearing - it looks like ESB rank - but Captain there is only 3 across - by an older rank chart I found that is General rank.

     

    Curious - who publishes that?

     

    Edit: Disney Interactive published it. Thanks Disney for further clouding the field :P

     

     

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    Advice on finding/creating Rain Poncho? (For Line Officer)

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    Forgive me if I'm wrong, but I saw the poncho as an option on the CRL: http://databank.501st.com/databank/Costuming:ID_imperial_officer
    Would it still be viable? Not for submission, but just for wearing? Thanks.


    The description says it’s black - probably an unintentional carryover from the Staff Officer CRL.

    I don’t think we have seen a line officer with a poncho yet - only the trench coat.


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    Officer - Mimban Lieutenant CRL Update Proposal

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    I don’t know why that posted twice.

     

    Edit: I guess it didn’t and that was Tapatalk acting a fool - well it’s probably for the best.

    Edit Edit: because this is bothering me that the post was accidentally deleted. 

    Several things: 

    First - I have twice asked why the references that I have brought before you are not good enough - and why they do not meet the "being considered on a case by case basis" as indicated in the approval criteria. I *have* provided text with images. If you are looking for "mug shot" clear images - we have ascertained that those do not exist - which should activate the "case by case" clause in that approval criteria you posted. 

    Second - Raising Doubt? We have the goggles - an item literally ONLY seen on Beckett - approved as an optional item in the CRL - but his armor, his hat, his trench coat, his rank bar (aside from being Captain rank) that are literally the SAME as those of other imperial officers - and those are the things that are raising doubts??? The armor passes muster on screen with the LT - and the text confirms its origins as genuine. I don't know how much clearer we can get. :-/ 

    As far as replicating the blast holes - no - I would not do that for the same reason that I would not wear Beckett's holster rig and sidearms - I am not attempting to do Beckett's character - I am advocating for an Imperial Army Captain. The rank exists - or Beckett would not be wearing it - and the armor obviously doesn't come with holes in it - I fail to see why that is controversial or why that is something that should have doubts cast upon it. 

    Third - the major is identified as a major in the canon text - he is identified as a major in the script - he is identified as a major by Han - we can see his rank bar in lightened screen shots - and the 501st reference material on ranks give us the "clear" shot of what the rank looks like. I don't know why that is controversial either. 

    Both ranks are seen on screen - both ranks are confirmed as genuine in the text - and the request that the collar fur be optional unless replicating Lt Bolandin specifically is supported by several screenshots.......not to mention the precedent inherent in the AT-AT Commander CRL that has yet to be addressed at all. 

    Im talking in circles - and like I said - Im frustrated by the lack of answers as to why exactly what has been provided is not good - or doesn't meet the "case by case" threshold - or why a hardline is seemingly being adopted here as to proof.

    Im signing myself out of this. 

     

    Officer - Mimban Lieutenant CRL Update Proposal

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    Posted

    What is on screen is what we base the costume on this is a Solo costume, as for me not allowing it's the Legion that does not allow it, we also don't go by what designers say, again we are aware there were other ranks mentioned but no clear references have been shown 06a2216a9f0e3ce124c6e280edd31fbe.jpg

     

     

     “Costumes based on text descriptions only.........”

     

    They are not based on text descriptions only. The text confirms what is seen on screen.

     

    The uniform Beckett is wearing is genuine - there is nothing to differentiate it from any other imperial officer save his holsters - and it passes the “in your face” check of LT Bolandin on screen. The rank is seen on screen.

     

    The Major is wearing armor and a trench coat. The text confirms that he is a major - Han confirms he is a major to Beckett - and the 501st’s own rank chart shows us what the rank bar looks like. The rank is also seen on screen - the lightened screenshots show the bar on his armor.

     

    If I may indulge the court - it seems *very* curious that nobody has a problem with the goggles being part of the CRL (seeing as they are only worn by Beckett and NO OTHER officer seen on screen - since we obviously have a problem with Beckett not wearing a “real” uniform) - but somehow it’s completely unreasonable asking for two optional ranks to be added and the fur to be optional (unless replicating LT Bolandin) - especially since the ranks are seen on screen and backed up by a canon source........and the only character seen wearing fur on his collar is the LT - again backed up by multiple screenshots.

     

    I don’t get it - I guess I’m missing something.......unless this CRL is going to be a face character now?

     

    Sorry.

    I think I’m going to step away from this now - I’m slightly frustrated.

     

    Maybe someone else can pick it up - maybe not.

     

    Unless there is anything in the Making of SOLO book (will that be sufficient evidence - not being seen on screen?) - I guess I got nothing else.

     

    That text you posted says that *ideally* clear front and back shots should be available - there are no clear shots available here - only lightened screenshots and canon references to fill the gaps. Additional material may be examined on a case-by-case basis - says it right there.

     

    And we are going to ignore the precedent raised by Kevin regarding the AT-AT Commander CRL?

     

    Thanks everyone who weighed in - I’m personally dropping this - at least for the time being.

     

    Someone else can carry on if it pleases them - but I would appreciate the TPTB addressing the concerns raised here if possible. I guess I’m not good at “shut up and color” - character flaw - I would like knowing why these references are not good enough for next time.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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    Officer - Mimban Lieutenant CRL Update Proposal

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    Just a heads up forget R1 as that's not the movie anyone should be concentrating on, also as I have stated clear references are needed. Text in a book can't be used  

     

    The R1 pictures were provided to show clear shots of the trench coats in better lighting - they are the same coats. Pretty sure one of the costume designers confirmed that - I can look up the conversation if that helps.

     

    And you’re not allowing context from the CANON novelization of the movie!?!

    It’s not some former expanded universe piece - it’s literally the book commissioned by Disney to go with the movie........

     

    But that’s fine.

     

    The Major is referenced by Han in the movie when he’s talking to Beckett about the Forward Operations area.

     

    Summarized thus:

    Beckett: “Forward Operations must be that way”

    Han: “It is - but the Major said we were going that way.”

    Beckett: “you go that way you’re going to die”

    Han: “That’s what happened to the Major.”

     

     

     

     

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    Officer - Mimban Lieutenant CRL Update Proposal

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    Posted

    9 minutes ago, Wombat said:

    These are pictures from the Solo book, and may have appeared in the movie, but without them on film or the corroborating info like the name in the book they arent good for this crl is what I'm understanding?  I love how this green one has a rounded collar, which is a variation we have only seen in black so far.

     If you take a look at the images I posted in the first post - the Major is wearing that same coat as he is wearing in the SOLO Art Book (and his name is confirmed in the canon novelization) - you can clearly see the curved collar as its turned-up and silhouetted against the sky.

    Interesting.

    Officer - Mimban Lieutenant CRL Update Proposal

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    He’s not - and I don’t really consider either of those images a good reference for this purpose - neither of them are wearing armor in this picture - they are just in standard uniforms with trench coats.

     

    I also don’t recall the Commander on screen or being mentioned in the novel - I’d have to skim it again though to be sure.

     

     

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