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    Paggeldiwwer got a reaction from PArmstr in Admiral Versio - Battlefront 2   
    That's the Point. As I am sewing the uniform for my father, I will sew a lining in. The question is more General. If we can not prove the original ISB's to have a lining, nor will we ever be able to say if an animated tunic has one shall we still make it a requirement at all or shall we say something like you did "a lining is preferred for comfort but not required" at level 3?
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    Paggeldiwwer got a reaction from Demon4x4 in CRL suggestion Seperate "Rogue One ISB-Officer"   
    Looking trough the glasses of a GML, I have to say the actual ISB-CRL is very confusing because it contains two separate costumes and many options. The headline sometimes state the movie they are meant for in fat letters, sometimes a line below the header in thin letters. You have to jump back and forth to make sure the applicants combinations of costume is correct. If a GML makes such an experience, I do not wonder if an applicant faces such problems too.
     
    That's why I am happy to see @StevenStefans proposal for having a single CRL for Rogue One and @PArmstrPatricias efforts for the ANH-ISB-CRL. Splitting these two costumes into two separate CRL's makes sense to me and will make it a lot easier to get along with the costume check.
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    Paggeldiwwer reacted to Tutanchseth in Admiral Versio - Battlefront 2   
    I'd also keep the lining in there and if it's just for the wearing comfort. We haven't seen an open uniform in the game and I think it'll stay this way, but IMO we can assume they'd add it.
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    Paggeldiwwer reacted to Hask in Admiral Versio - Battlefront 2   
    Basic, A lining is preferred but not required. it would be uncomfortable not having one anyway so I cant see many making a tunic without 
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    Paggeldiwwer got a reaction from Tutanchseth in Admiral Versio - Battlefront 2   
    Done!
    I also edited the number of required Dosimeters to two and also the possible Dosimeter-types since Versios code-cylinders are blue topped and not rod-style or something else.
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    Paggeldiwwer got a reaction from pben in CRL suggestion Seperate "Rogue One ISB-Officer"   
    Looking trough the glasses of a GML, I have to say the actual ISB-CRL is very confusing because it contains two separate costumes and many options. The headline sometimes state the movie they are meant for in fat letters, sometimes a line below the header in thin letters. You have to jump back and forth to make sure the applicants combinations of costume is correct. If a GML makes such an experience, I do not wonder if an applicant faces such problems too.
     
    That's why I am happy to see @StevenStefans proposal for having a single CRL for Rogue One and @PArmstrPatricias efforts for the ANH-ISB-CRL. Splitting these two costumes into two separate CRL's makes sense to me and will make it a lot easier to get along with the costume check.
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    Paggeldiwwer got a reaction from PArmstr in Admiral Versio - Battlefront 2   
    Concerning the lining of the tunic here: we do not have a reference that will proof a lining of the characters tunic here. One could say, the standard ISB-tunic is lined. But with the reference @PArmstr Patricia has provided in the ANH-ISB-CRL-topic, we can not be 100% sure the original tunic of the ISB was lined, too.
    Still the lining would be Level 3 here. Shall this remain?
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    Paggeldiwwer reacted to Tutanchseth in CRL suggestion Seperate "Rogue One ISB-Officer"   
    I think it was Glenn Dillon himself that stated that the Rank sheet he posted from Rogue One was also used for Solo. So it's most likely that they also use the same uniforms.
    And regarding your CRL proposal I agree 100% with you and Marc.
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    Paggeldiwwer got a reaction from PArmstr in CRL suggestion Seperate "Rogue One ISB-Officer"   
    Looking trough the glasses of a GML, I have to say the actual ISB-CRL is very confusing because it contains two separate costumes and many options. The headline sometimes state the movie they are meant for in fat letters, sometimes a line below the header in thin letters. You have to jump back and forth to make sure the applicants combinations of costume is correct. If a GML makes such an experience, I do not wonder if an applicant faces such problems too.
     
    That's why I am happy to see @StevenStefans proposal for having a single CRL for Rogue One and @PArmstrPatricias efforts for the ANH-ISB-CRL. Splitting these two costumes into two separate CRL's makes sense to me and will make it a lot easier to get along with the costume check.
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    Paggeldiwwer reacted to Steven in CRL suggestion Seperate "Rogue One ISB-Officer"   
    Well there was enough evidenve and reference to add the R1 Version to the current ISB CRL, so I think it should be enough for a seperate CRL. I'm not sure if SOLO will show us some more of these kind of uniforms. Would be great, no doubt, I would simply not count on it.
     
     
    @Paggeldiwwer Marc is absolutely right, especially for a newbie it is hard to find the required information without getting confused. And if it's even difficult for a GML, I think this says something about it.
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    Paggeldiwwer reacted to Steven in CRL suggestion Seperate "Rogue One ISB-Officer"   
    I updated this post and the proposed CRL.
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    Paggeldiwwer reacted to Tutanchseth in CRL suggestion Seperate "Rogue One ISB-Officer"   
    As I mentioned minutes ago on the other ISB CRL thread, with all the reseearch done by Patricia this CRL draft should also be released. Both uniforms may share the same progenitor, but developed in very different ways. IMHO different enough to be split in own CRLs. Hopefuily we see one of these in May on the big screen to get more pictures.
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    Paggeldiwwer reacted to Tutanchseth in Possible ISB ANH CRL   
    I just read your research thread again and it's detailing is awesome. If we consider all you managed to research I'll support to split the different versions of the ISB in two seperate CRLs. Maybe it could fit in one CRL if the new system is used, but I think two seperate CRLs are clearer to read.
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    Paggeldiwwer reacted to Steven in CRL suggestion Seperate "Rogue One ISB-Officer"   
    Edited and updated on 26th February 2018
     
     
    As Patricia ( @PArmstr ) is currently creating an own ANH ISB Officer CRL I thought I give this old proposal of mine from about a year ago another try. It's about a seperate CRL for the Rogue One ISB Officer which is, as we all know, very different from the ANH version and that's why I think it deserves an own CRL. Especially if the ANH Version gets the update suggested by Patricia. To me this would it make easier for new members to keep apart these two types of uniform.
     
    I now renamed this into "Rogue One ISB-Officer"
    (-My suggestions for a new CRL regarding Inspector General Bozeden Jeems from Rogue One.)
     
    I made this CRL suggestion from a combination of the requirements of the existing CRL and added the features that are special for the R1 ISB Officer:
     
    Imperial Hat, black
      For 501st approval: Fabric is a medium weight suiting material matching the pants and tunic if applicable. Gabardine style weave is most accurate. Base of the hat is conical, with a crown about 4" (101.6 mm) tall. Front and rear "flaps" overlap on the sides and are about 4" (101.6 mm) high. Front bill extends 3" down, decorated with 5, 6 or 7 concentric stitches. Imperial Code Disk is positioned in the center of the front vertical flap.   
    For level two certification (if applicable): Code Disk has a notch detail on the outermost disk. For level three certification (if applicable): Code disk exactly matches screen-used prop.  
     
    Tunic, White
    For 501st approval: Fabric should be a medium weight, white suiting material. Gabardine style weave is most accurate. Use the same type of material as that of the pants. Tunic is double-breasted with a left over right closure on the tapered yoke. Yoke comes up across the shoulder to the top shoulder seam. The standing collar has square corners and is between 1.25" (31.8 mm) to 2" (50.8) tall dependent on wearers neck size Collar closes snugly and includes a modesty panel behind closure. Collar edges are closed with two eye hooks. There are code cylinder pockets on both outside panels of the jacket from about half way between the top and bottom on the arm hole. Sleeves are long, and without decoration, cuffs or buttons. Sleeves contain 2 seams; one along the bottom and one along the back. Tunic is constructed with no top-stitching (stitches visible on the exterior surface of fabric) Hook and eye fasteners on the uniform should not be visible.   
    For level two certification (if applicable): There is a dart of about 2" (50.8 mm) in the top center of the yoke. There is a seam running the entire circumference of the tunic, dividing it along a line hidden by the uniform belt. The back of the tunic has princess seams that run vertically and turn outward to intersect the arm-hole seam at the vertical center.  
    For level three certification (if applicable): Tunic is secured on the right side by snaps or buttons; not hook and loop fastener (Velcro). There is no top-stitching visible anywhere. A lining is sewn in.  
    Rank Bar
    For 501st approval:
    · Three red and one blue tile.
    · Worn on the left side of the tunic over the heart.
    · Rank consists of colored plastic tiles mounted on metal bar.
    · Each bar is 1" (25.4 mm) height.
    · Rank tile dimensions are 1/2" (12.7 mm)width x 3/4" (19 mm) height and about 1/8" (3.2 mm).
    · Tiles are mounted with 1/4" (6.4 mm) spaces between them.
    · Rank tiles are translucent.
     
    For level two certification (if applicable): Belt box, code cylinder, and rank badge configuration is consistent with film canon officers.   For level three certification (if applicable): Rank consists of colored plastic push buttons mounted on a metal bar.  

     
    Code Cylinders, Rogue One-Style
      For 501st approval: 2 per costume may be worn one in each pocket Modified: silver "chalk holder" tube with short clip, top is colored Blue. Dosimeter style: True Dosimeter with correct clip and Blue top.  
    For level two certification (if applicable): Only real or replica dosimeters are used. Dosimeters have a silver, non-brass, clip  
    Belt
      For 501st approval: The belt is constructed from a non-textured leather or a leather-like material. Approximately 2" (50.8 mm) in width, up to 3" (76.2 mm) is acceptable. There are no loops on the belt. A single large snap or rivet is visible approximately 1" (25.4 mm) from the buckle. The belt may be worn with the snap to the right or left of the wearer. The buckle is constructed from a horizontally brushed metal, or metal looking material. The buckle size is approximately 2 5/8" (66.7 mm) high and 4 1/8" (104.5 mm) wide with 0.5" (12.7 mm) radius rounded corners. Buckle is adorned with an Imperial Code Disk at the center. Please refer to the Imperial Buckle reference page for information on accurate and inaccurate style buckles.  
    For level two certification (if applicable): Belt is made of leather. Snap is worn to the left of the wearer. Buckle has a slight horizontal curve.  
    For level three certification (if applicable): Belt has two grooves carved into the belt, about 0,19" (5mm) from the edge of the belt.  

     
    Belt Boxes, Rogue One
    For 501st approval:
    Rogue one boxes are not optional and are smaller than A New Hope-Belt Boxes Dimensions are approximately  2" (50,8mm) wide by 3" (76.2 mm) tall by 1" x  (25,4mm) thick One box to be worn vertically on either side of the belt buckle.   
     
    Jodhpur Trousers, black
    For 501st approval:
    Fabric is a medium weight suiting material exactly matching the tunic and hat. Gabardine style weave is most accurate. Flared riding breeches are canon. Breeches must be worn with boots. Pockets are acceptable, although they are not visible with the tunic on.   
    Officer Boots
    For 501st approval:
    For 501st approval: Knee-high, black, lace-less, smooth non-textured, leather or leather-like material. Rubber is not acceptable. PVC or synthetic material is allowed as long as it gives the appearance of leather. There are no stretch panels, buckles, snap tabs, or decoration. Boots have conservative heels. If zippers are present, they are hidden on the inner part of the boot shaft. Not visible from the front, side or back. The top of the boots may be flat or Spanish Style, but not Cowboy or Super Hero (pointed at the front) style.   
    For level two certification (if applicable): Boots do not have a zipper. For level three certification (if applicable): Boots are made of leather. Not vinyl or PVC. Exact replicas of English riding (dress) boots or Equestrian boots.  
    Optional Accessories
    Black Gloves
    Black, wrist length gloves constructed of a non-textured leather or leather-like material. Enclosed fingers. No buckles, straps, etc.  
    To me this the reference for black gloves:

     
    It does not look like he has bare hands. But I would still make this optional.
     
    This is my updated suggestion for a seperate R1 ISB Officer CRL.
     
     
    Greetings
    Steven
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    Paggeldiwwer reacted to PArmstr in Possible ISB ANH CRL   
    Here are some female patterns that might be a good starting point for female officer tunics. Some are better starting points then others because they need less altering. It all depends on the tunic you want to create, your clothing size, your body shape and your skill set. This list is of course not all inclusive. There are many more possible patterns.
     
    These patterns will help me to demonstrate the princess seams and darts on the front of the tunic I am talking about. They show how common these seams and darts are in female patterns. Many of these are also used in male patterns as well.
     
    The green lines are round princess seams. The red lines are straight princess seams. The blue lined are darts under the bust and the purple line are darts on the side of the bust.
     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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    Paggeldiwwer reacted to Steven in Possible ISB ANH CRL   
    I asked about a seperate CRL when I did a R1 ISB as one of the first members of the IOC but Kris told me it would only be added to the current ISB CRL as an alternative version.
     
    So I highly appreciate your efford on the ANH ISB and I myself wrote a R1 ISB CRL before but it was not used. At least the tunic in the CRL for the R1 version is mine  don't worry about collecting information about the R1 version, I feel secure enough to say that I have what it needs for it. And I would love to see both versions with an own CRL, I'm just not sure if it will happen...
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    Paggeldiwwer reacted to PArmstr in Possible ISB ANH CRL   
    Yes and no. The former ANH ISB CRL does no longer exist due to the fact that it now is a general ISB CRL because the Rogue One ISB information was added. Since the tunics are very different there should be a CRL for each version of the ISB officer to clear up the CRLs. There are also some minor differences between the two ISB versions, such as belt box size, extra groves on belts and other little details.
     
    I hope that will help future ISBs. My proposal is for the ISB ANH CRL. As far as I know nobody has started on an ISB RO CRL. I would prefer that someone else dreates that one due to the fact that I am not very familiar with the Rogue One uniforms and do not have the time to do the extra research on them.
     
    Thank you, Marc. I have found some more interesting information about these unique uniforms during the weekend, which I will add to my research thread. For instance I now know why the 1907 version is not white.
     
    I will add some grafics of which types of darts and princess seams that I have in mind. I have three burda patterns that show what I mean.
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    Paggeldiwwer got a reaction from PArmstr in Possible ISB ANH CRL   
    As always, Patricia, you have done an awesome Research. Congratulations  

    One thing is not clear to me yet:
    At which positions can the princess-seams be placed in the front? Left and right of the breast I guess, right?
     
    The reference concerning a missing lining is great. I was not aware of this  
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    Paggeldiwwer reacted to PArmstr in Possible ISB ANH CRL   
    Thank you for complements. I added more links to my research if you want to see all the photos of the tunics and read a little bit of back round information.
     
    I catually forgot something in the CRL. I still have the slit-pleat-thingy that started the whole process of my research. I added it to level 2 in the color purple.
     
     
    Required Costume Components
    The following costume components are present and appear as described below.
     
     
    Imperial Hat, black
    For 501st approval:
     
    Fabric is a medium weight suiting material matching the pants and tunic if applicable. Gabardine style weave is most accurate. Base of the hat is conical, with a crown about 4" (101.6 mm) tall. Front and rear "flaps" overlap on the sides and are about 4" (101.6 mm) high. Front bill extends 3" down, decorated with 5, 6 or 7 concentric stitches. Imperial Code Disk is positioned in the center of the front vertical flap.   
    For level two certification (if applicable):
     
    Code Disk has a notch detail on the outermost disk.  
    For level three certification (if applicable):
     
    Code disk exactly matches screen-used prop.  
     
    Tunic
    For 501st approval:
     
    The tunic should be a off white or cream color Tunic is double-breasted with a left over right closure on the tapered yoke. Yoke comes straight across from the collar center not coming up to the shoulder seam. The standing collar has square corners. It covers ½ or 2/3 of the neck. It closes with two hooks and eyse or one large hook. It does not have a modesty panel. Sleeves are long, and without decoration, cuffs or buttons, containing 2 seams, one along the bottom and one along the back. (moved to level 3) The ISB uniform shall not have the standard code cylinder pockets. Princess seams on the back shall be optional for this tunic. Darts and princess seams on the front are permitted for a better fit of the tunic A seam running the entire circumference of the tunic, dividing the top from the skirt is optional.  
    For level two certification (if applicable):
     
    There is a dart that goes from the top center of the yoke to bout the height of the rank bar. The point of the yoke goes slightly up to the shoulder There is a slit with pleats on the back of the skirt that goes from the waist seam all the way to the hem.  
    For level three certification (if applicable):
     
    There is a seam running the entire circumference of the tunic, dividing it along a line hidden by the uniform belt. The back of the tunic has princess seams that run vertically and turn outward to intersect the arm-hole seam at the vertical center. There is a seam that runs down the middle of the back Sleeves have a seam that slits the sleeve into a upper sleeve and a lower sleeve The sleeves have cuffs. The material of the tunic is wool Lining is optional. Tunic must be secured on the right side by snaps or buttons, not Velcro. There is no topstitching visible anywhere and it must have a lining sewn in.  
     
    Rank Bar
    For 501st approval:
     
    See the Imperial Rank Bar page for more information. Worn on the left side of the tunic over the heart. Rank consists of colored plastic tiles mounted on metal bar. Each bar is 1" (25.4 mm) height, length is determined by chosen rank Rank tile dimensions are 1/2" (12.7 mm)width x 3/4" (19 mm) height and about 1/8" (3.2 mm). Tiles are mounted with 1/4" (6.4 mm) spaces between them. Rank tiles are translucent. There are either three red & three blue, or three blue & three red rank tiles  
    For level two certification (if applicable):
     
    ·Belt box, code cylinder, and rank badge configuration is consistent with film canon officers.  
    For level three certification (if applicable):
     
    Rank consists of colored plastic push buttons mounted on a metal bar.  
     
    Belt
    For 501st approval:
     
    The belt is constructed from a non-textured leather or a leather-like material. Approximately 2" (50.8 mm) in width, up to 3" (76.2 mm) is acceptable. There are no loops on the belt. A single large snap or rivet is visible approximately 1" (25.4 mm) from the buckle. The belt may be worn with the snap to the right or left of the wearer. The buckle is constructed from a horizontally brushed metal, or metal looking material. The buckle size is approximately 2 5/8" (66.7 mm) high and 4 1/8" (104.5 mm) wide with 0.5" (12.7 mm) radius rounded corners. Buckle is adorned with an Imperial Code Disk at the center    Please refer to the Imperial Buckle reference page for information on accurate and inaccurate style buckles.  
    For level two certification (if applicable):
     
    Belt is made of leather. Snap is worn to the left of the wearer. Buckle has a slight horizontal curve.  
     
     Trousers version 1 breeches/jodphurs
    For 501st approval:
     
    Fabric is a medium weight suiting material exactly matching the tunic and hat. Gabardine style weave is most accurate. Flared riding breeches are canon. Breeches must be worn with boots. Pockets are acceptable, although they are not visible with the tunic on.   
     
    Foot wear version 1 riding boots
     
    For 501st approval:
     
    Knee-high, black, lace-less, smooth non-textured, leather or leather-like material. Rubber is not acceptable. PVC or synthetic material is allowed as long as it gives the appearance of leather. There are no stretch panels, buckles, snap tabs, or decoration. Boots have conservative heels. If zippers are present, they are hidden on the inner part of the boot shaft. Not visible from the front, side or back. The top of the boots may be flat or Spanish Style, but not Cowboy or Super Hero (pointed at the front) style.   
    For level two certification (if applicable):
     
    Boots do not have a zipper.  
    For level three certification (if applicable):
     
    Boots are made of leather. Not vinyl or PVC. Exact replicas of English riding (dress) boots or Equestrian boots  
     
    Optional Accessories
    Items below are optional costume accessories. These items are not required for approval, but if present appear as described below. If adding in an accessory after initial approval, the item still needs to be submitted to local GML for approval before use.
     
     
    Dress shirt
    For 501st approval:
     
    ·         A white dress shirt may be worn under the tunic.
    ·         The top of the collar and sleeve cuffs may be slightly visible, protruding from under the collar & sleeves of the tunic.
     
     
    Belt Boxes
    For 501st approval:
     
    Dimensions are approximately 2 1/2" (63.5 mm) by 3 1/2" (88.9 mm) by 1" (25.4 mm) thick.. Two boxes may be worn horizontally. The belt boxes are placed between the belt buckle and the side seam of the tunic but are closer to the side seam. Placement of the screw / rivet for the belt boxes should be on the shortest side (top and bottom for vertical belt boxes, left and right for horizontal) An uneven number of boxes is incorrect. Box surfaces are smooth and have no decoration/ hinges/ visible holes or slots that do not appear on the screen-used boxes.  
    For level two certification (if applicable):
     
    There is a covering on the back of each box with a slightly overlapping lip that is approximately 1/4” (6.35 mm). Covering is secured by a rivets or small screws, on the top and on the bottom.  
     
    Trousers, black version 2 dress pants
     
    For 501st approval:
     
     Fabric is a medium weight suiting material exactly matching the tunic and hat. Gabardine style weave is most accurate. Pockets are acceptable, although not visible with the tunic on. Pants are neatly pressed or ironed. Pants smartly rest on the top of the shoes without bunching or giving any sloppy appearance.   
     
    Foots wear version 2 officer dress shoes
    For 501st approval:
     
    Black, non-textured, leather or leather-like material. Boots are free from any visible adornment, straps, buckles (etc). Officer shoes are only worn in conjunction with straight legged trousers. Not with jodhpur style pants. Optional: These officers may wear black Chelsea/ Jodhpur boots, similar to that of Stormtrooper boots.  
    For level two certification (if applicable):
     
    Shoes are shined as would military dress shoe  
     
     
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    Paggeldiwwer reacted to PArmstr in Possible ISB ANH CRL   
    This CRL is based on my analysis of screen caps of ANH and my  research about officers tunics of the Russian Imperial Army. The book Star Wars Costumes: The Original Trilogy states on page 21 that those uniforms were used in ANH.
     
    Links to my research:
     
    This is a work in progress because I am still not a 100 percent sure which version of the tunic was used for the ISBs in ANH. I hope that some people will add their knowledge to the process. Changes to the old ISB CRL are in green. I also took out the information about the Rogue One version of the ISB tunic. Everything that is not visible in the movie but has to be there can be found in level 3.
     
     
     
    Required Costume Components
    The following costume components are present and appear as described below.
     
     
    Imperial Hat, black
    For 501st approval:
     
    Fabric is a medium weight suiting material matching the pants and tunic if applicable. Gabardine style weave is most accurate. Base of the hat is conical, with a crown about 4" (101.6 mm) tall. Front and rear "flaps" overlap on the sides and are about 4" (101.6 mm) high. Front bill extends 3" down, decorated with 5, 6 or 7 concentric stitches. Imperial Code Disk is positioned in the center of the front vertical flap.   
    For level two certification (if applicable):
     
    Code Disk has a notch detail on the outermost disk.  
    For level three certification (if applicable):
     
    Code disk exactly matches screen-used prop.  
     
    Tunic
    For 501st approval:
     
    The tunic should be a off white or cream color Tunic is double-breasted with a left over right closure on the tapered yoke. Yoke comes straight across from the collar center not coming up to the shoulder seam. The standing collar has square corners. It covers ½ or 2/3 of the neck. It closes with two hooks and eyse or one large hook. It does not have a modesty panel. Sleeves are long, and without decoration, cuffs or buttons, containing 2 seams, one along the bottom and one along the back. (moved to level 3) The ISB uniform shall not have the standard code cylinder pockets. Princess seams on the back shall be optional for this tunic. Darts and princess seams on the front are permitted for a better fit of the tunic A seam running the entire circumference of the tunic, dividing the top from the skirt is optional.  
    For level two certification (if applicable):
     
    There is a dart that goes from the top center of the yoke to bout the height of the rank bar. The point of the yoke goes slightly up to the shoulder  
    For level three certification (if applicable):
     
    There is a seam running the entire circumference of the tunic, dividing it along a line hidden by the uniform belt. The back of the tunic has princess seams that run vertically and turn outward to intersect the arm-hole seam at the vertical center. There is a seam that runs down the middle of the back Sleeves have a seam that slits the sleeve into a upper sleeve and a lower sleeve The sleeves have cuffs. The material of the tunic is wool Lining is optional. Tunic must be secured on the right side by snaps or buttons, not Velcro. There is no topstitching visible anywhere and it must have a lining sewn in.  
     
    Rank Bar
    For 501st approval:
     
    See the Imperial Rank Bar page for more information. Worn on the left side of the tunic over the heart. Rank consists of colored plastic tiles mounted on metal bar. Each bar is 1" (25.4 mm) height, length is determined by chosen rank Rank tile dimensions are 1/2" (12.7 mm)width x 3/4" (19 mm) height and about 1/8" (3.2 mm). Tiles are mounted with 1/4" (6.4 mm) spaces between them. Rank tiles are translucent. There are either three red & three blue, or three blue & three red rank tiles  
    For level two certification (if applicable):
     
    ·Belt box, code cylinder, and rank badge configuration is consistent with film canon officers.  
    For level three certification (if applicable):
     
    Rank consists of colored plastic push buttons mounted on a metal bar.  
     
    Belt
    For 501st approval:
     
    The belt is constructed from a non-textured leather or a leather-like material. Approximately 2" (50.8 mm) in width, up to 3" (76.2 mm) is acceptable. There are no loops on the belt. A single large snap or rivet is visible approximately 1" (25.4 mm) from the buckle. The belt may be worn with the snap to the right or left of the wearer. The buckle is constructed from a horizontally brushed metal, or metal looking material. The buckle size is approximately 2 5/8" (66.7 mm) high and 4 1/8" (104.5 mm) wide with 0.5" (12.7 mm) radius rounded corners. Buckle is adorned with an Imperial Code Disk at the center    Please refer to the Imperial Buckle reference page for information on accurate and inaccurate style buckles.  
    For level two certification (if applicable):
     
    Belt is made of leather. Snap is worn to the left of the wearer. Buckle has a slight horizontal curve.  
     
     Trousers version 1 breeches/jodphurs
    For 501st approval:
     
    Fabric is a medium weight suiting material exactly matching the tunic and hat. Gabardine style weave is most accurate. Flared riding breeches are canon. Breeches must be worn with boots. Pockets are acceptable, although they are not visible with the tunic on.   
     
    Foot wear version 1 riding boots
     
    For 501st approval:
     
    Knee-high, black, lace-less, smooth non-textured, leather or leather-like material. Rubber is not acceptable. PVC or synthetic material is allowed as long as it gives the appearance of leather. There are no stretch panels, buckles, snap tabs, or decoration. Boots have conservative heels. If zippers are present, they are hidden on the inner part of the boot shaft. Not visible from the front, side or back. The top of the boots may be flat or Spanish Style, but not Cowboy or Super Hero (pointed at the front) style.   
    For level two certification (if applicable):
     
    Boots do not have a zipper.  
    For level three certification (if applicable):
     
    Boots are made of leather. Not vinyl or PVC. Exact replicas of English riding (dress) boots or Equestrian boots  
     
    Optional Accessories
    Items below are optional costume accessories. These items are not required for approval, but if present appear as described below. If adding in an accessory after initial approval, the item still needs to be submitted to local GML for approval before use.
     
     
    Dress shirt
    For 501st approval:
     
    ·         A white dress shirt may be worn under the tunic.
    ·         The top of the collar and sleeve cuffs may be slightly visible, protruding from under the collar & sleeves of the tunic.
     
     
    Belt Boxes
    For 501st approval:
     
    Dimensions are approximately 2 1/2" (63.5 mm) by 3 1/2" (88.9 mm) by 1" (25.4 mm) thick.. Two boxes may be worn horizontally. The belt boxes are placed between the belt buckle and the side seam of the tunic but are closer to the side seam. Placement of the screw / rivet for the belt boxes should be on the shortest side (top and bottom for vertical belt boxes, left and right for horizontal) An uneven number of boxes is incorrect. Box surfaces are smooth and have no decoration/ hinges/ visible holes or slots that do not appear on the screen-used boxes.  
    For level two certification (if applicable):
     
    There is a covering on the back of each box with a slightly overlapping lip that is approximately 1/4” (6.35 mm). Covering is secured by a rivets or small screws, on the top and on the bottom.  
     
    Trousers, black version 2 dress pants
     
    For 501st approval:
     
     Fabric is a medium weight suiting material exactly matching the tunic and hat. Gabardine style weave is most accurate. Pockets are acceptable, although not visible with the tunic on. Pants are neatly pressed or ironed. Pants smartly rest on the top of the shoes without bunching or giving any sloppy appearance.   
     
    Foots wear version 2 officer dress shoes
    For 501st approval:
     
    Black, non-textured, leather or leather-like material. Boots are free from any visible adornment, straps, buckles (etc). Officer shoes are only worn in conjunction with straight legged trousers. Not with jodhpur style pants. Optional: These officers may wear black Chelsea/ Jodhpur boots, similar to that of Stormtrooper boots.  
    For level two certification (if applicable):
     
    Shoes are shined as would military dress shoe  
     
     
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    Paggeldiwwer reacted to DarthFunk83 in So you wanna be on Facebook? How about Twitter?   
    Here are some pics that I have of IOC members from various troops last year. I hope this is what you're looking for Ron. Ive also included the TKIDs of the members in the photos. All of these are from the Badlands Garrison
     
    Left to right: IC-10601 and ID-11872
    Ronald McDonald House Bloc Party, June 25, 2017, Edmonton, Alberta, Canada

     
    Left to right: ID-10701, IC-10601 and ID-11872
    Star Wars Night with the Edmonton Oil Kings hockey team at Rogers Place, Nov 4, 2017, Edmonton, Alberta, Canada

     
    Left to right: ID-5059, ID-11872, IC-10701 and IC-10601
    Edmonton Comic and Entertainment Expo, Sept 23, 2017, Edmonton, Alberta, Canada

     
    Left to right: ID-10701, ID-11872 and ID-91348 
    Music of Star Wars with the Edmonton Symphony Orchestra at the Winspear Centre, Nov 29, 2017, Edmonton, Alberta, Canada

     
     
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    Paggeldiwwer reacted to WhiteWalker in So you wanna be on Facebook? How about Twitter?   
    ID82666 and ID12906 of the Florida Garrison in consultation with the Emperor.
     

     
    We’re also seen here on the lookout for those elusive rebels.
     
     
    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
     
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    Paggeldiwwer reacted to GDMorti in Propose on TFA: Admiral   
    Fair points!

    I don't know how tricky it is to rename a CRL after publication? Would it not be possible to amend the title once we find out who that chap Kylo is talking to ("prepare my ship" scene) is supposed to be? Like, what rank?

    EDIT: and as further ranks are confirmed as wearing the black fold over uniform, we could add more, with specific rank bar amendments such as the Lt/Cap and Major/Col
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    Paggeldiwwer reacted to GDMorti in Propose on TFA: Admiral   
    As the most recent FO CRL, Hux's has the most up to date language and terms, so should probably be the base for all FO going forward.
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    Paggeldiwwer reacted to Tutanchseth in Propose on TFA: Admiral   
    The draft looks fine to me, I've only one suggestion for the Rank Insgnia.
     
    As the CRL for Hux just got an update I'd prefer to use a variant of the description used there:
     
    Admiral Rank Insignia, First Order
    For 501st approval: Rank consists of two black bands, approximately 1" wide, completely attached to the sleeve so as not to appear loose. If stitched down to the sleeve, the stitching is not visible. The edges of the bands utilize red and white piping or a red and white embroidered line on each side as visible in the picture The two black bands are no more than 1/4 to 1/2 an inch apart. Worn on the left side of arm, above the wrist and below the elbow.  
    For level two certification (if applicable): The edges are embroidered.  
    With this wording we'd have the same details for both double-band Officer-CRLs
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