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On 27/05/2017 at 2:14 AM, Bcarp100 said:
Hey guys! Ive been working on a code disk that I think might be slightly more accurate. Its turned out of aluinium, one of the things that I noticed on the animated belt is that it does not appear that the center is a hole that goes all the way through. The metals match in color very nicely, let me know what you think!
Would be interested in seeing.
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On 14/07/2017 at 0:24 AM, Mitthrawnuruodo said:
Erich I love this idea!
It looks like a much more simplified version of Lobot's head gear.
I'm curious how different the headgear is from Tseebo's, the rodian from season 1. That guy has a lot more screen time and would probably be much easier to find pictures of that are better lit.
Good pickup - and yes!!!!
The headgears like everything in Rebels is a animated stylised version of Lobots AJ^6 Cyborg Construct.
This is my go to place for Rebels Screencaps - http://screencapped.org/animation/starwarsrebels/
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On 03/05/2017 at 8:10 AM, jdsehrhardt said:
from some of the screen shots from the finale of season three, Thrawn's armor and helmet looks like it is a closer match for the AT-AT Commander helmet and armor with smaller changes. Those changes being color, a few button designs and the layout of things. I figured we could assume its closer to that since in the episode ***spoiler alert*** he is seen leading the ground assault in which it they have both AT-DPs and AT-At walkers, but it appears he moves in with the AT-ATs. Just from what I've been looking at.
Thrawn's Helmet is defiantly AT-DP versus the traditional AT-AT Commander, with the exception of the goggles and goggle step clips. The armour is similar but unfortunately quite different to the AT-AT Commander and the AT-DP Armour.
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We could probably do both? The only thing that would change (I think) would be removing the hair and appearance bits along with adding a section regarding the various hat and collar insignia combinations.
That part would need to be almost like the officer configurations page with a screen grab to show each one.
There are a lot of pages to each episode of Rebels on the screen grab site to go through. Someone would almost need to rewatch the first 3 seasons to get names and ranks too.
For now I guess, I'll press on with the Konstantine CRL, and once I have all the parts in hand get pictures submitted.
Once this one is done and official, we can copy paste the wording (much like I did from the official Pryce CRL to start this) and have the database of collar and hat combos ready.
Also, if it isn't a thing yet, we'll need a complete listing of the rank bars used in Rebels too.
Rewatch Star Wars Rebels - Season 1-3, sound like a great challenge!
On the hat, keep in mind the hat is completely different- • Front flap taller, than back flap
• Flap curvature has changed
• Flap has partial top stitching and isn't bound
• No top stitching on bill of cap
• Crown is seamless and curved (may be too hard to do)
• Rebels era code disc
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Could we make this a Generic CRL, as I think this would be more productive and set us up for the future better.
Rebels' Era Line Officer
(then down the bottom place a seperate section for Konstantine)
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On 12/04/2017 at 8:13 PM, eliste said:
Interesting they've kept the Rebels belt!I think it's an interpretation of the Rebel's uniform, especially considering that the disc and stud on his belt are centred (whereas Thrawn and Armoured Tarkin's are off-centred to the top)
On 12/04/2017 at 8:37 PM, Exaldear said:But the rank badge eugh!
Agree - too much agreement
On 13/04/2017 at 1:38 AM, DarthFunk83 said:Very cool poster. That's going to be the back of the Celebration exclusive Thrawn HC.
Thrawns collar on the book cover and that poster is also open, whereas in the show its closed.
The other difference is that what we have been referring to as the Rank Insignias are metal pins on the Book, where as they are printed/transferred in the TV Show.
I think it was Kris who pointed out to me that what we are doing here is writing a CRL for the TV show and not a CRL of an Interpretation of it.
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I hear you - I can't find home in Australia
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Has anyone tried to make the cadet's rank bar?
This is the picture from the CRL - http://databank.501st.com/databank/Costuming:ID_Imperial_Cadet
So yes it has been made
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Jeff posted some code cylinders, one of which was Rebels style. It's a prototype only though.
It is a prototype currently and as he says needs a little bit more work - but looking promising!
I know that One Stop Officer Shop is also looking at these too
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Just because there isn't a supplier doesn't mean people can't make it themselves.
Totally agree with you!
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The cap that I'll use for the Rebels style code cylinders will be solid like in the screen grabs. I'm working off the same pictures.
And the more I look at it, I agree that the clip isn't quite right. A good first version, but the proportions are off.
How about the tops in relation to OT style?
Great first version!
I'll let someone else comment on the OT versions - I have my head stuck in the Rebels' Era at the moment
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Hey Jeff,
Just some feed back on the Rebels' Era Code Cylinders there are two things I would change for accuracy. There are some really good references in the episode Through Imperial Eyes
The Clip
to my eyes the clip seems narrower and a bit more elongated before the "indent"
The Cap
The cap on top is solid versus the Original Trilogy ring
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1 hour ago, Dimentex said:
Gloves ONLY with armor, you say?
*hrms* Thrawn may be back on the table.....
Yes - GLOVES!!!!
Gloves where talking off the Grand Admiral CRL originally because Thrawn was never seen wearing them (unlike all the other Imperial Officers) but in the Season 3 finale he does whilst wearing armour!
The biggest Issue will be that as we don't have a source for accurate Grand Admiral Armour there is no assurance that my proposal of modified would be accepted (most likely it won't) so Gloves are most likely not going to go be an accepted item until soon makes Grand Admiral Armour (there are a few interested in doing it)
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Hi Lynn,
We do have a thread dedicated to the Rebels' Era Belt Buckles if that helps you - Rebels' Era Belt
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In a blink a you miss it, look what's sitting on Thrawn's Desk in Episode 4 - Hera's Heroes....
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Season Three finale has just been posted
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1 hour ago, asheneyed said:
So I'm curious if there's a type of paint that would compliment the tone of the unpainted buckle- like Alclad silver perhaps? Our local Phasma uses this on her kit and the payoff is quite metallic.
Possibly - I'll have a look at the holster stud when i get it.
1 hour ago, asheneyed said:And, curious if we want to seek after the more matte effect or stick with the pure metal look even though the buckles in the show don't come off as very reflective, since the reference photos for Thrawn seem to indicate they should all be the same. His tends to get a reflectiveness (shine in the animation) every once in a while from screencaps I've checked over, but they barely bother to make Pryce's even a different shade from her tunic....
Interesting observation, and one I hadn't made.
I think it is the challenge of creating real world costumes from animated sources and making a judgement call. The way I see it, is that they are marked as being made of metal so should have a metal appearance.
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That would explain it!
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3 minutes ago, asheneyed said:
I'm interested in thoughts as well! A lot of the belts don't look very shiny in the show, to the point that in a number of screenshots it even blends in with Pryce's uniform, for example.
Good Point - I hadn't thought about it like that.
My concern will be consistency and how they match with the Rank Bar, Code Cylinders, Belt Stud, & Holster Stud (for Grand Admirals).
I've ordered the holster stud from Tiggwolf Creations, which has the same painted treatment - so I'll have a look then
Just putting Thraws Concept Art here as it owns that all are marked as metal and the same colour
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So Tiggwolf Creations has now released a Belt Buckle, the only question I have is the paint on it versus just the natural metal.
Rebels' Era Grand Admiral Trawn CRL discussion (inc generic Grand Admiral)
in New CRLs
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First off, a BIG APOLOGIES, for being away lately, a combination of a new job (that firewalls the IOC Forums) and heading up the Star Wars costume clubs booth at Oz Comic Con Melbourne (our largest convention of the year here).
Secondly, a big thank you Cari for all you have done on this and taking ownership of it. I also offer an apology to you for not being around during the final push on this
As most would know I’ve been a strong advocate not only for this costume but also the Rebel’s Era costumes. For the majority I love this CRL and it has picked up on a lot of the issues I have had with the direction of the Rebel’s Era CRL’s. I do have a few sections that I would like to discuss before this is finalised.
So that everything doesn’t get lost in a sea of text and reference photos, this is a summary of what will follow:
I believe from reading that the Level 1 Requirements is demarcated for the LMO Team (Cari) and the Level 3 Requirements are demarcated for the IOC Staff (Mark & Kris). I am more than happy to ether answer any questions that this raises either here on the IOC forums, or direct.
Battle Gear
This is officially referred to by LFL as Imperial Officer Battle Armor on StarWars.com, so I think we should at the least be referring to this as “Battle Armor” if not “Imperial Officer Battle Armor” similarly how we have the Imperial Officers Pistol.
I think there are a few inaccuracies in the proposed CRL text for the armor and I while I realise that text isn’t really finalised until someone submits an Armoured Grand Admiral, I also think it is important to have the wording of a CRL as accurate as possible it being published on 501st.com
The armour and helmet while easily seen as Snowtrooper or AT-AT Commander, is actually closer to the AT-DP Armour (Imperial Combat Driver) which is also Rebels' Era. The Helmet is actually identical to the AT-DP Helmet minus the faceplate, and the Back-Plate is also the same except the base has been elongated. The Front-Plate is where the biggest difference is, and granted that its similar to the Snowtrooper or AT-AT Commander, but it is also quite different.
Helmet
Thrawn is actually seen with two helmets in Season Three. The time is in Hera’s Heroes in a blink and you miss scene where it is sitting on Thrawn’s desk, the second is of cause in Zero Hour – Part 2 where he is wearing it. Both Helmets are different, the first is identical to Tarkin’s and the second is a remodelled Grand Admiral’s version.
Helmet
For 501st approval:
Chest-Plate Armour
The Chest-Plate while similar looking to that of General Veers, is still quite Different:
I think current wording has the Front and Back Plate has got a little scrambled most likely due to being edit multiple times.
Chest Armor
For 501st approval:
For level two certification (if applicable):
The Back-Plate Armour is almost identical to AT-DP armour except lower section has been elongated to mach the length of the front plate.
Back Armor
For 501st approval:
For level two certification (if applicable):
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Tunic
Without opening Shoulder-gate again to much, I really can't support the concept of "emphasised more than any other seam" line in this! It's non-sencical and will result in some pretty awful uniforms as we have already heard with people suggesting piping, etc... I can partly see where this has come from but I don't agree with the presumption that people have made, and would argue that the seam is no more pronounced than other major seams like the vertical seams!
The following is a LFL sourced picture (I have the original 30.3mb PSD file, should you wish Cari, Mark, or Chris) so sorry about the size of the picture but it's important that I place it here at next to full resolution in order to show that the vertical seam and the should cap seams are pretty similar. My theory is that this seam is different from what we are use to that it stands out in peoples minds, but don't take my word for it rewatch the TV show and you will see that a lot of the seams on ALL the officers are pronounced but we justify it in our heads!!! Mark & Kris, could we please delete the first line of Level Three for the Tunic?
Boots
I have to admit, I didn't pick up on the Shin Armour and literally zoomed into the picture above to see how Kallus Shin Armour enter the CRL. I think this is a Animation Stylisation issue and I think the idea was for Boots and not for Shin Armour. There is quite a difference between the quite obvious Shin Armour of Agent Kallus, the Imperial Combat Drivers, and others versus the Boots that are worn buy quite a lot of characters on both sides. I think the other give away is that the Shin Armour on characters such as Kallus is a clear different surface and sizing versus say Officer Boots. My other argument is that by having both the requirement of "tighter" and "No visible seams" if made these would be impossible for a human to put on. Again Mark & Kris, could I ask that the entire Level 3 section for boots be removed.