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if it is by that definition Carri, shouldn't only the Fahrenheit 451 uniforms have rank badges?  Those are the only black officer uniforms with ranks in ANH and the entire original trilogy for that matter.
 
unless.. you return this to what it was before for level 1... any and all ranks are permissible on all uniforms (provided that the correct guidance be provided: don't wear a hat as a moff, white uniforms should only be a grand admiral, none longer than 6 cubes, none taller than 2 cubes, etc).

If you want to do a specific character make it a level 2 or 3 requirement.... not level 1.

I have more when I get home, but there were a variety of black uniformed staff officers that wore double rank badges in Dark Horse comic's "Dark Times" which took place a year after the events of Revenge of the Sith.  
 
The CURRENT trend of Lucasfilm in its new movies, comics, games, and animated series is to show double rank bars existing on ALL uniforms side by side with the single rank bars.

Hello hello!
 
Something caught my eye in an ongoing staff officer build thread, and it was suggested that a CRL discussion thread be created to spin the conversation away from the poor OP's thread:
 
 
As a person extremely interested in building a staff officer in the future (I'm a sucker for black uniforms <3) and who'd wanted a captain or lieutenant plaque (purely because they're visually interesting to me) I'm... disappointed to find out that this wouldn't be possible? And I'm struggling to understand particularly why? It's a fairly dramatic change and one which I'm sure the general public won't particularly care about.
 
A call to action then! I'm fairly new to posting here regularly, so if there was previous discussion here, can those threads be linked so I can read the history behind this decision? I also appreciate that this appears to be a controversial and possibly overdone topic, and I do apologise if I'm dragging the old bones back up to pick over, but I'd honestly appreciate an explanation with refs and reasonings. I had my heart set on my two-line rank plaque!
 
Thankyou in advance!

Hello fellow officers.
 
more than two years ago, when I became a member here, I noticed (as many before and after me) that it is hard to find a pattern here for the tunic.
 
I have sewed a few of those tunics since then (as an amateur - it's just a hobby ) and I just made a small photo-documentation of my recent progress.
 
I photographed the single pieces from which the tunic will be constructed and drawed in the measurements of them. I hope this will help some of you to create an own pattern for your tunic. And even if you haven never seriously sewed before (like me more than two years ago) - just do it, give it a try. You'll like it - believe me It is such a great feeling seeing the progress of your own project. And you do not need to work it out by hook or by crook - take yourselves the time you need. This includes re-opening of some seams sometimes. But you'll to this for the better.
 
The pattern is designed for my father, so it is customized. That means the single parts are made to meet his measurement - not yours. You will need to alter them to make the tunic fit your own body.
 
My fathers measurements are: 176 cm tall, weight 76kg, chest is 108cm waist is 110cm, back from neck to hip: 42cm, arm length: 62 cm, neck-circumference: 42cm.
 
Please alway keep in mind, that we need about 10-15mm of seam-allowance at each and every edge of the fabric. Before you sew all of that together, it appears a lot larger of course  
 
The collar:
 

 
The chest-pieces:
 
Right Side:
 



 
Left Side:
 



 
Double-breast:
 


 
The arm-pieces:
 


 
The back-pieces:
 





 
Construction (where do these parts all have to be placed?):
 
Right front:
 

 
Left front and double-breast:
 

 
Back:
 

(please mind that the center-seam is just here for the Admiral Versio-Uniform. For a regular officer there is no center-seam at all!!!)
 
Arms:
 
 
 
How to start:
 
Draw on the pattern-parts and cut them out of the fabric:
 

 
Draw them on the facing again an cut those parts too:
 

 
Iron the facing onto the inner side of the fabric:
 

 
cut of the excess-facing:
 

 
 
This will be continued....

Hello fellow officers.
 
more than two years ago, when I became a member here, I noticed (as many before and after me) that it is hard to find a pattern here for the tunic.
 
I have sewed a few of those tunics since then (as an amateur - it's just a hobby ) and I just made a small photo-documentation of my recent progress.
 
I photographed the single pieces from which the tunic will be constructed and drawed in the measurements of them. I hope this will help some of you to create an own pattern for your tunic. And even if you haven never seriously sewed before (like me more than two years ago) - just do it, give it a try. You'll like it - believe me It is such a great feeling seeing the progress of your own project. And you do not need to work it out by hook or by crook - take yourselves the time you need. This includes re-opening of some seams sometimes. But you'll to this for the better.
 
The pattern is designed for my father, so it is customized. That means the single parts are made to meet his measurement - not yours. You will need to alter them to make the tunic fit your own body.
 
My fathers measurements are: 176 cm tall, weight 76kg, chest is 108cm waist is 110cm, back from neck to hip: 42cm, arm length: 62 cm, neck-circumference: 42cm.
 
Please alway keep in mind, that we need about 10-15mm of seam-allowance at each and every edge of the fabric. Before you sew all of that together, it appears a lot larger of course  
 
The collar:
 

 
The chest-pieces:
 
Right Side:
 



 
Left Side:
 



 
Double-breast:
 


 
The arm-pieces:
 


 
The back-pieces:
 





 
Construction (where do these parts all have to be placed?):
 
Right front:
 

 
Left front and double-breast:
 

 
Back:
 

(please mind that the center-seam is just here for the Admiral Versio-Uniform. For a regular officer there is no center-seam at all!!!)
 
Arms:
 
 
 
How to start:
 
Draw on the pattern-parts and cut them out of the fabric:
 

 
Draw them on the facing again an cut those parts too:
 

 
Iron the facing onto the inner side of the fabric:
 

 
cut of the excess-facing:
 

 
 
This will be continued....

Hello fellow officers.
 
more than two years ago, when I became a member here, I noticed (as many before and after me) that it is hard to find a pattern here for the tunic.
 
I have sewed a few of those tunics since then (as an amateur - it's just a hobby ) and I just made a small photo-documentation of my recent progress.
 
I photographed the single pieces from which the tunic will be constructed and drawed in the measurements of them. I hope this will help some of you to create an own pattern for your tunic. And even if you haven never seriously sewed before (like me more than two years ago) - just do it, give it a try. You'll like it - believe me It is such a great feeling seeing the progress of your own project. And you do not need to work it out by hook or by crook - take yourselves the time you need. This includes re-opening of some seams sometimes. But you'll to this for the better.
 
The pattern is designed for my father, so it is customized. That means the single parts are made to meet his measurement - not yours. You will need to alter them to make the tunic fit your own body.
 
My fathers measurements are: 176 cm tall, weight 76kg, chest is 108cm waist is 110cm, back from neck to hip: 42cm, arm length: 62 cm, neck-circumference: 42cm.
 
Please alway keep in mind, that we need about 10-15mm of seam-allowance at each and every edge of the fabric. Before you sew all of that together, it appears a lot larger of course  
 
The collar:
 

 
The chest-pieces:
 
Right Side:
 



 
Left Side:
 



 
Double-breast:
 


 
The arm-pieces:
 


 
The back-pieces:
 





 
Construction (where do these parts all have to be placed?):
 
Right front:
 

 
Left front and double-breast:
 

 
Back:
 

(please mind that the center-seam is just here for the Admiral Versio-Uniform. For a regular officer there is no center-seam at all!!!)
 
Arms:
 
 
 
How to start:
 
Draw on the pattern-parts and cut them out of the fabric:
 

 
Draw them on the facing again an cut those parts too:
 

 
Iron the facing onto the inner side of the fabric:
 

 
cut of the excess-facing:
 

 
 
This will be continued....

Hello fellow officers.
 
more than two years ago, when I became a member here, I noticed (as many before and after me) that it is hard to find a pattern here for the tunic.
 
I have sewed a few of those tunics since then (as an amateur - it's just a hobby ) and I just made a small photo-documentation of my recent progress.
 
I photographed the single pieces from which the tunic will be constructed and drawed in the measurements of them. I hope this will help some of you to create an own pattern for your tunic. And even if you haven never seriously sewed before (like me more than two years ago) - just do it, give it a try. You'll like it - believe me It is such a great feeling seeing the progress of your own project. And you do not need to work it out by hook or by crook - take yourselves the time you need. This includes re-opening of some seams sometimes. But you'll to this for the better.
 
The pattern is designed for my father, so it is customized. That means the single parts are made to meet his measurement - not yours. You will need to alter them to make the tunic fit your own body.
 
My fathers measurements are: 176 cm tall, weight 76kg, chest is 108cm waist is 110cm, back from neck to hip: 42cm, arm length: 62 cm, neck-circumference: 42cm.
 
Please alway keep in mind, that we need about 10-15mm of seam-allowance at each and every edge of the fabric. Before you sew all of that together, it appears a lot larger of course  
 
The collar:
 

 
The chest-pieces:
 
Right Side:
 



 
Left Side:
 



 
Double-breast:
 


 
The arm-pieces:
 


 
The back-pieces:
 





 
Construction (where do these parts all have to be placed?):
 
Right front:
 

 
Left front and double-breast:
 

 
Back:
 

(please mind that the center-seam is just here for the Admiral Versio-Uniform. For a regular officer there is no center-seam at all!!!)
 
Arms:
 
 
 
How to start:
 
Draw on the pattern-parts and cut them out of the fabric:
 

 
Draw them on the facing again an cut those parts too:
 

 
Iron the facing onto the inner side of the fabric:
 

 
cut of the excess-facing:
 

 
 
This will be continued....

@Cosmic vielleicht noch ein paar Schnittmuster zur Ergänzung.

Thank you for sharing. 

Hello fellow officers.
 
more than two years ago, when I became a member here, I noticed (as many before and after me) that it is hard to find a pattern here for the tunic.
 
I have sewed a few of those tunics since then (as an amateur - it's just a hobby ) and I just made a small photo-documentation of my recent progress.
 
I photographed the single pieces from which the tunic will be constructed and drawed in the measurements of them. I hope this will help some of you to create an own pattern for your tunic. And even if you haven never seriously sewed before (like me more than two years ago) - just do it, give it a try. You'll like it - believe me It is such a great feeling seeing the progress of your own project. And you do not need to work it out by hook or by crook - take yourselves the time you need. This includes re-opening of some seams sometimes. But you'll to this for the better.
 
The pattern is designed for my father, so it is customized. That means the single parts are made to meet his measurement - not yours. You will need to alter them to make the tunic fit your own body.
 
My fathers measurements are: 176 cm tall, weight 76kg, chest is 108cm waist is 110cm, back from neck to hip: 42cm, arm length: 62 cm, neck-circumference: 42cm.
 
Please alway keep in mind, that we need about 10-15mm of seam-allowance at each and every edge of the fabric. Before you sew all of that together, it appears a lot larger of course  
 
The collar:
 

 
The chest-pieces:
 
Right Side:
 



 
Left Side:
 



 
Double-breast:
 


 
The arm-pieces:
 


 
The back-pieces:
 





 
Construction (where do these parts all have to be placed?):
 
Right front:
 

 
Left front and double-breast:
 

 
Back:
 

(please mind that the center-seam is just here for the Admiral Versio-Uniform. For a regular officer there is no center-seam at all!!!)
 
Arms:
 
 
 
How to start:
 
Draw on the pattern-parts and cut them out of the fabric:
 

 
Draw them on the facing again an cut those parts too:
 

 
Iron the facing onto the inner side of the fabric:
 

 
cut of the excess-facing:
 

 
 
This will be continued....

Hello fellow officers.
 
more than two years ago, when I became a member here, I noticed (as many before and after me) that it is hard to find a pattern here for the tunic.
 
I have sewed a few of those tunics since then (as an amateur - it's just a hobby ) and I just made a small photo-documentation of my recent progress.
 
I photographed the single pieces from which the tunic will be constructed and drawed in the measurements of them. I hope this will help some of you to create an own pattern for your tunic. And even if you haven never seriously sewed before (like me more than two years ago) - just do it, give it a try. You'll like it - believe me It is such a great feeling seeing the progress of your own project. And you do not need to work it out by hook or by crook - take yourselves the time you need. This includes re-opening of some seams sometimes. But you'll to this for the better.
 
The pattern is designed for my father, so it is customized. That means the single parts are made to meet his measurement - not yours. You will need to alter them to make the tunic fit your own body.
 
My fathers measurements are: 176 cm tall, weight 76kg, chest is 108cm waist is 110cm, back from neck to hip: 42cm, arm length: 62 cm, neck-circumference: 42cm.
 
Please alway keep in mind, that we need about 10-15mm of seam-allowance at each and every edge of the fabric. Before you sew all of that together, it appears a lot larger of course  
 
The collar:
 

 
The chest-pieces:
 
Right Side:
 



 
Left Side:
 



 
Double-breast:
 


 
The arm-pieces:
 


 
The back-pieces:
 





 
Construction (where do these parts all have to be placed?):
 
Right front:
 

 
Left front and double-breast:
 

 
Back:
 

(please mind that the center-seam is just here for the Admiral Versio-Uniform. For a regular officer there is no center-seam at all!!!)
 
Arms:
 
 
 
How to start:
 
Draw on the pattern-parts and cut them out of the fabric:
 

 
Draw them on the facing again an cut those parts too:
 

 
Iron the facing onto the inner side of the fabric:
 

 
cut of the excess-facing:
 

 
 
This will be continued....

not sure if things like this have been shown before.  we should have a repository of printable patterns for jackets.

Hello fellow officers.
 
more than two years ago, when I became a member here, I noticed (as many before and after me) that it is hard to find a pattern here for the tunic.
 
I have sewed a few of those tunics since then (as an amateur - it's just a hobby ) and I just made a small photo-documentation of my recent progress.
 
I photographed the single pieces from which the tunic will be constructed and drawed in the measurements of them. I hope this will help some of you to create an own pattern for your tunic. And even if you haven never seriously sewed before (like me more than two years ago) - just do it, give it a try. You'll like it - believe me It is such a great feeling seeing the progress of your own project. And you do not need to work it out by hook or by crook - take yourselves the time you need. This includes re-opening of some seams sometimes. But you'll to this for the better.
 
The pattern is designed for my father, so it is customized. That means the single parts are made to meet his measurement - not yours. You will need to alter them to make the tunic fit your own body.
 
My fathers measurements are: 176 cm tall, weight 76kg, chest is 108cm waist is 110cm, back from neck to hip: 42cm, arm length: 62 cm, neck-circumference: 42cm.
 
Please alway keep in mind, that we need about 10-15mm of seam-allowance at each and every edge of the fabric. Before you sew all of that together, it appears a lot larger of course  
 
The collar:
 

 
The chest-pieces:
 
Right Side:
 



 
Left Side:
 



 
Double-breast:
 


 
The arm-pieces:
 


 
The back-pieces:
 





 
Construction (where do these parts all have to be placed?):
 
Right front:
 

 
Left front and double-breast:
 

 
Back:
 

(please mind that the center-seam is just here for the Admiral Versio-Uniform. For a regular officer there is no center-seam at all!!!)
 
Arms:
 
 
 
How to start:
 
Draw on the pattern-parts and cut them out of the fabric:
 

 
Draw them on the facing again an cut those parts too:
 

 
Iron the facing onto the inner side of the fabric:
 

 
cut of the excess-facing:
 

 
 
This will be continued....

Hello fellow officers.
 
more than two years ago, when I became a member here, I noticed (as many before and after me) that it is hard to find a pattern here for the tunic.
 
I have sewed a few of those tunics since then (as an amateur - it's just a hobby ) and I just made a small photo-documentation of my recent progress.
 
I photographed the single pieces from which the tunic will be constructed and drawed in the measurements of them. I hope this will help some of you to create an own pattern for your tunic. And even if you haven never seriously sewed before (like me more than two years ago) - just do it, give it a try. You'll like it - believe me It is such a great feeling seeing the progress of your own project. And you do not need to work it out by hook or by crook - take yourselves the time you need. This includes re-opening of some seams sometimes. But you'll to this for the better.
 
The pattern is designed for my father, so it is customized. That means the single parts are made to meet his measurement - not yours. You will need to alter them to make the tunic fit your own body.
 
My fathers measurements are: 176 cm tall, weight 76kg, chest is 108cm waist is 110cm, back from neck to hip: 42cm, arm length: 62 cm, neck-circumference: 42cm.
 
Please alway keep in mind, that we need about 10-15mm of seam-allowance at each and every edge of the fabric. Before you sew all of that together, it appears a lot larger of course  
 
The collar:
 

 
The chest-pieces:
 
Right Side:
 



 
Left Side:
 



 
Double-breast:
 


 
The arm-pieces:
 


 
The back-pieces:
 





 
Construction (where do these parts all have to be placed?):
 
Right front:
 

 
Left front and double-breast:
 

 
Back:
 

(please mind that the center-seam is just here for the Admiral Versio-Uniform. For a regular officer there is no center-seam at all!!!)
 
Arms:
 
 
 
How to start:
 
Draw on the pattern-parts and cut them out of the fabric:
 

 
Draw them on the facing again an cut those parts too:
 

 
Iron the facing onto the inner side of the fabric:
 

 
cut of the excess-facing:
 

 
 
This will be continued....

It´s difficult to transform the Rebels Thrawn to reality cause we don´t know why the changes were made. Was it to draw him easier, like the epaulettes (am i reading this right in the pucture above that they are made of metal? ) or was it something they wanted to change like the collar patches or the additional seam on the shoulder.
 
I´d really like to transform my actual Thrawn in the Rebels Version, but i also think it´s better to wait for season 3 to get more pictures of him and develop an alternative CRL.

I have the TFA book as well, and there are two high ranking officer types within the first order, Generals and Admirals. They differ only by the rank insignias, the outer lining for the General is black, for Admirals red.
 
The uniforms in the back of the speech scene are really confusing (except the two lieutenants on the far left, with there flashing code cylinders. The rest is unclear. The uniform of the officers in the blue box Looks like some sort of tunic like the style of the OT, but the officers in the red square are wearing a type of uniform similar to Hux.
Would be nice to know some other names of the actors in the scene. Bern is labeled as a FO-general in the imdb, but the entries there are not official.

In the Aftermath trilogy it seems like the ISB has it´s own fleet. If this is correct, it would make sense to give the relkated personnel fleet-related ranks. It would also fit perfectly to the story.
 
What annoys me the most is the useless center seam in the back of the tunic. I had a discussion for months last year with about this during the approval of a line officer (that i won of course). Now it´s introduced with this... Thing.

They have recognized this when they wrote the Rogue One visual guide. concerning the rank-Plaques they said, these would be "sector-specific"  That got them out of that problem  
 
This may mean that you were a General on Bothawui and become a Floorchief on Cato Neimodia with one design of a rank-plaque only  

I guess I state the same here as I did in our German Garrisons forum: if everyone posts his participation here, this will become a veeeeery big thread within the month of october  
 
And by the way: done  

501st Legion Census has begun, it is the responsibility of all 501st approved members to fill out the census each year which you can find here   https://www.501st.com/memberDB/
 
You must be registered on the main forums to participate in the census http://www.501st.com/forum/index.php
 
Here's what the charter says about activity definitions: Operations Protocol/Membership http://www.501st.com/databank/OperationsProtocol#Section_2:_Membership
 
An Active Member is defined as a member in good standing who meets the following requirements:
• Meets all 501st Membership Requirements (i.e. ownership of an approved costume, is over 18 years of age, etc).
• Has an approved membership record in the 501st Legion Membership Database
• Maintains active contact with their Garrison CO or GML. Active contact and participation will be confirmed during the annual Legion Census held each year during the month of October.
• Maintains contact information/membership record in the 501st Legion database either through their Garrison CO or GML.
• Participates in at least one Garrison or Legion activity per year while wearing an approved 501st costume owned by said member as recorded in the Legion Census. (One year is defined as the period from Legion Census to Legion Census). Examples of an activity include, but are not limited to conventions, charity events, or any activity designated as an official event by a coordinating administrative unit of the Legion.
• Members who serve in military branches are exempt from activity level requirements if their service renders them unable to meet these requirements.
 
These Minimum Activity Level Requirements should be administered as justly and with as much common sense as possible.
 
A member may retain active status, even if they do not meet all of the requirements listed above at the discretion of their unit Commanding Officer or Legion Command.
 
Filling out the census only takes a few minutes and you also have the opportunity to update your contact information ie: address, email, phone and so on.
 
The LAST EVENT TROOPED is the most important piece of data. If it is not within the last 12 months of the census, you may be marked RESERVE, which will mean you will not be able to vote in the next election.
 
Any questions you have in regards to the census please contact either your GCO (garrison commanding officer) or your GML (garrison membership liaison)
 
So stand up and be counted troopers.
 

Then let's stop the debate - let's go to work

We'll have hopefully more pictures as soon as the game releases. 
 
The question for a possible CRL, generic ISB admiral or Admiral Versio? I guess the later one would be more appropriate? 

We got our first real look at Admiral Versio from the new Battlefront 2 game today.  He'll be giving missions to Inferno squad around the time of Return of the Jedi.  His uniform is a fusion of the ANH and the Rogue One ISB tunics.  More photos to follow.

Not as many sew lines on the hat either.

I´d suggest a new CRL. Although it´s 'only' an other variant of the ISB uniform, it´ll be difficult to get the information ot of a CRL that tries to illustrate three different versions of a costume. I know that this is en vogue in other detachments, but IMHO it makes them nearly unreadable.
 
As a quick shot i´d also suggest to put the unnecessary (and ugly) center-seam in a possible Lvl 3 requirement so it´s up to the creator wether or not to add it to the uniform.