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regarding the non saga version 3 and 4....
Version 3 i (now dress uniform V1 )n summary is the non saga officer with the navy helmet, but it is different than the OT, because the belt boxes are smaller, the gloves are different and the rank bar is different.
Version 4 (now dress uniform V2) will add trousers with no rank bar
Is that correct?.
I was getting pictures of them now
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5 minutes ago, chicken45 said:
I'll defer to @buckrogersbarker on that one. I copied the JRS text and honestly don't remember what's up with it because it was more than a week ago and have a bad short term memory (LOL).
Do you mean version 4 of the current IND Dress uniform? Because version 3 is the version with the four belt boxes.
OOOH Good catch! Yep! As seen here:
Sounds like non saga INT Dress will be a V1 and V2 tab.
@chicken45 @buckrogersbarker I mean this area of the jumpsuit. This is different than the area of the jumpsuit of the pilot, which has the nylon webbing, but that one is not seen in the other jumpsuits. If you go up, you will see that my first picture included the webbing area, but then I got another as the one seen in the films, without it.
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The other comment is that version 3 is different, since that one is from the OT, so the beltt, belt boxes, code cylinders and gloves are different.
I can get a picture with the non saga to have everything using the non saga helmet
What do you think about?
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@chicken45 @buckrogersbarker They look great!!, my only question is regarding the jumpsuit. It says "A piece of 1.5” nylon webbing is used to cover the front zipper", but actually the zipper is covered for a piece of fabric similar to the jumpsuit. The nylon only covers the pilot one.
What do you think about?
Thanks again!!
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Thank you very much!!
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Hi everyone,
I want to work on this costume, but before going ahead, i would like to get your opinion about this.
The black officer suit is seen less frequently than the Olive green in "rebels" and the main character is Brom Titus. Wanted to ask you...if this character is seen using a black suit, could we extrapolate that other officers could use the same costume. BTW, there is another character using it (picture attached), but I am asking to know if this could be a generic Rebels costume also and not only a Brom Titus one.
I know that there is a CRL written for the Olive green one, but this one does not have a lot of differences (but has some)
The main characteristics are:
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Hat
- Without the concentric stitches on front bill extends
- rebels code disk
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Tunic
- Without Princess seams on the back
- With a vertical seam in the middle of the back
- Without the dart in the front
- with only one seam on inner arm for sleeves
- Without the circular seam
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Pant
- With smaller flares and cartoon similar
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Belt
- Has the specific buckle, the code disk goes not right in the middle. It is higher than the OT and the snap is located higher too
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Code cylinders
- Would depend on the character, but they are rebels style and with red cap
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Boots
- Ridding boots
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Gloves
- Black, short, without stitches on the back
- Rank bar depending on the character
I have some pictures that I have attached to confirm this. Do you think that this could be make?
Thanks again
Jean
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3 minutes ago, tacblue said:
Not to worry, my ladyfriend here who is about 5'3 is wearing my Moncal "larger size", and it works fine. Albeit I did adjust the shape a bit from stock to better match the shape of ANH/ESB helmets. The new "larger" Moncal helmets are a vast improvement over the older version 1 "smaller" helmets. I have both, and the original "small" just has a lot of problems with its angles, the depth of the main bowl, etc., resulting in that odd "bobsled helmet" shape" when viewed from the side. The newer version corrects some of these issues, though still not perfectly. As mentioned however, the "larger" version is the one used for the current movies, and according to Moncal, will also be used for any media going forward, so you really can't get much more screen - accurate than that.
Yes, i totally agree. Having this helmet and probably for level 3 will make this costume very accurate.
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Regarding the helmet….for this costume I used a helmet from mon cal since it was the helmet used in R1 (they made it for the film). Actually, they have 2 options and the bigger one was the one used in the film. It is bigger than the one that I have for my OT navy.
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5 hours ago, chicken45 said:
Technically the concept of the gauntlet area is correct, but the material is different in the R1. I have attached this picture
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On 9/19/2022 at 2:09 PM, chicken45 said:
Here's the draft CRL for this non saga INT.
My notes are in orange. Please provide input!
Required Costume Components
The following costume components are present and appear as described below.
Imperial Navy Helmet MOSTLY THE SAME. CAN WE REUSE EXISTING PICS AND TEXT? - For more detailed images, see the Imperial Navy Helmet Detail page.
- 12" (304.8mm) diameter black plastic dome.
- Front and back covers with holes over-laid onto dome, holes are approximately 7/8" to 1" (2 to 2.5 centimeters).
- Back "wing" extending about 4" (101.6mm) below the rim of the dome at the sides and about 7" (177.8mm) at the back, encompassing about half the circumference of the helmet.
- Ear blocks with a bend to match the flare of the "wing" over each ear at the front ends of the "wing" with geometric circle patterns in the top half and a spaced out area of "dimples" in the lower half.
OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): - Helmet must very closely match the details seen on screen, to include accurate “ear” details, and look proportionate to the wearer’s head/body.
OPTIONAL Level three certification (if applicable): - Must exactly match a specific helmet worn on-screen.
Flight suit THIS TEXT WAS COPIED FROM THE JRS R1/SOLO TIE PILOT. WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT THE GIGLINE STRIP. IT MAY BE A L3 JRS REQUIREMENT. DO WE WANT TO ALIGN TO THEM TO MAKE IT EASY FOR FOLKS TO START OUT WITH A NON SAGA CREW/INT AND USE THE SAME JUMPSUIT FOR A NON SAGA TIE PILOT? - One piece flight suit is made out of nylon.
- Grey or Black thread may be used
- Mandarin collar with a chevron shape.
- A silver embroidered or silver PVC Rogue One Imperial cog emblem, on a black background, is present on both shoulders.
- Both Shoulder cogs must have one spoke aligned with shoulder seam (one cog spoke in the 12 o'clock position)
- Emblems are aprox 3” diameter
- On the left forearm there is a compad pocket, with no flap and a window in it.
- Size might vary slightly to match specific compad.
- On the left bicep, below the cog emblem, there is a code cylinder pocket with no flap, and vertical stitching dividing it into pen sleeves.
- A piece of 1" nylon strapping is sewn below the pen sleeve openings and is the same length as the top of the pocket.
- A piece of 1.5” nylon webbing is used to cover the front zipper
- The bottom front corner of the pocket is cut off at a bevel on the side pointing in view direction, with the broader upside forming the border of the pen sleeves.
- The right sleeve has a cargo pocket on the bicep below the cog emblem.
- The pocket has a small chevron flap.
- Two (2) large chest pockets and (2) large front pockets below the belt, without any zipper or flaps.
- Both top chest pockets and below the belt pockets touch the edge of the belt area
- Two (2) leg pockets with chevron flaps, similar in proportion as the right arm sleeve pocket.
Size may vary - (Typically the width of the front pockets equals the width of the leg pockets).
OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): - Shoulders are slightly padded.
- The front zipper velcro closure is left over right.
- Imperial cog patches on the shoulders are PVC rather than embroidered.
- Suit uses dark grey thread
- Code Cyl pocket has six sleeves. three short, one long and flat, and the last two pleated.
OPTIONAL Level three certification (if applicable):
* Shoulder cog emblem is 3.1 inches.- Front zipper cover has grey stitching on border, and five black vertical stitches.
- Pleated area with grey stitching on back of each shoulder, starting next shoulder/arm seam and curving to side of suit under armpit.
Belt SAME AS EXISTING - The belt is constructed from a non-textured leather or a leather-like material.
- Approximately 2" (50.8 mm) in width, up to 3" (76.2 mm) is acceptable.
- There are no loops on the belt.
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A single large snap or rivet is visible approximately 1" (25.4 mm) from the buckle.
- The belt may be worn with the snap to the right or left of the wearer.
- The buckle is constructed from a horizontally brushed metal, or metal looking material.
- The buckle size is approximately 2 ⅛" (66.7 mm) high and 4 ⅛" (104.5 mm) wide with 0.5" (12.7 mm) radius rounded corners.
- Buckle is adorned with an Imperial Code Disk at the center.
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- Please refer to the Imperial Buckle reference page for information on accurate and inaccurate style buckles.
OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): - Belt is made of leather.
- Snap is worn to the left of the wearer.
- Buckle has a slight horizontal curve.
Boots SAME AS EXISTING? - Calf high black leather or leather like material.
- Free of laces, decorative stitching, buckles on the instep or any other embellishments.
- If seams are present on the shaft they are at the rear only.
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Boots may have a single adjustment strap at the top outside of the boot, with the buckle no wider than 1".
- This need not be functional.
- Jackboot buckles should not be shiny/can be painted dingy grey or gun-metal color.
- Hobnails may be present on the front of the jackboots.
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Zippers on the inside of the boot are acceptable, so long as they are concealed.
- If the zipper is not covered by vinyl/ leather, it is painted black.
- German "jack boot" style boots are most canon.
OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): - Boots are made of leather.
OPTIONAL Level three certification (if applicable): - Original German jack boots (or “Knobelbechers”) or an authentic replication thereof.
- Boots have the top adjustment strap.
Optional Accessories Items below are optional costume accessories. These items are not required for approval, but if present appear as described below. If adding in an accessory after initial approval, the item still needs to be submitted to local GML for approval before use.
Code Cylinders -
Three may be worn.
- Rod Style: Machined aluminum rod with flaring disc detail at top.
Compad COPIED FROM JRS - Rectangular communications pad, with buttons and detailing as shown, on a grey or gunmetal background.
- Both paint options are acceptable.
- Comm pad is contoured slightly to wrap around the arm.
OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): - Compad is un lit.
Black Gauntlet Gloves THIS IS THE EXISTING INT GLOVE USED ON THE OT FLIGHT SUIT AND V1,2 AND 4 OF THE INT DRESS UNIFORM. - Black, leather or leather-like, enclosed fingered, non-textured, fitted gauntlet style.
- No buckles, straps, or decorative stitching are permitted.
OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): - Gloves are made of leather.
Belt boxes (Non-Saga style) - Dimensions are approximately 2 inches (50.8mm) wide by 3 inches (76.2 mm) tall by 1 inch x (25.4mm) thick.
- Two boxes to be worn vertically, one each on either side of the belt buckle.
OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): - Belt boxes are made of metal.
Thank you very much Josh for writing this!!! @chicken45. @buckrogersbarker
I have some comments...
1-Regarding the helmet. I agree with including more options for the helmet. This helmet is bigger than the one that I have for my OT costume and it is the one from the maker that was used in the film. I agree that this could be level 3
2-Regarding the jumpsuit. After looking a lot of pictures and trying to find if the jumpsuit of the pilot and the others was the same, I found out 2 things and please, if someone has a different picture, let us know.
-The anterior front zipper covering is only seen in the pilot. So, including that one as an standard for the navy and the crewman in my opinion is not correct
-Pleated area with grey stitching on back of each shoulder, starting next shoulder/arm seam and curving to side of suit under armpit is defined as level 3 for the tie pilot, but looking carefully, this detail seems to be seen in every jumpsuit. I understand that when the tie pilot CRL came out, this characteristic was not defined and most makers made the jumpsuit without it, then when it was found, probably was added as level 3. So, this is something that has to defined.
The question is if under this pleated area in the jumpsuits actually sold there is a black fabric that covers the zipper with the aim of removing it and use those jumpsuits for all the costumes.
3-Regarding the belt, according with the CRL, it has grooves and I think that it should be the non saga belt
4-Regarding the gloves. It seems that most of them are using gloves. This ones are different than the ones used in the OT. I would add the extra piece of leather in the gauntlet area.
The other question is if this costume will be the same for the navy and crewman of they will be 2 separate CRLs as the OT. I included the 2 options. I also could get pictures as the other version of navy trooper with the non saga officer suit and the helmet, so including the 2 navy options and then the crewman
Thank you very much again for the big help on this!!!
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Sorry for this very late question but most of the officers have specific symbols in the hat and jacket (neck).
Is it possible to add that option to this CRL?
Thanks
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Hi,
I got pictures of the jumpsuit and helmet. Let me know if you need any other picture.
Thanks
@buckrogersbarker @Cookiedala @shadan
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Just got pictures again with better resolution (unedited to keep the high resolution), Will get pictures of the helmet and jumpsuit today. Thanks
@shadan @Cookiedala @buckrogersbarker
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On 6/27/2022 at 11:00 AM, buckrogersbarker said:
I think there could be. I am going to compare the text of both costumes "Rogue One and the new gunner" and see how it aligns.
Hi Robert and Daisy, this is an update of this costume. @Cookiedala @buckrogersbarker
I got a new jumpsuit that can be used with the R1 pilot, but also with the navy trooper and the crew. Also updated the pictures with this new one and included the 2 versions, using the navy helmet and the officer one. This jumpsuit also includes the updated version with the pleated area on the back of each shoulder as seen in the pilot and the crew in Obi Wan.
Please, let me know if I have to change anything else. Thanks
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I compared them, and they are the same. Actually the same picture
3 minutes ago, buckrogersbarker said:I think there could be. I am going to compare the text of both costumes "Rogue One and the new gunner" and see how it aligns.
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@Cookiedala @buckrogersbarker It seems that the LMO accepted this jumpsuit in the gunner The Mandalorian. Do you think that could be some grade of standardization between the detachments regarding the jumpsuit?
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11 minutes ago, buckrogersbarker said:
that is actually added on for the Rogue One TIE suits.
It would be nice to have that as a removable accessory so costumers can add it so they can do their TIE pilots and not have to commission an entire new flightsuit.Hi Robert, Yes, I agree with you. Reviewing my flightsuit, it doesnt have that option because behind this area there is a zipper. So, considering this and looking at all the flightsuits, as you say, this would be the "basic" (navy, crew) and on top of it they added that part for the tie pilots. I also would like to add that in the posterior part of the shoulders there is another area (also seen in Obi Wan) that should be added. That area is considered level 3 in the JRS (included a picture here).
Having a flightsuit with 2 options would be great to use with all the costumes but that will need some velcro that will modify the anterior view of the navy. I have been waiting the other flighsuit some months..., but this discussion will help to understand it. So, we will have the correct one for these ones. Have a great day!!.
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3 hours ago, Cookiedala said:
It looks like the zipper facing doesn't have any stitching on the Navy trooper, because it's equally shiny to the rest of the jumpsuit.
Thank you!!. I think that I have to change that area for the same fabric
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Hi everyone, This is an update.
I took some pictures and also included the helmet and compared this one from R1 (bigger) with the other that I use for my OT navy. Also included the hat with the disk without a notch.
My question as we have discussed previously is the central strip. In this one the zipper is covered, but it is difficult to see exactly if it has a vertical stitching. It is based on the tie pilot jumpsuit.
What do you think about?, all the comments would be highly appreciated
Thanks
@buckrogersbarker @Hoda @Cookiedala
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Hi Robert,
It was great to see you at Celebration.
Sounds great to have the clearance from the LMO.
I have not seen any picture, but it could be present in the 2nd picture that I posted above. Will see this again today.
Otherwise I can remove it.
I also will include a picture with the R1 hat, so we have the 2 options.
Thanks again for your help on this
Jean
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18 hours ago, ShadowStriker said:
Hi there, Your pictures that you gave us look similar to the Version1 of the Navy Trooper in our CRL. I think the Center strip is not a problem. I do think that you should lightly iron your jumpsuit. that's just a suggestion.
Hi, I think that is different than that version (OT version 1), considering that the jumpsuit is a R1 version, the belt has grooves, the belt boxes are smaller. The compad is different. I also used another helmet, similar than the used during the film, considering that was made by FAC, like this one, bigger.
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I do not know why I cannot post other pictures but I included this link
Thanks
Jean
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Regarding the helmet....
I have been talking to Cal (hope he is better) because he made the helmet for R1. According to him, the helmet used in R1 was bigger and got one, I compared my 2 helmets (smaller that I use for the OT and this new one bigger for R1)
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Good morning everyone,
I have been looking at the different versions of the R1 navy trooper and would like to ask you your opinion about this one.
This version is seen firing the death star.
So, this is a different one than the OT, the jumpsuit is different and it is like the one used by the tie pilot , smaller belt boxes, belt with grooves, gloves have a split.
I also see 3 code cylinders in the left shoulder.
My questions would be the anterior center strip that is seen in the pilot jumpsuit but it is difficult to see here. It seems to be below the belt but it is difficult to see. The other is the compad, which is very difficult to see here
I will post my pictures below
Imperial Navy trooper R1
in New CRLs - Completed
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Yes, I can get one with the Kenobi configuration V1.
My question is regarding R1, V2. This is the complete picture of R1 (that also can get) with trousers and pilot boots. In the case of R1, I think that we should include the option of having (or not) the rank bar.
Could you post the last picture again please?. I cant open it