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    Rebels' Era Grand Admiral Trawn CRL discussion (inc generic Grand Admiral)

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    On 14/01/2017 at 6:45 PM, Jay009 said:

    I'm not sure about the rank bar being 1/4 inch thick. Made of acrylic, it's gonna be really heavy with all the rank tiles on it.. I'm keeping an eye on your build but I honestly think that's impractically wide to translate into a real world item even if we're trying to duplicate the animated series look. I propose 1/8 inch for both the bar and the plaque and I think a magnet backing would help add the depth to the plaque that we see.

    I'm not convinced, you are going to want to use two magnetic backings anyway

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    On 14/01/2017 at 6:35 AM, lantern2745 said:

     

    Governor Pryce's Rank Bar
    For 501st approval:

    • See the Imperial Rank Bar page for more information.
    • Worn on the left side of the tunic over the heart.
    • Rank consists of colored plastic tiles mounted on metal bar.
    • Each bar is 1" (25.4 mm) height.
    • Rank tile dimensions are 1/2" (12.7 mm)width x 3/4" (19 mm) height and about 1/8" (3.2 mm) depth.
    • Tiles are mounted with 1/4" (6.4 mm) spaces between them.
    • Rank tiles are translucent.
    • Rank bar exactly matches the color pattern used in the references.
      • Six blue tiles on the top bar.
      • Three red tiles followed by three amber tiles on the bottom bar.

    For level two certification (if applicable):

    • Rank bar is one metal strip with four rounded corners (.25" radius), NOT two separate bars as with OT rank bars.

    With the Rank Bars being unique from the OT rank bars, I think we should be aiming to use the correct era bars versus OT versions.  This is a Rebels' Era officer, so should have a Rebels' Era Rank Bar as Lvl 1.

     

    Also the Amber Tiles are Yellow in Rebels

     

    On 14/01/2017 at 6:35 AM, lantern2745 said:

     

    Belt

    For 501st Approval:

    • The belt is constructed from a non-textured leather or a leather-like material.
    • Approximately 2" (50.8 mm) in width, up to 3" (76.2 mm) is acceptable.
    • There are no loops on the belt.
    • A single large snap or rivet is visible approximately 1" (25.4 mm) to the left of the buckle.
    • The buckle is constructed from a horizontally brushed metal, or metal looking material.
    • Buckle has a raised metal circle

     

    For level two certification (if applicable):


    For level three certification (if applicable):

    • Two grooves run horizontally along the belt, roughly 1/4” from the top and bottom of the belt.

     

    On 14/01/2017 at 8:39 AM, eliste said:

    I don't know where this came from. There is no evidence of lines around her belt in any image I have seen of Pryce.

    This is one of the best lit photos of Pryce and there is no hint of lines around the belt.

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    On 14/01/2017 at 10:01 AM, lantern2745 said:

    Regarding the belt, I left the lvl 3 bit about it having grooves.  I can't find the discussion at the moment, but when they were working on the Agent Kallus CRL it was agreed that the Rebels officers have a slight change in texture to the belts at the top and bottom.  It was then agreed that the best way to indicate that was by using grooved belts, so it was lifted from the approved Agent Kallus CRL.

     

    On 14/01/2017 at 1:24 PM, eliste said:

    Maybe it's on Kallus, but there's no evidence for it for Pryce. I would take it out and am going to continue to push to do so.

     

    I'm in total agreement with Eliste on this one - Kallus may have groves (personally I can't see it, but I haven't looked too hard on him) but Pryce defiantly doesn't have any grove.

     

     

    Rebels' Era Grand Admiral Trawn CRL discussion (inc generic Grand Admiral)

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    Posted · Edited by Walker
    Double post, so reusing for an update

    I've been reading the Governor Pryce CRL WIP and trying to re-reading this Grand Admiral CRL discussion with fresh eyes.

     

    Thinking of making the following amendments:

    • Removing "Gabardine style weave is most accurate." from Tunic, as due to it being animation we can't actually see a weave 
    • Removing "Gabardine style weave is most accurate." from Trousers, as as above
    • Removing "Exact replicas of English riding (dress) boots or Equestrian boots." from Boots - Lvl 3, for consistency with Governor Pryce and again due to animation style changes this from OT Uniforms

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    4 hours ago, eliste said:

     


    TBH, it hasn't been a part of the costume that I've spent a lot of time looking at. There is a rather in depth discussion on it going on in the Thrawn threads ATM, I think. Maybe for now we just say "Rebels-style code cylinder with silver clip"?

     

     

    This is the picture I made over in the Thrawn CRL discussion.

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    I've had no comments on it yet, and I'm hopefully talking with a local Garrison member (in Australia) at a build day next week end to discuss the practicalities of the design.

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    On 09/01/2017 at 8:23 PM, LicorneAilee said:

    About the waist seam, I would like to give my opinion, as a professionnal costume designer.
    After doing 4 Admiral / Grand Moff ( and 1 Krennic ) costumes for clients (that were all validated in the French Garrison) and planning on two more this year (subjects for validation as well), I can assure you that the waist seam is really important in the construction of the jacket, when one desires to have it fit one's body really well.
    If you remove the possibility of this line in the construction, then you expose yourself to receive many validations requests with jackets not fitting the candidates, and especially, with pleats around the waist, under the belt...
    I do not say it impossible to make. But it requires a good knowledge about costumes construction, and I know not everyone want nor can afford to pay for a professionnal seamstress to make their costume upon order (and it's perfectly understandable :)  ), I know many of you order from cosplaysky, and have it modified afterwards.

     

    I would have to say that it is the princess seams that are more important than a circumference seam in the fit for this jacket, as that is where all the shaping is.

     

    These are my pattern pieces that I am currently working with, and as you can see there is quite a lot of shaping in seams that appear straight.  If you look carefully you can see where a waist seam would go.

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    If you go back to the EU Grand Admiral CRL, you will notice that the Waist Seam is a Level 2 item (so not required for basic approval).  In fact when you look at the example photo, there is no Waist Seam used.

    Grand_Admiral_Tunic.jpg

     

    I'm still proposing, to not have the Waist Seam mentioned in the CRL (which would mean that if you wanted to you could due to it being hidden by the belt)

     

    On 09/01/2017 at 8:23 PM, LicorneAilee said:

    Another point troubling me, is the gold shoulder pad, or epaulet.
    For the moment, you say it has to be metal. But again, not everone has access to that material, nor someone being capable to make them upon order.
    I would like to suggest the possibility of leather : I already used leather parts on some costumes : you can choose the thickness of it easily, 0.5mm, 1mm, 2mm... according to what you think is best for the character. You can paint it without any problem with simple acrylic painting. You can either glue it to the jacket (neoprene glue) or make it removable with "hook-and-loop" if you want to clean the jacket without the leather part. The leather, even 2mm thick, remains quite flexible, thus preventing the costumee to be hurt (as he could be with metal parts) and it won't break. And if you don't have easily access to leather around you, just ask your local shoemaker/cobbler if he has spare parts : the shoulder padds are not that big, he could provide you with two pieces like that, for a faire price :)

     

    On 09/01/2017 at 10:13 PM, Exaldear said:

    I would add for the epaulets. I would have gone with sintra myself (expanded pvc foamcore). Cut, heat, paint, done. Many mandos (myself included) have used that for their armour.

     

    Paint that gold, maybe a clear coat to add metalic sheen, done.

     

    So yes. I agree, metal requirements I think can go.

     

    Keep in mind that, its a Level Two item, and not a basic requirement - I would be more than happy to move this to a Level 3 requirement?

     

    If we got rid of the requirement of metal parts due to it being animated, I would also be calling in the question of whether or not Leather is needed for items such as Boots.

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    On 07/01/2017 at 1:26 AM, nocternus said:

    There is a difference on the rank bars the tiles are not translucent they are solid colours 

     

    On 07/01/2017 at 10:26 PM, kevinlorn said:

    Well the diagram presented by Walker seems to be fairly good to me.

    And indeed the tills are of solid color.

     

    So unless anyone else objects, I'm leaving the Level One requirement of a Rebels' Era Rank Bar as is!

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    I have a question here about the rank bars ?

    Since i am also planning to work on a Rebels version here at the French Garrison, I am very interested by this matter.

     

    The rank bars in rebels seems fairly different, they do not look to be double rows but one single block with round corner.

    I was also wondering how we would treat the code cylinders ?


    On the Rank Bar - if you have a look above (post #43) there's a diagram that I drew of the Rank Bar. I'm just waiting on comments from people on them.

    On the Code Cylinders - I noticed this too yesterday that they are also different, ironically they are now closer to the chalk holder method.


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    Posted · Edited by Walker

    1 hour ago, Exaldear said:

    I would say keep the waist seam. Due to it being hidden by a belt it won't matter, and I believe it helps with the overall fit.

     

    Talking with a few other sewing peeps, where not sure how much effect a waist seam will actually have, that can't be done in the front and back princess seams.

     

    Personally I think it will flow easier with out, and reduce the risk of a visible waist seam due to belt slipping under the weight of the blaster/holster.

     

    I'm going to start patterning today, wish me luck

     

    Build Thread found here - Walker's Grand Admiral (Rebels' Era)

     

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    On 18/12/2016 at 3:03 PM, Walker said:

    Tunic, White

    For 501st approval:

    • Fabric is a medium weight suiting material exactly matching the pants.
      • Gabardine style weave is most accurate.
    • Tunic is double-breasted with a left over right closure on the tapered yoke.
    •  Yoke comes up across the shoulder to the top shoulder seam.
      • There is no fitting dart in the yoke
    •  The standing collar has square corners and is about 1.25" (31.8 mm) tall.
      • Collar closes snugly and includes a modesty panel behind closure.
      • Collar edges are closed with two eye hooks.
    • There are code cylinder pockets on both outside panels of the jacket from about half way between the top and bottom on the arm hole.
    •  Sleeves are long, with curved shoulder cap and without additional decoration, cuffs or buttons.
    • Sleeves contain (2) seams.
      • One along the bottom (cuff to armpit) and one distinguishing the shoulder cap.
    •  Tunic is constructed with no top-stitching (stitches visible on the exterior surface of fabric)

    For level two certification (if applicable):

    • No Side Seams
    • There is a seam running the entire circumference of the tunic, dividing it along a line hidden by the uniform belt.
    • The back of the tunic has princess seams that run vertically to the shoulder seam, meeting the front yoke seam

    For level three certification (if applicable):

    • Tunic is secured on the right side by snaps or buttons.
      • Not hook and loop fastener (Velcro).
    • There is no noticeable top-stitching visible anywhere.
    •  A lining is sewn in.

    So what did you do Christmas Night Ashley - I laid awake thinking about a CRL and Pattern Pieces!!!

     

    My next Question is - Is a Waist Seam (the one that is hidden under the belt) needed on an animated Officer?

     

    Personally I don't think so, as these are a legacy from the ANH - ROTJ Officers due to the actual costumes being made with them and in the animation style these wouldn't be drawn in due to being under the belt

     

     

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    15 hours ago, Walker said:


    Serious question, does anyone know someone that could 3D design the blaster for printing?


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    6 hours ago, Exaldear said:

    I could try next week. Got some time off work.

     

    2 hours ago, MichaelK said:

    I could also give it a go next week, do we have a rough length to shoot for? Would all one piece, or many smaller pieces be preferable?

     

    That would be Awesome Ross & Michael!

     

    I will admit that 3D Printing is a bit out of my depth - so no idea about one piece versus smaller pieces 

     

    Here are two other photos of Thrawn with his Pistol drawn hopefully help you with working out size, detail, etc...

     

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    These are the smaller versions of the photos, I do have the originals which are 2200x3000 and 4000x6000 (bit big for forum posting) but PM me if they would help.

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    17 hours ago, Exaldear said:

    I would say. Either Embroidered/Heat printed or Metal pinned insignia

    If pinned insignia is used is used it must be silver in colour and have a beveled look to it.

     

    16 hours ago, MyWholeTeamsDead said:

     

    Agreed.

     

    Done - I have updated the CRL Post up the top.

     

    Have created a new section, instead of being called "Collar Detail" I've called it "Rank Insignia"

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