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Hello. Your neighborhood LMO is here with a new chapter of "Update That CRL".
Pursuant to the overall activity of general review and updating where needed (noted here) ... I've performed a review of the Admiral Daala - Flightsuit CRL.
Rather than post the CRL in entirety below, I will say that the only changes (outside of spelling, etc) is:
1. On the flightsuit, allowing both darker olive and black piping.
2. Minor language smoothing for clarity purposes.
These edits have not been performed yet. I will be making them live November 9. If there are any further updates to this specific CRL desired, post here.
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Hey there David. I answered your question on the Legion thread as in regards to the applicant
This CRL is now live. We just announced its re-release a little bit ago. (In between you posting there, and me posting in reply there and me posting here
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https://www.501st.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=29&p=1225264#p1225264
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Updates on this CRL are now live. They should reflect on the publicly facing page within a couple hours.
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The updates are now live. They should reflect on the publicly facing CRL within the next couple hours
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Hello everyone ... Friendly Neighborhood LMO here ...
Along with Juno's Rogue Shadow updates, it makes sense to fold in any needed updates to her Dress Uniform CRL.
Here is the planned new text. THIS IS NOT LIVE YET. Not really much to mention here, other than to shift language to provide consistency with Juno's other CRL, and to remove references to ANH and the other OT movies in her tunic entry.
If there are no objections, this will be made live along with Juno's other CRL update. Please provide feedback Imperial Hat, black
For 501st approval:- Fabric is a medium weight black suiting material matching the pants and tunic.
- Base of the hat is conical, with a crown approximately 4" (101.6 mm) tall.
- Front and rear "flaps" overlap on the sides and are approximately 4" (101.6 mm) high.
- Front bill extends approximately 3" down
- Front bill may be decorated with concentric stitches, but this is not required.
- Imperial Code Disk is positioned in the center of the front vertical flap; disk may be notched or notchless.
- Dimensions of the hat are are relative and proportional to the costumer.
For level two certification (if applicable): - Code Disk has no notch detail.
Hair Style
For 501st approval:- Hair is blonde; achieved via natural hair color or a naturally styled wig.
- Worn in a French twist with tendrils framing each side of the face.
For level two certification (if applicable): - Hair is pale to platinum blonde.
Gloves
For 501st approval:- Open back, full-fingered driver gloves of leather or leather like material.
Tunic, Black
For 501st approval:- Fabric should be a medium weight suiting material exactly matching the pants and hat.
- Tunic is double-breasted with a left over right closure on the tapered yoke.
- Yoke comes up across the shoulder to the top shoulder seam.
- The standing collar has square corners and is about 1.25" (31.8 mm) tall, closes snugly and includes a modesty panel behind closure.
- There are code cylinder pockets on both outside panels of the jacket from about half way between the top and bottom on the arm hole.
- Sleeves are long, and without decoration, cuffs or buttons
- Tunic should be constructed with no top-stitching (stitches visible on the exterior surface of fabric)
- Hook and eye fasteners on the uniform should not be visible.
- Princess seams or bust darts to achieve a fitted appearance are permitted, though not required
For level two certification (if applicable): - Tunic is lined
Rank Bar
For 501st approval:- Worn on the left side of the tunic over the heart.
- Rank consists of colored plastic tiles mounted on metal bar.
- Rank tiles are 4 amber and 2 red (from left to right), made of some type of plastic (i.e. plexiglass, acrylic, etc.)
- Yellow tiles are not acceptable.
- Rank tile dimensions are approx. 1/2" (12.7 mm)width x 3/4" (19 mm) height and about 1/8" (3.2 mm).
- Tiles are mounted with approx. 1/4" (6.4 mm) spaces between them.
For level two certification (if applicable): - Rank bar dimensions are relative to the costumer (i.e. not excessively large, or too small for the person’s frame).
For level three certification (if applicable): - Rank consists of colored plastic push buttons mounted on a metal bar.
Code Cylinders
For 501st approval:- (2) code cylinders, are worn, one on each side of the tunic.
- Three styles of code cylinder are permitted, but the two cylinders worn must match each other:
- Modified Calk Holder: Silver "chalk holder" tube with a short clip. Top is colored Blue.
- Dosimeter Style: True Dosimeter with correct clip and Blue top.
- Alternate Style: Silver clip with no blue top.
Belt
For 501st approval:- The belt is constructed from a non-textured leather or a leather-like material.
- Approximately 2" (50.8 mm) in width, up to 3" (76.2 mm) is acceptable.
- There are no loops on the belt.
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A single large snap or rivet approximately 1" (25.4 mm) from the buckle is permitted but not required.
- If present, the belt may be worn with the snap to the right or left of the wearer.
- The buckle is constructed from a horizontally brushed metal, or metal looking material.
- The buckle size is approximately 2 5/8" (66.7 mm) high and 4 1/8" (104.5 mm) wide with 0.5" (12.7 mm) radius rounded corners.
- Buckle is adorned with an Imperial Code Disk at the center, which may be notched or notchless.
For level two certification (if applicable): - Belt is worn so that the top of the belt is exactly flush with the top of the trousers.
For level three certification (if applicable): - Belt is made of leather.
Trousers, Black
For 501st approval:- Fabric is a medium weight black suiting material matching the tunic and hat.
- Pockets are acceptable, although they are not visible with the tunic on.
- Pants are neatly pressed or ironed, without a center crease.
Officer Boots
For 501st approval:- Knee-high, black, lace-less, smooth non-textured, leather or leather-like material.
- There are no visible stretch panels, buckles, snap tabs, or decoration.
- Top of the boots are flat in style.
- Boots have conservative / flat heels.
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If zippers are present, they are hidden on the inner part of the boot shaft.
- Not visible from the front, side or back.
For level two certification (if applicable): - Boots do not have a zipper.
For level three certification (if applicable): - Boots are made of leather.
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You know ... that is an excellent point
Goes back to that balance between visual accuracy and actual functioning of the costume piece. Thank you for pointing that out -
Right. I am still unsure about that L3 bit for the hat. It's true to the reference, certainly, and to not have the decorations would be accurate. But were they supposed to be there and just not rendered? Or were they never there at all? Translating animated characters is definitely tricksy! Comparing against the game's concept art if I can find it would help, maybe.
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The discs are made with notches and without. Even in the movies some of the characters had notched disks, and some had notchless
If I recall, you can ask for a hat to be made with a notched or notchless disk ... Or just buy a pin that you can swap in and out.
The belt, even though I don't see a rivet in all the reference material, I am open to compromising on. Technically someone could just paint over the rivet. But then they wouldn't be able to use the belt for anything else.
Hmmm. I seem to remember another costume that had a similar quandary. I shall go look it up.
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Here is the proposed Update. THIS IS NOT LIVE YET
This proposal is made in mind to be more consistent in wording with other CRL's, an eye to the actual reference material, and hopefully clarifications made on things that may have been confusing, previously.
L1 Edits include: Removal of the concentric circles on the hat as required. Smoother language on hairstyle. Color of undershirt clarified. Clarification on length of jacket. Clarification on back seams on jacket. Clarification of gloves material. Addition of another style of code cylinder. Removal of the belt rivet as required. Clarification of type of boot top styling and heel styling.
If there are no objections or discussions on any further changes or the proposed changes, this will be made live in 10 days.
Imperial Hat, black
For 501st approval:- Fabric is a medium weight black suiting material matching the pants and tunic.
- Base of the hat is conical, with a crown approximately 4" (101.6 mm) tall.
- Front and rear "flaps" overlap on the sides and are approximately 4" (101.6 mm) high.
- Front bill extends approximately 3" down
- Front bill may be decorated with concentric stitches, but this is not required.
- Imperial Code Disk is positioned in the center of the front vertical flap; disk may be notched or notchless.
- Dimensions of the hat are are relative and proportional to the costumer.
For level two certification (if applicable): - Code Disk has no notch detail.
Hair Style
For 501st approval:- Hair is blonde; achieved via natural hair color or a naturally styled wig.
- Worn in a French twist with tendrils framing each side of the face.
For level two certification (if applicable): - Hair is pale to platinum blonde.
Grey Tank Top
For 501st approval:- Light to medium grey tank top style undershirt worn under the tunic.
- Undershirt has a straight or slightly rounded neck.
For level two certification (if applicable): - Undershirt is light grey.
Gloves
For 501st approval:- Open back, full-fingered driver gloves of leather or leather like material.
Jacket/ Tunic
For 501st approval:- Jacket is made of black medium weight suiting material.
- Jacket has a high collar.
- Breast panels present but folded back (or made to give the appearance of being folded back.
- 3/4-length sleeves
- Two princess seams or a center seam in the back to allow snug fit may be present, but are not required.
- Jacket length is such that the bottom edge stops right where the top of the trousers start.
For level two certification (if applicable): - Tunic is neat and snugly fitted to the costumer.
- There is no top-stitching visible anywhere.
- There is a lining sewn in.
Rank Bar
For 501st approval:- Worn on the left side of the tunic over the heart.
- Rank consists of colored plastic tiles mounted on metal bar.
- Rank tiles are 4 amber and 2 red (from left to right), made of some type of plastic (i.e. plexiglass, acrylic, etc.)
- Yellow tiles are not acceptable.
- Rank tile dimensions are approx. 1/2" (12.7 mm)width x 3/4" (19 mm) height and about 1/8" (3.2 mm).
- Tiles are mounted with approx. 1/4" (6.4 mm) spaces between them.
For level two certification (if applicable): - Rank bar dimensions are relative to the costumer (i.e. not excessively large, or too small for the person’s frame).
For level three certification (if applicable): - Rank consists of colored plastic push buttons mounted on a metal bar.
Code Cylinders
For 501st approval:- (2) code cylinders, are worn, one on each side of the tunic.
- Three styles of code cylinder are permitted, but the two cylinders worn must match each other:
- Modified Calk Holder: Silver "chalk holder" tube with a short clip. Top is colored Blue.
- Dosimeter Style: True Dosimeter with correct clip and Blue top.
- Alternate Style: Silver clip with no blue top.
Belt
For 501st approval:- The belt is constructed from a non-textured leather or a leather-like material.
- Approximately 2" (50.8 mm) in width, up to 3" (76.2 mm) is acceptable.
- There are no loops on the belt.
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A single large snap or rivet approximately 1" (25.4 mm) from the buckle is permitted but not required.
- If present, the belt may be worn with the snap to the right or left of the wearer.
- The buckle is constructed from a horizontally brushed metal, or metal looking material.
- The buckle size is approximately 2 5/8" (66.7 mm) high and 4 1/8" (104.5 mm) wide with 0.5" (12.7 mm) radius rounded corners.
- Buckle is adorned with an Imperial Code Disk at the center, which may be notched or notchless.
For level two certification (if applicable): - Belt is worn so that the top of the belt is exactly flush with the top of the trousers.
For level three certification (if applicable): - Belt is made of leather.
Trousers
For 501st approval:- Fitted black trousers matching the same shade of black as the jacket and hat.
- May be made from a stretch material or from the same fabric as the jacket.
For level two certification (if applicable): - Trousers are worn low on the hips.
- Trousers are tightly fitted to the costumer with no visible pockets.
Officer Boots
For 501st approval:- Knee-high, black, lace-less, smooth non-textured, leather or leather-like material.
- There are no visible stretch panels, buckles, snap tabs, or decoration.
- Top of the boots are flat in style.
- Boots have conservative / flat heels.
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If zippers are present, they are hidden on the inner part of the boot shaft.
- Not visible from the front, side or back.
For level two certification (if applicable): - Boots do not have a zipper.
For level three certification (if applicable): - Boots are made of leather.
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Received. Many thanks.
~C
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17 minutes ago, Motoss said:
Yet Brom Titus in Rebels is an Admiral...and wears a black uniform. Hard to keep straight when the canon is not consistent.
There are times when I really wish the collective we didn't try to make sense and head canon out of things that, by their own admission, was loosely done for appearance.
Nothing against those that enjoy doing so
Just not my particular cup of tea. I just want to enjoy the movie. Or comic. Or whatever.
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That might be an IOC member only link. All it says is that I am choosing Juno first for review.
You will know about any changes well before I publish them. I will post them here, first. Mostly, they look like semantics and L2/3 clarifications so far, but I am not done staring at references yet.
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Do you have AACC's that you want to show off? You are in luck! I am in search of pictures of Absolutely Awesome Code Cylinders ... each of the four accepted styles ... member owned.
They will be used in the IOC CRL's.
I know there are some Awesome ones out there let's see them! If you are modest, you can send them to me via PM
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Hello everyone ... Friendly Neighborhood LMO here ...
I am starting the review process mentioned here earlier in the week: http://www.imperialofficer.com/forum/index.php?/topic/4451-crl-suggestion-thread-please-read/&page=3#comment-115197
I'll be pouring over the references and making adjustments in the CRL, and it will, hopefully, in the end be clearer. I'll post up proposed edits before making them live. Just let folks know that the review process is starting
It is possible that new images may be asked for.
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I think @Bcarp100 also does Rebels bits and things.
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Received, thank you!
So, here is my thought. To tweak the semantics (not requirements) of the code cylinder text just a hair for clarity, and to update the image to show a great representation of each of the 4 allowed styles.
Costumers have a far better idea of what to aim for / make, and GML's have a better idea of how to judge. Both being visual creatures
Higher accuracy / looking-good-stuffs are then promoted, without actually being restrictive.
- GDMorti and DarthFunk83
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1 hour ago, Rhaethe said:
Can someone send me a nice picture of each of the following that properly represents what looks good for its respective "style"?
"Modified Style": silver "chalk holder" tube with short clip, top is colored Blue.
"Rod style": machined aluminum rod with flaring disc detail at top
"Dosimeter style": True Dosimeter with correct clip and Blue top.
"Alternate style": silver clip, no blue tip.
Thank you
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Let's refocus to the original topic of the ANH 451 style costumes, please.
Things that I need to fully ponder things through --
-- Is there a significant difference in the ANH build (not just the tunic) currently to warrant a new CRL?
-- Are there members with the costume currently?
-- Are all black officers in ANH in this style, and if so, is it okay to split the IN Dress, as well?
-- Does the DL okay it?
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Can someone collate a short text list of all the seen Line Officers in Rebels and their different rank/hat/collar insignia dealies, please?
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Double day update.
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Just now, GDMorti said:
I've had a look at the standard line officers, and there aren't too many differences if you were to avoid the toony look and recreate in real world terms. To the point where if you used existing gear you'd need to change nothing and therefore wouldn't be Rebels at all. You could stand alongside a Rebels Thrawn or a Pryce and you'd look.. ok? But if they'd gone for Toony then again we're mixing realms and it looks weird. It'd be fine on troops! But making room for someone to make a Rebels toony design to better match a Rebels face character would be cool I think?
There are plenty of differences if you go "full toon". Fabric colour, collar design, bars and belt, hat design and stitching, disc on the hat, straight rear tunic seam. The "generics" even wear their hats really far down so as to cover their faces, make them really generic! If we're being "me" levels of picky XDNot necessarily too picky. Those sorts of things are handled (a lot of the times) in L2/L3 higher accuracy detailing. Which, ultimately, is one of the reasons behind why one might want to make a particular source reference its own CRL series.
Which is pretty much what you're saying, I think.
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Can someone send me a nice picture of each of the following that properly represents what looks good for its respective "style"?
"Modified Style": silver "chalk holder" tube with short clip, top is colored Blue.
"Rod style": machined aluminum rod with flaring disc detail at top
"Dosimeter style": True Dosimeter with correct clip and Blue top.
"Alternate style": silver clip, no blue tip.
451 style uniform CRL
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I've been alerted, and can take it from here.
~C