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What is that red stuff under their arms?
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2 hours ago, PArmstr said:
Perhaps we are wrong about the color of the collar and cuffs. Maybe they are not brown. It could be that for some reason they just look that way in some screen caps. I found an olive Russian uniform that has large cuffs and no pockets. If you turn the closure from left over right to right over left and imagine it without shoulder flaps and collar insignia it looks very similar.
Source: http://www.zemlyanka-v.com/shop/ussr/uniforma/paradnyjj-mundir-serzhanta-vvs-sa-obr-1943-goda/
The "Jankers" from the traditional german/bavarian store have no princess seams. If I look at the movie scenes I belive to see them though. Hard to tell through screencaps.
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1 hour ago, lantern2745 said:
So if it's a "senior" officer, who roams the Deathstar.....
Mall Walkers!!!!
The "Mall Walkers" are husbands with a happy wife, a lot of plastic bags to shoulder and an empty pocket book, aren't they
I think "Senior Technician" might sound like something. Or maybe "Senior Science Officer" since I belive there have to be a bunch of those to maintain control of such a new, expensive and powerful weapon to make sure everything is working. Since Rogue One there could be some reason behind this. Galens uniform has the straight pants too. And the advanced weapons research program must have hundereds if not thousands of officers working on the final calibration. And indeed Tarkin gets informed that "The final checkup is completed!" So maybe these guys did that checkup? A silly fan-fiction for sure - but might be something ...
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At last we get an bearded officer. It was about time
I hate to shave all the time
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Difficult to say. In my eyes I imagine to see even the brownish collar there. And the pattern is the same pattern as the Hall Walkers' tunic. If this was black, Patricia discovered yet another ANH-tunic.
And look what BIG earphones this guy wears. Impressive stuff
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The BF2 Imperial Officer's uniform definitley won the "Worst digital Interpretation"-Contest. Since they had a Chance to choose between the reference and doing it in a bad way, they decided to take the latter
And we are now about to re-create this ... thing? It is ugly, it is digital, it serves it's purpose in the game. Let's be better in reality, please
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Amazing! The Picture Shows our friend in his grey tunic but the statement tells us the tunic is black. Maybe Lucasfilm just took the wrong Picture here, thinking it was a black navy trooper?
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1 hour ago, nocternus said:
However there is still this
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We have plenty of proof that game characters do not need to be main characters in the game to get their own CRL:
https://databank.501st.com/databank/Costuming:TD_Magma_Trooper_-_Battlefront
https://databank.501st.com/databank/Costuming:TK_shocktrooper
https://databank.501st.com/databank/Costuming:TX_magmatrooper
http://databank.501st.com/databank/Costuming:TX_novatrooper
http://databank.501st.com/databank/Costuming:TX_novatrooper_elite
http://databank.501st.com/databank/Costuming:TX_novatrooper_medic
http://databank.501st.com/databank/Costuming:TX_novatrooper_sentinel
http://databank.501st.com/databank/Costuming:TX_swamptrooper
http://databank.501st.com/databank/Costuming:TX_shadow_scout
http://databank.501st.com/databank/Costuming:TX_Imperial_Navy_Commando
http://databank.501st.com/databank/Costuming:TK_incinerator
http://databank.501st.com/databank/Costuming:TK_hwt
http://databank.501st.com/databank/Costuming:TK_commander
And there are much more than only these
Concerning the pattern of that tunic (which is awful) and the FO-style pants, I can imagine putting these to Level 2 or 3. A uniform like this must be manufactured since sources like CosplaySky only offer the common one. And I do not think one would spend on a customized uniform looking as ... odd as this one.
In my humble opinion the regular uniform would fit for the basic approval together with the armor and helmet. Everything more like the game-model might be L2/L3.
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The General pattern for the Holiday Special has some similarities with the hall Walkers concerning the form of the closure (not the direction though).
We can see it on this officer here:
In a closeup you can see that the codecylinder-pockets sre made as recessed side pockets, similar to the ones at Admiral Versios tunic:
For our Hall Walkers we might adapt the closure-construction and just modify its closure-side.
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2 hours ago, captsafe66 said:
Nice work Marc. Can you post some reference pics please?
Patricia @PArmstr was the one who did most of the Research and started this Topic that was the Basis for the CRL-draft: http://www.imperialofficer.com/forum/index.php?/topic/6313-anh-enlisted-death-star-personnel-in-olive-uniform/
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This is a first draft for the so called "Hall Walkers" which are walking around the corridors of the Death Star in ANH.
Since this is just another grey sunday in january and I have a few minutes time I wrote a draft for a CRL to start a discussion. Let's see how it goes
Required Costume Components
The following costume components are present and appear as described below.
Imperial Hat, fieldgrey
For 501st approval:
• Fabric is a medium weight suiting material matching the pants and tunic if applicable.
o Gabardine style weave is most accurate.
• Base of the hat is conical, with a crown about 4" (101.6 mm) tall.
• Front and rear "flaps" overlap on the sides and are about 4" (101.6 mm) high.
• Front bill extends 3" down, decorated with 5, 6 or 7 concentric stitches.
• Imperial Code Disk is positioned in the center of the front vertical flap.For level two certification (if applicable):
• Code Disk has a notch detail on the outermost disk.
For level three certification (if applicable):
• Code disk exactly matches screen-used prop.
Tunic, fieldgrey,
For 501st approval:
• Fabric should be a medium weight, fieldgrey colored suiting material. Gabardine style weave is most accurate.
• Tunic has a right over left closure covering the closure itself.
• The standing collar has square corners and is about 1.25" (31.8 mm) tall and remains open in the middle with a width of about 1/2".
• The collar is made from brown fabric, matching the weave of the tunic.
• Sleeves are long with brown cuffs which are about 3 - 4" / 75 - 100 mm wide.
• Sleeves containing 2 seams, one along the bottom and one along the back.
• This uniform shall not have code cylinder pockets.
For level two certification (if applicable):
• The back of the tunic has princess seams that run vertically and turn outward to intersect the arm-hole seam at the vertical center.
For level three certification (if applicable):
• There is topstitching visible 1/2" / 12mm from the edge of the breast closure and it must have a lining sewn in.
Belt
For 501st approval:
• The belt is constructed from a non-textured leather or a leather-like material.
• Approximately 2" (50.8 mm) in width, up to 3" (76.2 mm) is acceptable.
• There are no loops on the belt.
• A single large snap or rivet is visible approximately 1" (25.4 mm) from the buckle.
o The belt may be worn with the snap to the right or left of the wearer.
• The buckle is constructed from a horizontally brushed metal, or metal looking material.
• The buckle size is approximately 2 5/8" (66.7 mm) high and 4 1/8" (104.5 mm) wide with 0.5" (12.7 mm) radius rounded corners.
• Buckle is adorned with an Imperial Code Disk at the center.
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o Please refer to the Imperial Buckle reference page for information on accurate and inaccurate style buckles.For level two certification (if applicable):
• Belt is made of leather.
• Snap is worn to the left of the wearer.
• Buckle is flat.
• The belt has undyed edges
Trousers, fieldgrey
For 501st approval:
• Fabric is a medium weight suiting material exactly matching the tunic and hat.
o Gabardine style weave is most accurate.
• Pockets are acceptable, although not visible with the tunic on.
• Pants are neatly pressed or ironed.
• Pants smartly rest on the top of the shoes without bunching or giving any sloppy appearance.
• there is a brown tuxedo piping on the outer seam on the sides running from top to bottom. The piping is approx. 1/4" / 6 mm wide.
Officer Shoes
For 501st approval:
• Black, non-textured, leather or leather-like material.
• Boots are free from any visible adornment, straps, buckles (etc).
• Officer shoes are only worn in conjunction with straight legged trousers.
o Not with jodhpur style pants.
o Optional: These officers may wear black Chelsea/ Jodhpur boots, similar to that of Stormtrooper boots.For level two certification (if applicable):
• Shoes are shined as would military dress shoes.- Tutanchseth, PArmstr, Hux and 3 others
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Concerning the waist you are right - the circumference-seam would make little sense next to the style of the front closure.
Here are the Pictures where I see the princess-seams:
Elevator-Scene:
Corridor-scene:
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The closure on the breast is also quite odd because men's uniforms and Shirts have a left over right closure. These have a closure that works the other way.
I have to get away from the Frankonia link quick before my wife gets some funny ideas to get a dress from them
But these Trachtenjacken really have some similarities with the Walkers' jackets. Even though they aren't from Bavaria but from Coruscant. If we take away the pockets and some of the darts and add the cuffs (maybe get the waist a bit more pronounced through the pattern) we come quite close to the film used ones.
Do you think they have a circumference-seam? It is not visible because of the belt but it really Looks like they might have one because of the fitting on the waist.
And concerning the princess-seams: yes I think they have them. And I think I see them in the pictures they walk the corridor.
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Concerning the dart-seam running from the collar downwards I think it is hard to tell whether or not it is there. The picture is not sharp enough to tell. But even if a picture is sharp enough, the dart-seam still appears to be quite inconspicious, as seen here:
Meanwhile I tried to figure out if there are codecylinder-pockets on the tunic. Same thing: either the picture is not sharp enough or the officer it too far away from the camera to tell:
I can only guess whether certain things are there or not because of some shadows in the fabric at places, the pockets would be:
Have you guys noticed the amry operations are wearing the rankbar in a lower position?
As an assumption on the Research here I think they made the tunic in two Colors but from one pattern - which would make sense from a production sight of view. Making new patterns takes time. The seams on the yoke and on the codecylinder-pockets allow you to have a better Overall Fitting because you can make certain corrections in These sports. And the guy infront of the Elevator seem to have a good Fitting tunic.
In this case we can believe that the grey tunic had the same attributes as the black one, which we now call the ANH-Staff (Fahrenheit 451).
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We can see the named High General Trech Molock sitting on Tarkins table right of Yularen. When the Death Star reaches Alderaan Tarkin gets informed by another of these grey-tunic-officers about something just before before Motti talks to Tarkin and Leia arrives. In that scene we get a good glimpse of the uniform. It has the same pattern as the ANH-Staff Officer - the "451-pattern".
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On many major events with hundreds of members in costume, we are used to have the officers to guide the groups which wear helmets. These officers are responsible for guiding the troopers through the day, organize the stops and the photo-services for the visitors. If theses officers need to wear glasses, they should keep them on all the time. They have to take care for others (troopers AND fans) which weights in far more than a costume accuracy in this moment. This was spoken from the point of an event-coordinator.
From the point of the nit-picking "Akkurazzi" (funny term here in Germany for accuracy-loving nerds) I am voting against glasses - especially for face characters. But this is a ridicolous point of view, as we are not in space but only pretending to be there
Of course the glasses shall be spared for approval-photos.
But to be realistic: we can't deny any member to wear theirs glasses because these are a medical need for some, especially for those who can't take contact lenses. If some take the glasses off for pictures it is perfectly fine and makes the photo look better. But as we can see: even in the Star Wars universe we have characters wearing glasses. This is no shame- it's human
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The face is so much better than the last one from 20 years ago. And the tunic/codecylinders/rankbar were improved too. A very nice collectible. Even though I am not allowed to have one for myself
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13 hours ago, nocternus said:
To move things along regards the generics they are not from the movie scenes they are only from gameplay, and I refer you to the charter and the passage below https://databank.501st.com/databank/Costuming:CharacterApproval
Video game characters must be part of the official storyline of the game, and cannot be player customized
If you quote the complete section, there is a bit more to read about this certain point:
Video game characters must be part of the official storyline of the game, and cannot be player customized. For example, Starkiller's Sith Stalker costume is acceptable, but a player character from Star Wars Galaxies would not be.
In my opinion this denies the possibility one can create a CRL for a custom-made character he designed himself within a game (as it is possible in many games).
But can we individually customize the generic FO-Officer? No!
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3 minutes ago, nocternus said:
Marc the poll was created because of a CRL already existed for staff officers, this is for a brand new CRL, now as you are aware someone creating a new to the legion costume only needs to go through the LMO, DL but I prefer to include IOC members, however I'm not going to take every new costume to a poll
And here a CRL for the darkgrey First Order-Officer already exists. The Battlefront 2-uniform is a variation of the movie costume which is much closer to the original, than the 451-tunic next to the Imperial tunic. That said and following your argument about the 451, there should be another poll as well about this possible CRL-creation. This would also include the members of the IOC as you have referred to in the above
Imperial "Hall Walker" Officers ANH CRL
in New CRLs
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The Color of the cuffs and the collar might also be a bit of a bronce-like color. If it moves to be more fieldgrey, it is definitly much darker and either more greenish or more brownish.
Indeed @PArmstr you are right, this color is difficult to tell. Let us all remember the scene with alle the line-officers around Tarkins conference-table: each and every uniform seems to be of a different color caused by lights, shadows and of course the renovation of the movie in 1997.