Mitthrawnuruodo

Wanted to update you guys.
 
CRL is IN PROGRESS! 
 
Ill have it sent in for final review by the end of the day

You two are going to be perfect for the CRL, glad to see we're getting this rolling.

So far of the 3 deleted scenes I've seen they've all been really good.
The other 2 did a bit of character building that were fun, but this one has some pivotal info for Han and the story. Would have been way more fun seeing this this just getting a few lines of dialogue.

I thanked Alex for making this video, then scolded him for only mentioning Scanning Crew and forgetting about the Bridge Crew

I thanked Alex for making this video, then scolded him for only mentioning Scanning Crew and forgetting about the Bridge Crew

So what do we still need to make this thing active?

Looking good!

I know text does not convey tone so I apologize if any of this comes off angry/argumentative/etc.

So basically those few of us approved as Science Officers would technically already be approved as Service Dress.
I'm fine with the Science Officer being a 3rd tab under the same CRL since it specifically calls for the white cuffs while the other two do not.
 
I've seen tons of sloppy looking officers, people who looks like they crumpled their uniform into a ball and threw it in a bag, forgot about it for a month, and then threw it on last minute. Hat, no hat, knee high boots, ankle boots, that's not going to change someone not taking care of their uniform.
 
The Service Dress uniform is probably going to be the easiest costume to get people into the legion. It's going to be a lot of people's first costumes. And probably even more "comfy con table duty" uniforms. It's going to offer people a chance to get an officer suit without having to break the bank finding shoes if they can't fit into a stock size. This is the reason why I want to see this CRL happen so much. I know of at least 6 people in my garrison and countless more that will buy this costume and join the IOC the minute this CRL goes green. Why don't they join right now? Because they can't find the knee high riding boots!
 
Is being called a Nazi any better or worse then just looking like a guy in a black suit? 

The uniform was seen on screen, so by the rules of the 501st we can replicate it, create a CRL and wear it, it doesn't (or shouldn't) matter if anyone thinks that this uniform doesn't fit into the type of the classical Officers.
Just because someone wants to wear this uniform doesn't mean this person is lazy or wants to make something cheap. A good high quality Officer uniform is always far away from being cheap, no matter which style.

I do not think that the possibility of a few people being too lazy to look for riding boots should stop us from making the Service Dress Uniform CRL or to include this uniform in the already existing Staff Officer CRL or Line Officer CRL, depending on what we will do in the end. Why should we punish the people that would like to wear an officer, but cannot find riding boots or jackboots in their sizes because of a possibility? Nobody shoots their dog because there is a possibility that it will get cancer or rabies.
 
If I could wear riding boots I would. I wear jackboots that are 4 sizes too big for me with 4 pairs of insoles, 2 pairs of thick socks and an added piece of leather so that I can wear my bridge crew. I am pretty sure that other people also try to do everything they can to wear a costume that they like. Unfortunately, that is not always possible.
 
There are 2734 officers in the 501st Legion, but only 12 of them are Imperial Science Officers and that CRL has been up for a while. There are also only 137 Warrant Officers and 143 Imperial Security Bureau Officers. The majority of our officers wear uniforms with riding boots even though that there are CRLs without them available. Why should that suddenly change just because we add another option to our CRLs? I'm pretty sure that most people will continue to buy riding boots. They are just too iconic.
 

I couldn't agree more to these two statements. I've seen enough sloppy officers, which does not depend on if Staff/ Line/ or Science Officer. If someone doesn't take care about his uniform, it doesn't matter which uniform he has hanging in his wardrobe, it will always look sloppy.
 
And especially for troops that last more than two days, like my last troop in Nuremberg, it is very comfortable to wear Chelsea Boots instead of Riding Boots for one day. Also if you attend a wedding, like I did at the begin of september, it looks not so military like it would with riding boots, but you are still representing the Empire in an very well dressed way.
 
So yes, these configurations should definitely happen. Now with the new CRL style perhaps like it was mentioned before, one version Line Officer Dress Uniform, one version Staff Officer Dress Uniform and the Science Officer as third and very specific version. I don't think we should get rid of the Science Officer CRL, we tend to create new CRLs but not to delete old one, except when they are really outdated. And I can totally live with the "no hat" thing, Admiral Gorin in R1 didn't wear a hat either, as did Tarkin, General Romodi, Yularen, Prye, Krennic for most of the time, and so on.
 

All valid point too my friend 

Different points of view I guess.
 
I'm seeing it as the perfect con suit, the "I've been trooping all morning and I'm tired, but I want to be suited up in something comfortable to do table duty" Chelsea boots are more comfortable then jack boots, I'm sure most of us will agree to that 
 
Would I tell someone just looking to join the legion to do this costume first right off the bat? No.
Would I tell someone just looking to join the legion to do this costume first if they want to be an officer but they're struggling to find the boots, and I mean really struggling not "I spent an hour on ebay and couldn't find anything less then $50" struggling - yes
 
Right now anyone can join the legion as a Science Officer, how would joining in this Service Dress be any different (other then having more options on rank bars and not just the 1)?

My tone came off reasonable because I've learned to just spell out "I'm not angry fighting, just passionately arguing" it makes things a lot easier haha
 
Yes Crewman is a great entry costume, because crew turn into TIE, Gunner, AT-AT Drivers, etc... (I honestly wish I would have just started there myself)
But jackboots can still be problematic. I'm going to use a very close friend of mine as an example. She's 5'4, has tiny feet (as in can still wear larger kids size shoes), but has huge calves. Her proportions make jackboots near impossible without having to go with the custom made route. She's approved with two masked/helmeted legion costumes, but really wants a costume without a mask/helmet that she can be comfy in and do table duty when needed. Service dress is the perfect costume for her. She can sit, she can get accurate boots that fit, she can support her Empire!
 
This is a reason why I want this costume to happen so much. For people like this.

Different points of view I guess.
 
I'm seeing it as the perfect con suit, the "I've been trooping all morning and I'm tired, but I want to be suited up in something comfortable to do table duty" Chelsea boots are more comfortable then jack boots, I'm sure most of us will agree to that 
 
Would I tell someone just looking to join the legion to do this costume first right off the bat? No.
Would I tell someone just looking to join the legion to do this costume first if they want to be an officer but they're struggling to find the boots, and I mean really struggling not "I spent an hour on ebay and couldn't find anything less then $50" struggling - yes
 
Right now anyone can join the legion as a Science Officer, how would joining in this Service Dress be any different (other then having more options on rank bars and not just the 1)?

Different points of view I guess.
 
I'm seeing it as the perfect con suit, the "I've been trooping all morning and I'm tired, but I want to be suited up in something comfortable to do table duty" Chelsea boots are more comfortable then jack boots, I'm sure most of us will agree to that 
 
Would I tell someone just looking to join the legion to do this costume first right off the bat? No.
Would I tell someone just looking to join the legion to do this costume first if they want to be an officer but they're struggling to find the boots, and I mean really struggling not "I spent an hour on ebay and couldn't find anything less then $50" struggling - yes
 
Right now anyone can join the legion as a Science Officer, how would joining in this Service Dress be any different (other then having more options on rank bars and not just the 1)?

@Mitthrawnuruodo your tone is perfectly reasonable.
I feel like the best entry level costumes are our very own Crew costumes. Bridge or Scanning.
But I do understand your point.
And sloppy officers are a problem already, you're right.
Healthy discussion. I like it!

I know text does not convey tone so I apologize if any of this comes off angry/argumentative/etc.

So basically those few of us approved as Science Officers would technically already be approved as Service Dress.
I'm fine with the Science Officer being a 3rd tab under the same CRL since it specifically calls for the white cuffs while the other two do not.
 
I've seen tons of sloppy looking officers, people who looks like they crumpled their uniform into a ball and threw it in a bag, forgot about it for a month, and then threw it on last minute. Hat, no hat, knee high boots, ankle boots, that's not going to change someone not taking care of their uniform.
 
The Service Dress uniform is probably going to be the easiest costume to get people into the legion. It's going to be a lot of people's first costumes. And probably even more "comfy con table duty" uniforms. It's going to offer people a chance to get an officer suit without having to break the bank finding shoes if they can't fit into a stock size. This is the reason why I want to see this CRL happen so much. I know of at least 6 people in my garrison and countless more that will buy this costume and join the IOC the minute this CRL goes green. Why don't they join right now? Because they can't find the knee high riding boots!
 
Is being called a Nazi any better or worse then just looking like a guy in a black suit? 

Tarkin - No hat
Science Officer - No hat
This Service Dress uniform would be an off duty no hat scenario. I could see this being the proper Imperial attire for something like a wedding or funeral. But that's just speculation and kind of irrelevant.
 
If you want to wear the hat with this that seems like a local call on your local command staff. Something that would be fine for the weekly events but for the big LFL invitation events you'll need to match the CRL 100%

Gents, I don't think anyone is being argumentative here. I know everyone is passionate about new costumes, and just want them to be introduced to the legion in the best way possible. I think its worth continuing a bit of healthy discussion on these, for many various reasons, before they hastily get tossed together for a new CRL or an addition to any existing one. 

I know text does not convey tone so I apologize if any of this comes off angry/argumentative/etc.

So basically those few of us approved as Science Officers would technically already be approved as Service Dress.
I'm fine with the Science Officer being a 3rd tab under the same CRL since it specifically calls for the white cuffs while the other two do not.
 
I've seen tons of sloppy looking officers, people who looks like they crumpled their uniform into a ball and threw it in a bag, forgot about it for a month, and then threw it on last minute. Hat, no hat, knee high boots, ankle boots, that's not going to change someone not taking care of their uniform.
 
The Service Dress uniform is probably going to be the easiest costume to get people into the legion. It's going to be a lot of people's first costumes. And probably even more "comfy con table duty" uniforms. It's going to offer people a chance to get an officer suit without having to break the bank finding shoes if they can't fit into a stock size. This is the reason why I want to see this CRL happen so much. I know of at least 6 people in my garrison and countless more that will buy this costume and join the IOC the minute this CRL goes green. Why don't they join right now? Because they can't find the knee high riding boots!
 
Is being called a Nazi any better or worse then just looking like a guy in a black suit? 

I'm going to see if she's like Beetlejuice...
 
DAWN DAWN DAWN...

What? Oh sorry. Thought I heard my name. 

This is a very common problem, and will help out a lot of people. It’s one of the reasons why so many of us are trying to make it happen.

This is a very common problem, and will help out a lot of people. It’s one of the reasons why so many of us are trying to make it happen.