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Here is a Youtube-videoclip tutorial on how to assemble PDF downloadable patterns from Reconstructing History. I still think that the marking system isn't good and way to much work.
I also forgot to mention more things that I liked about the pattern. The 11 page instructions include 2 pages on the history of the uniform and 2 pages intructions on period stitches, which I found interesting and helpful.
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I bought and tried out the downloadable version of the Men's 1916 royal flying corps officers jacket and coat. I can't recommend it for beginners. You should have a lot of experience if want to use it.
First I printed out the test page to check if my printer could print the scale right. Everything looked good. Then I printed out the” RH1083 Model (1) A4”. You need to print all 50 pages. I also printed out the “Downloadable How-to” (4 pages), “RH1083 notes A4” (11 pages) and “RH1083 Model (1) A4 scaled” (2 pages). That makes a total of 67 pages.
The instructions are ok but the marks in the corner aren’t much help at first. I found the best way to work with the marks is to cut off the red mark area. Then draw blue lines like shown in the picture. Then lay the next page where I put the green arrows. It works like a huge puzzle. I think McCall’s and Burda did a better job with the markings of their downloadable patterns. Cutting the fabric and sewing it was ok but I wouldn’t recommend it for a beginner or perhaps even intermediate. The pattern doesn’t have extra markings for putting it together or adjusting the size.
Unfortunately, the sizes seem to be incorrect but I could also have misunderstood them. I made the size 50 because I thought it was meant for a chest of 50 inches (127cm) and a waist of 46 inches (116,84cm). I made everything above the waistline because I knew my hips wouldn’t fit even the biggest size. The size 50 should have fit my upper body but be tight. It didn’t even get close. I couldn’t try it on because it was so tight. I might try the size 54 at a later time but I don’t think it will fit. The differences between the sizes aren’t large enough in my opinion.
One of the things that I really liked is that you get both versions (A4 and letter) of the down loadable pattern when you order it.
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Reconstructinghistory.com has a sale on their historic patterns. The downloadable ones are going for $9.95 and the regular ones for about $15 - $20. These patterns usually go for about $30. I haven't worked with their pattern yet but some of them look like they could be a good base for officer uniforms.
Men's 1916 royal flying corps officers jacket and coat (This one could work, with minor changes, for ANH uniforms ISB, warrant officer and navy trooper)
Men's victorian era army frock coat (This one looks similar to version A of the McCall's M4745 but perherps without the puffy shoulders)
Men's 1910s military trench coat (This one could work, with minor changes, for ANH uniforms ISB, warrant officer and navy trooper)
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Rhaethe, I can't see that thread. It says "Sorry, we can't show this content because you do not have permission to see it." I think it is in the area of the forum that is only accessible to full members of the IOC or only for members of the detachment staff. I only have 501st status due to the fact that I'm still working on my first IOC-costumes.
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Good to hear that. I was a little confused. I guess I will just continue to work on my ISB mock-up and perhaps my first "hall walker" mock-up until you are done cleaning up the CRLs before I continue with my warrant officer ANH.
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I just saw that the CRL of the warrant officer was updated. I really like that the CRL now states that the ANH version wears a black tunic similar to the ISB tunic. Unfortunately that is stated for level 3. How does one get an ANH tunic approved if there isn’t a level 1 (and level 2) for it? Which level of the ISB tunic (1, 2 or 3, updated CRL) would be the one that would work as the ANH warrant officer tunic?
I also saw that the updated CRL still says that for Level 2 ANH warrant officers shall not wear gauntlet style gloves. That statement is wrong because both warrant officers in ANH wear black leather gauntlet-style gloves. You can see that in the pictures that I posted in my thread.
http://www.imperialofficer.com/forum/index.php?/topic/5426-selfmade-imperial-warrant-officer-wip/
Another thing that is missing from the CRL is the option to wear/carry an E-11 blaster plus holster like the warrant officer in the detention block is doing.
I don’t want to be picky. That isn’t the reason I posted this. The thing is I really would like to make one of the two warrant officers from ANH but I don’t know how I can do this and get it approved if there isn’t a basic approval for them. I would never be able to reach level 3 from the get go.
http://databank.501st.com/databank/Costuming:ID_imperial_officer_black_nco
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It looks to me like the left trading cards says IO-84002. Shouldn't it be ID-84002?
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7 hours ago, bjsavage7 said:
Thank you for putting together this thread. This has been a costume that's been overlooked and underappreciated, IMO. Good to see someone show it some attention.
Yes, BJ you are completely right this costume has been overlooked way to long. I will make my first muck-up when my ISB is finished.
6 hours ago, vonmoen said:I thought I'd add another photo.
Thank you for adding this picture. It is always good to have more sources for research.
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I started collecting threads where the “hall walkers” are mentioned due to the fact I’m thinking about creating one of these after I'm done with my ISB (ANH) and warrant officer (ANH).
http://www.imperialofficer.com/forum/index.php?/topic/6559-unknown-costume-in-anh/
http://www.imperialofficer.com/forum/index.php?/topic/3498-death-squad-commander/#comment-39519
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8 hours ago, Adianu said:
From watching ANH it looks like the back princess seams hit at the shoulders rather than the scye. Still haven't been able to get a clear shot of the collar....
We we had a drafting party today and got good skirt slopers done! Purchased a tutorial on Craftsy for a bodice sloper for the next step...
There is a site that has Blue Ray quality screen shoots of all the Star Wars movies. I use them for my research all the time because I can't get clear shots from my DVD.
http://starwarsscreencaps.com/
5 hours ago, inquisitoriuspicnic said:Congrats on drafting progress!
Okay, I accidentally stumbled across a thread that talks about the ANH staff uniform, and it might answer some of your questions. From what I understand, the collar fastens at the side, not the front, the sleeves have the seam open at the bottom wrist part way up the forearm, the back torso seams mimic the front seams, and the center front and back panel of the tunic seems to overlap the side fronts and backs on either edge. There may be more differences than these.
The black officer uniform from ANH is similar to the uniforms of the movie Fahrenheit 451. They used many different officer uniforms in ANH. Only the olive type was used in ESB and ROTJ in the colors olive and black.
Clothears Costume made the black ANH officer uniform for one of the IOC members. The pictures might help.
http://www.clothearscostumes.com/portfolio/a-new-hope-451-officer/
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The tunic can be acceptable right out of the box if they get your measurements right. The flaps on the jodhpurs trousers always need some tailoring and stiffening. Yes, there should be threads about the alterations somewhere on this forum.
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The imperial uniforms don’t look like nazi uniforms. I my opinion they aren’t even close. The imperial uniforms are, as mentioned by other members, very similar to the royal air corp uniforms of WW1. In general, many pre-WW1 and WW1 uniforms look similar due to the fact that is how they were made at the time. Some chef jackets look similar to imperial tunics that were used in ANH as well.
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I’m planning on using my two officer costumes as back-up costumes when I can’t handle being in my jawa all day long. I have asthma and on some days I just don’t get enough air under my mask. I also don’t want to wear my jawa at crowded events if I don’t have a handler. I had two bad experiences when I was trooping with a small local group. I haven’t had a bad experience at an official 501st legion event yet but I prefer going to smaller events and avoid the real big ones. That might have helped. I want to keep the jawa as my main costume because the people love it and I’m camera shy if I’m not hiding under a mask due to being obese.
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Many people try to use the McCall's M 4745 Civil War pattern for the tunic. I don't recommend it because the shoulders of the sleeves are weird. The instructions are also a little bit difficult to follow. https://mccallpattern.mccall.com/product-search?ref=M4745
Some people use the Butterick B6340 pattern for the jodhpurs trousers. https://butterick.mccall.com/b6340
I suggest using Hawk's pattern from the forum for the tunic. http://www.imperialofficer.com/forum/index.php?/topic/4491-imperial-officer-id-sewing-tutorial/
If you want to use the McCall's M4745 pattern as a base I recommend following Char Tozard steps. He did a very good job with his uniform.
http://www.imperialofficer.com/forum/index.php?/topic/64-m4745-tunic-skirt/
http://www.imperialofficer.com/forum/index.php?/topic/70-m4745-tunic-pattern-mods-complete/
http://www.imperialofficer.com/forum/index.php?/topic/91-m4745-progress-report/
http://www.imperialofficer.com/forum/index.php?/topic/62-m4745-pattern-mod-code-pockets/
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Currently, only staff officers have an optional blaster in their CRL. They can carry a MerrSonn Power5 blaster with a brown holster. Perhaps some day the warrant officer might be able to carry an E-11 because we found one in ANH in the detention cell area.
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Many people try to use the McCall's M 4745 Civil War pattern for the tunic. I don't recommend it because the shoulders of the sleeves are weird. The instructions are also a little bit difficult to follow. https://mccallpattern.mccall.com/product-search?ref=M4745
Some people use the Butterick B6340 pattern for the jodhpurs trousers. https://butterick.mccall.com/b6340
I suggest using Hawk's pattern from the forum for the tunic. http://www.imperialofficer.com/forum/index.php?/topic/4491-imperial-officer-id-sewing-tutorial/
If you want to use the McCall's M4745 pattern as a base I recommend following Char Tozard steps. He did a very good job with his uniform.
http://www.imperialofficer.com/forum/index.php?/topic/64-m4745-tunic-skirt/
http://www.imperialofficer.com/forum/index.php?/topic/70-m4745-tunic-pattern-mods-complete/
http://www.imperialofficer.com/forum/index.php?/topic/91-m4745-progress-report/
http://www.imperialofficer.com/forum/index.php?/topic/62-m4745-pattern-mod-code-pockets/
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Enlisted personnel in olive uniform with Tarkin in front of viewing screen
Uniform details of the enlisted personnel in olive uniform with Tarkin in front of viewing screen
· black navy trooper helmet
· large black and white headphones with microphone and long black cord
· regular imperial belt (can’t be seen in the scene)
· no belt boxes (can’t be seen in the scene)
· no gloves (can’t be seen in the scene)
· black dress shoes without shoe laces or buckles (can’t be seen in the scene)
· olive straight legged trousers / dress slacks (can’t be seen in the scene)
· olive tunic with a very narrow yoke and brownish cuffs
· no code cylinder pockets
· no code cylinders
· no rank bar
· no weapon (can’t be seen in the scene)
· no holster (can’t be seen in the scene)
Tunic details
· right over left closure
· narrow (2-3 inch), straight yoke similar to some type of chef jackets
· standing collar, it's difficult to tell what shape the corners have, they might be square, round or angled, it will have to be tested in a muck-up
· collar has the same color as the rest of the tunic, in some pictures the collar looks darker
· opening is at the center of the collar, in some picture it looks like the collar is slightly of center to left
· collar does not close snugly
· collar does not have a modesty panel, skin can be seen
· long sleeve with only one seem
· sleeves have brownish 2-3 inch cuffs (this detail should only be 2 or 3)
· no code cylinder pockets
· no rank bar
· there is probably no seam under the belt
· back of the tunic is made of one piece of fabric, there are no princess seems and no seem down the center of the back
· no extra seems on the skirt part of the tunic
Tunic closure / yoke comparison
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I was wondering if we could create a CRL for these guys. There are quite a few of them in the hallway and elevator scene in ANH. There are also two of them wearing IN helmets in scenes were Tarkin is standing in front of the death star viewing screen. Starwars.com uses a picture one of them in their death star trooper databank entry. I don’t think that is the best example of an IN but that is a different story. http://www.starwars.com/databank/death-star-troopers
I think this simple uniform could be a good alternative for people who want to have an IOC costume but have problems finding fitting officer boots or jackboots and think the ISB version with the regular trouser gets dirty to easily.
Enlisted personnel in olive uniform in the hallway / elevator scenes (Pictures were taken from starwarsscreencaps.com)
Uniform details of the enlisted personnel in olive uniform in the hallway / elevator scenes
· olive imperial hat with code disk
· regular imperial leather belt
· no belt boxes
· no gloves
· black dress shoes without shoe laces or buckles
· olive straight legged trousers / dress slacks
· olive tunic
· no code cylinder pockets
· no code cylinders
· no rank bar
· no weapon
· no holster
- DarthFunk83 and Grevant
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Many people try to use the McCall's M 4745 Civil War pattern for the tunic. I don't recommend it because the shoulders of the sleeve are weird. The instructions are also a little bit difficult to follow.
https://mccallpattern.mccall.com/product-search?ref=M4745
Some people use the Butterick B6340 pattern for the jodhpurs trousers.
https://butterick.mccall.com/b6340
I suggest using Hawk's pattern from the forum for the tunic.
http://www.imperialofficer.com/forum/index.php?/topic/4491-imperial-officer-id-sewing-tutorial/
If you want to use the McCall's M4745 pattern as a base I recommend following Char Tozard steps. He did a very good job with his uniform.
http://www.imperialofficer.com/forum/index.php?/topic/64-m4745-tunic-skirt/
http://www.imperialofficer.com/forum/index.php?/topic/70-m4745-tunic-pattern-mods-complete/
http://www.imperialofficer.com/forum/index.php?/topic/91-m4745-progress-report/
http://www.imperialofficer.com/forum/index.php?/topic/62-m4745-pattern-mod-code-pockets/
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You should not buy the Star Wars Imperial Officer Black Garbardine Uniform Costume that you linked. There are things that you would have to change on that one. For example it doesn’t have the modesty panel.
If you want to buy a Cosplaysky uniform, you should buy the Star Wars Imperial Officer Uniform Costume Deluxe Version NEW. It costs the same as the one you posted. People were able to go up to level 3 with that one if it was custom made for them. http://cosplaysky.com/star-wars-imperial-officer-uniform-costume-deluxe-version-new.html.
mwilsen was a little bit faster with his reply than me.
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Your costume looks great.
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- The back of the tunic has princess seams that run vertically and turn outward to intersect the arm-hole seam at the vertical center.
Is just a way to describe the princess seams on the back of the officer tunic. Unfortunately, you can't see any in the picture used in the Daala CRL. If you take a look at the CRL of the line officer you can see what they are trying to describe. On BJs tunic, the princess seams starts at the waist seam, which is hidden under his belt. Then it goes upward, that is the vertical part in the description. Then it starts bending, and going outward towards the shoulders. If the tunic fits right and you have a more common body shape the princess seam connects with the seam of the sleeve.
http://databank.501st.com/databank/Costuming:ID_daala_officer
http://databank.501st.com/databank/Costuming:ID_imperial_officer
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As far as I know, you can have one or two princess seams. The CRL only states that the tunic needs to have princess seams for level 2. It doesn’t mention a specific number. The Anovos premier line uniform and the uniform from Museums Replicas have two princess seams on each side. The Anovos standard line seems to have only one prices seam. The Cosplaysky deluxe uniform also only has one. The Museum Replicas and Cosplaysky deluxe uniforms are the most common uniforms in the IOC. As far as I know, there aren’t any approved Anovos yet.
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I love this custom version of the night owls. If I'm not mistaken I saw other pictures of them on facebook.