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1 minute ago, mwilsen said:
Yes Patricia, thanks for the clarification. The ANH ISB and the Grand Admiral are not interchangeble. A little confusion since he never distinguished.
Matt
You are welcome. There has been quite a lot of confusion going on in this forum about different types of uniforms and the correct terms for them since Solo hit the movie theaters.
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29 minutes ago, Mitthrawnuruodo said:
I know optional hats for Line Officers has been brought up many times before.
While there are plenty of example of them without, there's more examples of them with. Every Officer in ESB and ROTJ has them and there's many in ANH and R1 that do.
I don't think we should be trying to change that CRL (yet), I think getting this one up first is a higher priority.
I do not think that we will get this CRL approved by the LMOs before we have good references from the Blue Ray. So we might as well take care of more issues while we are at it. If the hat has come up many times before then it was not taken care of the first time around or it would not come up again. Some would say that all the guys without hats are named face characters and only those can go without the hats. Many named officer do not have their own CRL. As far as I know, the guys in Solo are not named character. We need to set some sort of standard concerning hats or this will come up again and again.
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27 minutes ago, Steven said:
Good catch to bring Admiral Gorin up, and you are right, I also never saw a Staff Officer without a hat. But it would be interesting, if we can really make the hat optional for the Line Officer CRL.
I think it should be doable if we have enough references to prove that line officers did not wear hats all the time. In ANH we have all guys that were in the conference. In Rogue One, we have Grand Moff Tarkin, General Romodi and Admiral Gorin. If are not just talking about line officer we could also include director Krennic and Galen Erso. In Solo, we have the guys at the party. In rebels, we have quite a few officers that do not have hats on. For instance Grand Moff Tarkin, Colonel Yularen, Governor Pryce, Admiral Thrawn and Alton Kastle, the broadcaster on HoloNet News.
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39 minutes ago, bobafett4ever said:
This ^
What's seen on screen should trump everything, even if only seen once for a brief instance. Then we can go to VDs, costume designers, then non-canon material (video games [are are those canon - I never remember anymore], etc).
Remember the conference room scene from ANH. No one wore hats. Hats should have been optional from day 1 for any named Line Officer. I'm pretty sure the older, bald officer with 6 Amber badges in R1 didn't wear a hat either. I forget his name offhand.
Maybe when CRLs are cleaned up, this could be updated. Although I know I'm digressing.
As for a Staff Officer, I haven't seen one that I am aware of yet, clearly, that was without a hat. I'm trying to think in Rebels if one was seen, but I don't think so... even at the academy.
34 minutes ago, Mitthrawnuruodo said:R1 and ANH have many (more in ANH obviously) hatless officers.
Another named character that was in the conference scene in ANH and did not wear a hat at the time was Colonel Yularen. If I remember correctly he also does not wear a hat in Rebels. If I am not mistaken the guy that commended the star destroyer that gets another one pushed in his by a hammerhead corvette in Rogue One also did not wear a hat. I think we should make hats for line officers and ISB ANH optional when we clean up the CRLs. We have enough proof that they are not worn all the time. Unfortunately, I cannot remember ever seeing a staff officer without his hat.
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23 minutes ago, charlyselo said:
When I say staff or line officer, I'm referring to that kind of suit, not his job, hierarchical position, etc... That's why I'm saying that for the Staff Officer Service Dress CRL we need a proof of a Staff officer (not 451), in a Service Dress, wearing a hat. And the same for a Line officer. Hall Walkers had a different jacket...
I usually do the same if I talk about a certain tunic/uniforms. Unfortunately, the water has been muddied due to the fact some people have problems distinguishing the different uniforms and are using the wrong terms.
I think we should go by what we see on screen. The guys at the party do not wear hats. I would be ok with having hats as optional items because it would make sense that they have them but just do not wear them at the party. I do not want to have another poncho-gate, so we should just leave them out of the CRL because they are not seen in that movie.
It is nice to read what Mr. Crossman wrote to bobofett4ever but it is only nice to know. We try to copy what was seen on screen, in comics or computer games. The information that Mr. Crossman provided does not really help us.
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30 minutes ago, charlyselo said:
The point with Hall Walkers is that they are not either staff or line officers...
I will add hats as optional to the proposal, but I'm still not convinced...The problem is that we do not know what the hall walkers were supposed to be.
I took this text out of my post from January 29th, 2018 on the Hall Walker CRL. I tried to shed some light on the occupation of the hall walkers.
A New Hope: Star Wars: Episode IV (Lucas, George) Position 2478-2480 [page 138 of 216]
"The farther they traveled, the heavier the traffic became. Other soldiers, bureaucrats, technicians and mechanicals bustled around them. Intent on their own assignments, they ignored the trio completely, only a few of the humans sparing the wookie a curious glance."
I think the "mechanicals" are the droids. The "soldiers" are most likely the navy trooper. The "bureaucrats" are probably the ISBs. So then the "technicians" would be the hall walkers. That would make the most sense due to the fact that one of the old hall walkers is standing behind Tarkin wearing an IN helmet and headphones.
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Jeff, where are planning on getting your uniform from. Are you going to get it tailored or do want to buy it from Cosplaysky, Magnoli Clothiers or some other vendor?
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2 hours ago, Jeffthulhu said:
Hey, all.
So, I've been looking at doing an officer for a while now since my TK pinches in all the wrong places. Plus, it'd be nice to be able to sit down once in a while.
Anyway, I've set my eyes on the ISB officer and Grand Admiral, and the CRL pics on the main 501st site make it look like the tunic is the same. Is that correct, or am I missing something?
My idea is that if they're the same, just to sew some strong magnets into the shoulders to connect the epaulets (invisibly!) and just make the rank bars. So far as I can tell, that's the only difference (plus hat and pants, of course). Is that right, or am I going to have to pick between the two? I'd like to get an advanced certification, but if I can sacrifice that and get a twofer, that would be awesome.
Thanks!
I think you two are not talking about the same tunic. If I understand Jeff correctly he would like to use one tunic for both Grand Admiral and ISB R1 by using magnets to connect the epaulets to the tunic. Since both uniforms basically use the same tunic that should be possible.
1 hour ago, mwilsen said:Jeff,
Unfortunatly they are not interchangeable. The ISB tunic is more like the ANH Staff tunic where the closure goes straight accross. The Grand Admiral tunics closure goes over the shoulder and ends at the shoulder seam. Love your creativity but unfortunately they have two different style tunics. Let us know if you have any other questions. Good luck.
Matt
Matt you are talking about the ISB ANH tunic while Jeff is talking about the ISB R1 tunic.
The closure of the ANH staff officer and the ISB ANH are not similar. The closure of the ANH staff officer goes up to the shoulder seam similar to the line officer. One of the differences between the two is that the neck closure for the ANH staff officer is at the side and the neck closure of the line officer is in the front.
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6 hours ago, charlyselo said:
Not sure if it's a code cylinder, but that guy wear something on his pocket, yeah.
6 hours ago, bjsavage7 said:I've always thought there was a rod-style cylinder there. Just can't quite make it out.
I tried to enhance the size of the object in that guy's right code cylinder pocket. I still have no clue what it is. It does not look like a dosimeter or rod-tyle code cylinder to me.
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1 hour ago, bobafett4ever said:
I'm in agreement. I like Service Dress. Hats optional, but are not the preference.
As for one note with rank, Mr. Crossman stated that Service Dress was previously used in ANH (and G. Erso in R1)... so not just Solo.
10 minutes ago, Exaldear said:Sounds like the hall walkers in ANH. They had hats.
I am quite sure that Mr. Crossman was talking about the hall walkers in ANH. They were the only people that wore "Feldgrau" uniforms with regular pants and Chelsea boots. When I saw Galen Erso in the flashback scene for the first time I thought that he was modeled after the hall walkers. The hall walkers wore a hat but Galen Erso and the guys in Solo did not. Due to that, I am OK with having the hat as an optional item.
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1 hour ago, Prida said:
I have a question! I have seen "Fahrenheit 451" being using in reference to tunics in various threads! What does it mean?
The black tunics that were worn by the officers in ANH were borrowed form Bermans. Those tunics were originally used in the British movie Fahrenheit 451 from 1966. The movie was based on the novel Fahrenheit 451 from 1953.
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46 minutes ago, Prida said:
Your's is probably miles ahead of mine!
That could be the case. I have actually finished my first version of a uniform. I made it for a Rogue One event in 2016. Unfortunately, it is not approvable. The tunic has princess seams in the front to accommodate my large bust. The skirt part is also too short. I will rework the pattern so that I can use it for the mess uniform.
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30 minutes ago, charlyselo said:
Hehe, I'm working on a Navy Trooper, but I will go for a R1 version. Maybe in a future I take your ANH alternative.
BTW, off-topic, did you know in which film appears the NT Dress uniform, regular officer jacket and jodhpurs trousers? ESB? Yesterday I took a quick view of RotJ and I only could appreciate Navy Troopers with jumpsuits...
IN dress uniform R1 and the IN dress uniform ANH are very similar.
There is one IN with the black officer tunic in ROTJ. He can be seen in the Control room when Vaders shuttle approaches the Death Star. You can only see his upper body.
There are a couple of IN with officer tunics, jodhpurs, and riding boots. One or two stand guard at Vaders door and two carry away the Captain that lost the Falcon after Vader chokes him.
IN dress uniform in ROTJ:
IN dress uniform in ESB:
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8 minutes ago, charlyselo said:
Ok. I didn't research this suit enough to have a solid opinion, so I trust you
Thanks. I have been researching the tunics that were used in ANH for almost four years now. I really like that style of uniforms. I hope that I will sew well enough someday to get one of these tunics approved by the GMOs of my Garrison. They are very picky when it comes to these uniforms so I will have to practice some more.
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Here is the warrant officer that is wearing a Fahrenheit 451 tunic and riding boots.
He is the same stuntman that falls when this officer gets shot.
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9 minutes ago, charlyselo said:
I know you worked a lot on this costume, and I love it. With this proposal I only want to bring some order to the current CRL with a quick update, until we get new ones.
Maybe we could just update the current one and eliminate from it all references to ANH and ESB, as we know they are incorrect (and some updates on RotJ, like the gauntlet gloves you mention). That will leave us without ANH Warrant Officer for a time, but I'm with you that is better don't have a costume than have a wrong costume.Edit: On the other hand, I don't like too much the idea of combine ANH Warrant with ANH NT Dress. It's the same thing we have with the Science Officer and the Line Officer Mess Dress. Two identical costumes but different positions or jobs (don't know if the word position is the better one, sorry)
The warrant officer in ANH has the same job as the Navy Troopers. The one that is seen with two INs and some stormtroopers in the hall scene seems to be the squad leader of those INs. The one that falls down in the stairs in the scene where Han, Luke, and Chewie save Leia is actually wearing a Fahrenheit 451 uniform and riding boots. He just does not have the code cylinders and the rank bar. If you look closely you can see that it is the same stuntman that fell when the other officer got shot at the beginning of that scene.
Here is a thread where Paggeldiwwer and I wrote about this.
So there is only one real warrant officer in ANH and he is just a Navy Trooper Dress uniform ANH that wears a hat instead of the helmet and does not have a blaster or a holster. This is the guy.
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This the newest version of the CRL, which is from February 21st, 2018. I just corrected some typos and changed the items written in green into the correct colors.
Imperial Navy Helmet
For 501st approval:
- For more detailed images, see the Imperial Navy Helmet Detail page.
- 12" (304.8mm) diameter black plastic dome.
- Front and back covers with 1.5" (38.1mm) holes over-laid onto dome.
- Back "wing" extending about 4" (101.6mm) below the rim of the dome at the sides and about 7" (177.8mm) at the back, encompassing about half the circumference of the helmet.
- Ear blocks with a bend to match the flare of the "wing" over each ear at the front ends of the "wing" with geometric circle patterns in the top half and a spaced out area of "dimples" in the lower half.
For level two certification (if applicable):
- Helmet must very closely match the details seen on screen
For level three certification (if applicable):
- Must exactly match a specific helmet worn on-screen.
Tunic
For 501st approval:
- Fabric should be black or a very dark blue
- The tunic is double-breasted with a left over right closure on the tapered yoke.
- Yoke comes straight across from the collar center.
- The standing collar has square corners and should cover ½ to 2/3 of the neck. A modesty panel can be present.
- Sleeves are long, and without decoration, cuffs or buttons
- Tunic shall not have the standard code cylinder pockets.
- Darts and princess seams on the front are permitted for a better fit of the tunic
- A seam running the entire circumference of the tunic, dividing the top from the skirt is permitted
For level two certification (if applicable):
- There is a seam down the center of the yoke
- There is top stitching down the yoke about 50mm from the edge
- There is a slit on both side seams that goes up about 1/3 of the total length of the tunic
- Sleeves have two seams, one along the bottom and one along the back.
- The point of the yoke comes across and slightly up.
For level three certification (if applicable):
- The fabric should be wool
- There are princess seams on the back of the tunic
- There is a seam down the center of the back
- There shall be no seam running the entire circumference of the tunic
- There is topstitching on the top of the yoke running from the middle seam around the yoke down the hem. The topstitching is about 10mm from the edge.
- There is top stitching around the wrist area of the sleeve. The topstitching is about 10mm from the edge.
- There is top stitching around the bottom hem of the front and back of the tunic. The topstitching in about 10mm from the edge.
- There is top stitching around the edge of the collar. The topstitching is about 10mm from the edge
- There is lining inside the tunic
- Snaps or buttons are hidden behind a panel are used for closure
- There shall not be extra darts or princess seams on the front
Black Gauntlet Gloves
For 501st approval:
- Black, leather or leather-like, enclosed fingered, non-textured, fitted gauntlet style.
For level two certification (if applicable):
- Gauntlets are made of leather.
For level three certification (if applicable):
- Gauntlets have a strap with a buckle around the wrist.
- Gauntlets have red lining
Belt
For 501st approval:
- The belt is constructed from a non-textured leather or a leather-like material.
- Approximately 2" (50.8 mm) in width, up to 3" (76.2 mm) is acceptable.
- There are no loops on the belt.
- A single large snap or rivet is visible approximately 1" (25.4 mm) from the buckle. The belt may be worn with the snap to the right or left of the wearer.
- The buckle is constructed from a horizontally brushed metal or metal looking material.
- The buckle size is approximately 2 5/8" (66.7 mm) high and 4 1/8" (104.5 mm) wide with 0.5" (12.7 mm) radius rounded corners.
- The buckle is adorned with an Imperial Code Disk at the center. Please refer to the Imperial Buckle reference page for information on accurate and inaccurate style buckles.
For level two certification (if applicable):
- The belt is made of leather.
For level three certification (if applicable):
- Snap is worn to the left of the wearer.
- Buckle has a slight horizontal
Trousers
For 501st approval:
- Trousers should be made of the same fabric as the tunic
- Trousers should have the same color as the tunic
- Pockets are acceptable, although not visible with the tunic on.
- Pants are neatly pressed with no center crease and are tucked into boots.
Boots
For 501st approval:
- Calf high black leather or leather-like material.
- Free of laces, decorative stitching, buckles on the instep or any other embellishments.
- Boots may have a single adjustment strap at the top outside of the boot, with the buckle no wider than 1". This need not be functional.
- Zippers on the inside of the boot are acceptable, so long as they are concealed. If the zipper is not covered by vinyl/ leather, it is painted black.
- German "jack boot" style boots are most canon.
For level two certification (if applicable):
- Boots are made of leather.
For level three certification (if applicable):
- Original German jack boots (or ?Knobelbechers?) or an authentic replication thereof.
- Boots have the top adjustment strap.
Optional Accessories
Items below are optional costume accessories. These items are not required for approval, but if present appears as described below.
Belt Boxes
For 501st approval:
- Two vertical belt boxes, one on either side of the belt buckle
- Dimensions are approximately 2 1/2" (63.5 mm) by 3 1/2" (88.9 mm) by 1" (25.4 mm) thick.
For level two certification (if applicable):
- Belt boxes should include a lid on the back of the box.
- Project boxes are not allowed for level 2 and 3 clearance.
For level three certification (if applicable):
- Belt boxes are constructed of metal.
Imperial Hat, black
For 501st approval:
- The fabric is a medium weight suiting material matching the pants and tunic if applicable. Gabardine style weave is most accurate.
- The base of the hat is conical, with a crown about 4" (101.6 mm) tall.
- Front and rear "flaps" overlap on the sides and are about 4" (101.6 mm) high.
- Front bill extends 3" down, decorated with 5, 6 or 7 concentric stitches.
- Imperial Code Disk is positioned in the center of the front vertical flap.
For level two certification (if applicable):
- Code Disk has a notch detail on the outermost disk.
For level three certification (if applicable):
- Code disk exactly matches screen-used prop.
Holster
For 501st approval:
- Made of black leather or leather-like material.
For level two certification (if applicable):
- The holster should be made of leather
For level three certification (if applicable):
- DH-17 holster should be worn on the right side
- E-11 holster should be worn on the left side
DH-17 Blaster
For 501st approval:
- Scratch built high-end prop replica or a modified commercial toy Rebel Trooper blaster.
BlasTech E-11
For 501st approval:
- Scratch-built, high-end prop replica or a modified commercial toy Stormtrooper blaster.
This CRL is based on my research, the research of TK1066, Paggeldiwwer and many others.
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I am just posting something to pull this up on the thread list.
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I am just posting something to pull this up on the thread list.
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16 hours ago, Exaldear said:
Ok. So I would like to start moving on to revamping the CRLs, either the name of some as has been suggested or in some cases the actual CRL (I know some people want the navy trooper CRLs worked over). Before then, I want to know, do people want to change the layout, or keep it the same. Do we go with
Republic officers
High command
Fleet officers
ISB
Navy troopers
Crewmen
Imperial officers
High command
Fleet officers
ISB
Navy troopers
Crewmen
First Order officers
High command
Fleet officers
ISB
Navy troopers
Crewmen
Or just go with
High command
Fleet officers
ISB
Navy troopers
Crewmen
And ignore eras?
I think we should ignore eras. The uniforms from the eras are not consistent with the different types of media.
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15 minutes ago, charlyselo said:
Taking a look to the CRL while helping a future member of the Spanish Garrison, I could notice the mess some of you told me about this CRL. As today I don't have too much work to do at job (lucky me), I've been working on a possible update. I know some people want to separate this CRL in two, me included, but at least we can use this update for the moment...
As the pictures we have for the jacket are from a regular officer jacket, I propose to use the RotJ variant as main, and take the ANH as the alternative.
Here it's what I have:
Description: Imperial Warrant Officer
Prefix: ID
Detachment: Imperial Officer Corps
Context: Star Wars Episodes IV (ANH) and VI (RotJ)Imperial Hat, black -
Fabric is a medium weight suiting material matching the pants and tunic if applicable.
- Gabardine style weave is most accurate.
- Base of the hat is conical, with a crown about 4" (101.6 mm) tall.
- Front and rear "flaps" overlap on the sides and are about 4" (101.6 mm) high.
- Front bill extends 3" down, decorated with 5, 6 or 7 concentric stitches.
- Imperial Code Disk is positioned in the center of the front vertical flap.
OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): - Code Disk has a notch detail on the outermost disk.
OPTIONAL Level three certification (if applicable): - Code disk exactly matches screen-used prop.
Tunic, Black -
Fabric should be a medium weight suiting material exactly matching the pants.
- Gabardine style weave is most accurate.
- Tunic is double-breasted with a left over right closure on the tapered yoke.
- Yoke comes up across the shoulder to the top shoulder seam.
- The standing collar has square corners and is about 1.25" (31.8 mm) tall and closes snugly and includes a modesty panel behind closure. Collar edges are closed with two eye hooks.
- Sleeves are long, and without decoration, cuffs or buttons, containing 2 seams, one along the bottom and one along the back.
- Rank bars of any kind are not permitted.
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The Warrant Officers in ANH wear a uniquely designed tunic with subtle differences that are only seen in ANH. These are identical to ISBs (but black), with the tunic closure straight across from the collar center, not coming up to the shoulder top. Costumers may choose to replicate this design in lieu of the standard officer tunic, but only if doing the ANH Warrant Officer. Warrant Officers in ESB and ROTJ wore regular black officer-style tunics.
OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): - There is a dart of about 2" (50.8 mm) in the top center of the yoke.
- Additionally there is a seam running the entire circumference of the tunic, dividing it along a line hidden by the uniform belt.
- The back of the tunic has princess seams that run vertically and turns outward to intersect the arm-hole seam at the vertical center.
OPTIONAL Level three certification (if applicable): - Tunic must be secured on the right side by snaps or buttons, not Velcro. There is no topstitching visible anywhere and it must have a lining sewn in.
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There are no code cylinder pockets the outside panels of the jacket for ANH warrant officers.
Belt - The belt is constructed from a non-textured leather or a leather-like material.
- Approximately 2" (50.8 mm) in width, up to 3" (76.2 mm) is acceptable.
- There are no loops on the belt.
- A single large snap or rivet is visible approximately 1" (25.4 mm) from the buckle.
- The belt may be worn with the snap to the right or left of the wearer.
- The buckle is constructed from a horizontally brushed metal, or metal looking material.
- The buckle size is approximately 2 5/8" (66.7 mm) high and 4 1/8" (104.5 mm) wide with 0.5" (12.7 mm) radius rounded corners.
- Buckle is adorned with an Imperial Code Disk at the center.
- Please refer to the Imperial Buckle reference page for information on accurate and inaccurate style buckles.
OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): - Belt is made of leather.
- Snap is worn to the left of the wearer.
- Buckle has a slight horizontal curve.
Jodhpur Trousers, black
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Fabric is a medium weight suiting material exactly matching the tunic and hat.
- Gabardine style weave is most accurate.
- Flared riding breeches are canon.
- Breeches must be worn with boots.
- Pockets are acceptable, although they are not visible with the tunic on.
Officer Boots -
Knee-high, black, lace-less, smooth non-textured, leather or leather-like material.
- Rubber is not acceptable.
- PVC or synthetic material is allowed as long as it gives the appearance of leather.
- There are no stretch panels, buckles, snap tabs, or decoration.
- Boots have conservative heels.
- If zippers are present, they are hidden on the inner part of the boot shaft.
- Not visible from the front, side or back.
- The top of the boots may be flat or Spanish Style, but not Cowboy or Super Hero (pointed at the front) style.
OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): - Boots do not have a zipper.
OPTIONAL Level three certification (if applicable): -
Boots are made of leather.
- Not vinyl or PVC.
- Exact replicas of English riding (dress) boots or Equestrian boots.
Optional Accessories Items below are optional costume accessories. These items are not required for approval, but if present appear as described below. If adding in an accessory after initial approval, the item still needs to be submitted to local GML for approval before use.
Black Gloves (
ESB andROTJ)-
Optional glove choice for ROTJ Warrant Officers: - Black, wrist length gloves constructed of a non-textured leather or leather-like material.
- Enclosed fingers.
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No buckles, straps, etc.
- May have three stitched lines on the back of the hand for ROTJ.
- ROTJ gloves are longer at the wrist.
OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):
- Gloves are made of leather.
Black Gauntlet Gloves - Black, leather or leather-like, enclosed fingered, non-textured, fitted gauntlet length.
- No buckles, straps, or decorative stitching are permitted.
OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): - Gloves are made of leather.
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ANH warrant officers shall not wear gauntlet style gloves. - ROTJ warrant officers may wear gauntlet style gloves.
Belt Boxes - Dimensions are approximately 2 1/2" (63.5 mm) by 3 1/2" (114.3 mm) by 1" (25.4 mm) thick.
- Boxes can be worn either vertically or horizontally on either side of the belt buckle.
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One or twoOne, two or four boxes can be worn on either the right or left side of the belt. - Placement of the screw / rivet for the belt boxes should be on the shortest side (top and bottom for vertical belt boxes, left and right for horizontal)
- The same amount of boxes are worn on each side of the belt.
- Project boxes are not allowed for level 2 and 3 clearance.
OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): - Belt boxes are only worn vertically.
A New Hope Specific Requirements
Utilizing the following tunic, trousers and boots. No gloves allowed.
Tunic, Black
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The Warrant Officers in ANH wear a uniquely designed tunic with subtle differences that are only seen in ANH. These are identical to ISBs (but black), with the tunic closure straight across from the collar center, not coming up to the shoulder top.
This is going to be a pain in the ass, as we don't have any picture for this tunic. Maybe somebody have one and can take a picture. Also we know this one is not 100% correct, PArmstr made a fantastic research on this, but maybe for now we can keep this version...
We could also use a copy/paste from ISB ANH tunic.
Trousers, black
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Fabric is a medium weight suiting material exactly matching the tunic and hat.
- Gabardine style weave is most accurate.
- Pockets are acceptable, although not visible with the tunic on.
- Pants are neatly pressed or ironed.
- Pants smartly rest on the top of the shoes without bunching or giving any sloppy appearance.
Boots - Calf high black leather or leather like material.
- Free of laces, decorative stitching, buckles on the instep or any other embellishments.
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Boots may have a single adjustment strap at the top outside of the boot, with the buckle no wider than 1".
- This need not be functional.
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Zippers on the inside of the boot are acceptable, so long as they are concealed.
- If the zipper is not covered by vinyl/ leather, it is painted black.
- German "jack boot" style boots are most canon.
OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): - Boots are made of leather.
OPTIONAL Level three certification (if applicable): - Original German jack boots (or “Knobelbechers”) or an authentic replication thereof.
- Boots have the top adjustment strap.
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For the belt boxes I think we should allow four boxes configurations, at least for RotJ version:
I would prefer the Warrant officer ROTJ to have its own CRL and to create a combined CRL for the Navy Trooper Dress Uniform ANH and Warrant Officer ANH. Due to the fact that they are basically the same. I already wrote a proposal for that. The latest version was from February 21st, 2018.
Your proposal would be a start but please do not use the wording ISB ANH part of the ISB CRL as a template for the Warrant Officer ANH. The tunics are not similar enough. Please do not try to correct something that is incorrect with something that is also incorrect.
By the way, as far as I can remember none of the Warrant officers in ROTJ wore gauntlet style gloves.
Here my links:
A link about the gloves used in the OT.
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Fabric is a medium weight suiting material matching the pants and tunic if applicable.
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Yes, the quality of the screen caps is bad. When I pulled them the first time I did not pay enough attention to the quality. They were only 480p. This time I pulled them in 1080p HD. Unfortunately, I still cannot see how many tiles the rank bar has. I can only see that the line officers seem to have long red rank bars. They probably have 6 blue tiles, which should be the rank of army general. The staff officers have long blue rank bars. They probably have 6 blue tiles, which should be the rank of security/stromtrooper general.
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8 minutes ago, Steven said:
Get it approved by the LMOs is the hardest part, as I have found out in the last months. At least according to what I have been told regarding my CRL proposals.
Yes, that seems to be the case. I wish our CRL creation and approval process would be more like the one the Rebel Legion uses. I helped to create three CS in the last three months and all of them are already online.
Line/Staff Officer Service Dress, proposal.
in New CRLs
Posted · Edited by PArmstr
Corrected a typo.
I agree with bobafett4ever and charlyselo that the CRL should reflect what we see on screen. Due to that line officers and ISBs should be able to wear a hat or go without it. The partygoers in Solo and the Science officer in R1 are never seen with a hat so it should not be optional. As for the hall walkers in ANH, they are only seen with hats or IN helmets.