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1 minute ago, lantern2745 said:
But TI was only because they didn't want to go with logic.. You know; Tie Pilot - TP
Ahh, the jokes just write themselves on that one...
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1 minute ago, Centauri said:
You just killed me
TI - Trooper In ( the air )
TX - Trooper Xtra
Okay , basically it's only the Clones who have prefixes that make sense . Even the Shore Trooper have a logic prefix - ST !Well, TI makes sense, they dropped the E from TIE. But yeah... TK makes sense because that's canon. The rest was like... wut?
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Actually, the more I think about this the less i like it - I get that this is how the model had his tunic, and if it works for him, great - but ESPECIALLY if they cannot be seen, why does it matter how many there are? I thought it was about looking screen accurate, not making costume designers stand on their heads?
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1 hour ago, Steven said:
2 - The tunic hast to be closed and secured with 12(!!) snaps, I am about 1,72m high (so smaller than the CRL model) and I have 5 snaps at my Grand Admiral and Staff Officer uniform which is more than enough, so do we really need 12 snaps? Because on no other uniform the number of snaps is stated.
Uh, yeah... I have 6 on mine and I'm 6'6". 12 is overkill to the extreme.
1 hour ago, Steven said:3 - This is regarding the snaps and plastic buttons on L2 for the cloak, it says 10 plastic buttons and snaps around the collar help secure the cloak. An additional two metal snaps and loops on the code cylinder pockets to help secure the cloak. Do we really have to do it 1:1 as the CRL model (however great job @UnusedPizza I really like your work!!)? Shouldn't everyone be allowed to secure the cloak in the way that is best for him? As long as the cloak stays in place and no one of the buttons is visible.
I agree on this as well (nice catch, I didn't see either one of these) - I have 4 buttons on mine and it stays in place. That many and I fear it won't move (or will, but move wrong) - remember, it slid around on him a little as he moved - if you superglue it to the tunic it won't have the same flow (yeah, I know, snaps aren't super glue, but that many and they might as well be).
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Just now, Steven said:
I don't know exactly what you mean but I told them to make the collar 8cm high (just to be sure it comes high enough) and my seamstress will shorten it to the required height.
However I'm happy to hear that I didn't bought my new CS Uniform in vain
*sigh* thanks!
I mean I'm 6'6" tall, so I'm a giant around most people. Hence when I ordered, they sized everything up in comparison - the pocket openings on my jacket are larger than on my fellow troopers because of size difference, and so would the collar, I'd imagine.
However, specifying the collar size probably isn't a bad idea.
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14 hours ago, Mkjava said:
Correct me if I'm wrong here in reading the CRL. My current Imperator level Staff Officer jodhpurs, boots, belt, and code cylinders are good for level 1 Krennic right? Just making my 'must do' build list.
Sent from my iPad using TapatalkI believe so - Imperator requires correct code, right?
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1 minute ago, Steven said:
So CS Tunic will be accurate?
It was for me. Keep in mind I'm bigger than most, so my collar may be bigger than yours.
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Which tunic did you order? Wondering cause the fabric indicates wool and not sure any from CPS does that. I also took my buddies deluxe tunic he ordered and the collar is not 2 inches.
The black deluxe tunic adding a color change option
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I would say if it looks appropriate on you, check with your GML. On my chest 1/4" looks fine. I have no idea how big or small you are (I'm 6'6" and 205 lbs, for reference, and wear a 42 or a 44 size coat).
Your GML is going to be the best answer - they're the ones who say what is approvable and what isn't. The CRL is their guidelines, but it is a guideline, as I was reminded - so ask for their opinion based on you. Do a mock up on paper like the guy above did. -
5 hours ago, DarthFunk83 said:
This might help the discussion with respect to the rank bars:
http://databank.501st.com/databank/Costuming:ID_Director_Krennic
Yes and no. It keeps the same standard as every other rank bar because that's the way we do it, but at the same time, as people have pointed out, on someone larger 1/4" looks fine, but on someone smaller 1/8" probably looks better. Ben's 5'8", so he's not a large man - odds are they didn't want a rank bar that looked like it was swallowing his chest
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7 minutes ago, nocternus said:
All CRLs have measurements of one form or another, I personally have never heard of someone taking out a ruler not even I am that strict on accuracy
Lol. One of my squad mates has a horror story of when he came back from retired (he was living in Indiana at the time) and the GML apparently disputed his rank bars were the correct size - he said he had to send multiple pictures with a ruler on all the different areas to prove it was in fact valid.
Like you said though, I doubt that's an all the time thing. Point noted - while it would be nice to put "at least" or something like that in there, it's not required.
The ammo clip one though needs to be fixed.
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So, one question - having stared at the Thrawn CRL progress (because I'm already working on one white costume and why not do face paint if I want to at some point do Maul), I notice the tunic requirements are different - this one seems to allow the princess seams at level 1, while (last I looked) the Thrawn animated one does not.
Weren't we trying to keep the animated tunics looking the same?(Edit: Ok, Thrawn doesn't have the Center seam as level 1 now, but the tunic for it and this and Kallus are 3 different types (by wording), even though in the drawings they're all basically drawn the same - save Kallus' 2 tone)
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My wife likes to wear hers with one of her Racing Shirts - but that puts it into context pretty quick. She has tried to wear it just by itself and I asked her not to - not because of any political thing, just because by itself it looks odd
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I hadn't thought of it like that, I thought it was Imperial Division - but that's a valid point.
Kinda like why Spec Ops is TX - Trooper.... Xtreme? -
Congrats Mark
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Firstly, thank you to everyone who helped in any way, shape or form to get this thing done and approved - I know a lot of us were anxious and are thrilled to see it up.
That said, I wanted to put up what I see are a couple of issues that may show themselves as people go for Level 2 or 3.
Firstly, and I noted this in the CRL discussion thread, but it might have gotten lost:
QuoteFor level three certification (if applicable):
- Belt has three large loops in the back to hold extra ammunition
- Three ammunition cartridges are held snuggly within each loop
In the first scene in Rogue One you can see the ammo on his right hip, not in the back. It was behind the holster but 3 were clearly visible on his right hip from a front shot. Probably just a phrasing choice, but one that probably needs to be addressed. (Also, snugly has one g unless the Queen's English misspells that too
but that's just a pet peeve.)
Second, the measurements on the cloak - I know we went back and forth on this during the discussion, but I think it bears further discussion. One, I think 2 inches on the collar, unless you are short or have a shorter neck (neither of which I do, sadly) is too short - maybe change it to "at least" and note it should be about 2/3rds to 3/4ths up your neck? I know I measured my collar, and it is 2 inches tall, but it looks entirely too short on me compared to pictures of Ben.
Third, in the level 2:
QuoteYoke
- One rear section runs across the top of the back (width approx. 15” (38 cm)) and joins with the two other sections on each side
- The sections on each side wrap over the shoulders to each code cylinder pocket on the outer edge up to the collar on the inner.
- Running from the collar to the seam line of the shoulder and the arm the width is 4.5” (11.5 cm) The right side will be equal length to the left side.
- Running from the center rear of the collar to the base of the yoke is 5.5” (14 cm)
I can only comment on myself, but my yoke is about 5.25" wide from collar and the back is 6.5" long from the base of the collar - because I'm 6'6" tall. Transpose that, and 5.5" could look entirely too long on a much shorter person (one of our Kylos is 5'2", and she is having a horrendous time with the new measurements on the arms).
Those are the only things that stood out to me that might become an issue. I wanted to put them down when I was thinking about them to make sure I was coherent.
Again, I appreciate all the work done on this - just offering my suggestions.
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Just now, eliste said:
Why would it shock me? You're just finally realizing I'm right.
Happy to send commentary to whoever, just point me where I need to rant.Lol, because I was stuck on measurements based on his pictures, but realizing that I have a 2 inch collar and it looks too short made me understand what you meant.
And Mark won DL, so let's give him a couple days before we start any hell
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2 minutes ago, eliste said:
Well, 1/4 or 3/8 it's definitely taller than 2". I think it's wrong if it says 2" and if they insist on that it's just going to end up with a lot of poorly-looking collars. I still believe that it shouldn't have a specific measurement at all and should just say "covers the 2/3-3/4 of the neck". It would look right, and allows for those with different neck lengths to have different sizes. At the end of the day, his costume wasn't an off the rack job even within the Empire (he talks about getting it custom made in Catalyst) so the CRL shouldn't force it to be like other CRLs IMO.
I'm actually going to shock you, I now agree with you. I keep looking at this picture (http://cdn2us.denofgeek.com/sites/denofgeekus/files/2016/12/rogue-one-orson-krennic.png) and thinking the CRL should say to 3/4th or the top of your neck.
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On 2/10/2017 at 2:15 AM, eliste said:
The Cosplaysky uniform, IMO, won't give you a high enough collar from its standard build. However, you can order excess fabric from them and build/find someone to build a high collar for you once it arrives.
Actually, as per the new CRL, it does. My CPS jacket collar is 2 inches tall.
That being said, I disagree with some of the measurements, but it is what it is - short of us getting our hands on one of his actual cloaks, we can argue 1/4" vs 3/8" all day and no one can say for 100% certainty it's right.I can only hope that if one were to get a taller collar than the 2 inch one stated, it would be approvable - because to these old eyes, it is a LOT taller than 2 inches in the movie - I know Ben is 5'8", but unless he has no neck or is actually 2'8", if that's 2 inches I'm a bug in a human suit (props if you get that comment)
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I can argue certain parts of the CRL, but nothing major, just a difference of opinion. One thing sticks way out to me as needing an immediate change:
QuoteFor level three certification (if applicable):
- Belt has three large loops in the back to hold extra ammunition
- Three ammunition cartridges are held snuggly within each loop
The ammo loops are on the right hip, directly behind the gun holster, as seen in the very first scene with Krennic - not the back. That should be changed to correct that.
(That, and snugly has one g, but not sure if the Queen's english spells that differently too
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So, even though I wrote that on the WIP CRL, I tend to agree - thing is I don't know if they took a ruler or just put a spacer and it happened to be about 1/8th inch or 1/4th in wide - Brian Muir is on record saying that the pattern on the back of a storm trooper didn't come about because of any reason other than he needed something to fill that void and found a gear and two wooden blocks the right size.
I honestly am of the opinion that anywhere from 1/8 to 1/4 should be allowable, because as you pointed out, even the OT had oddities. Right now you may get away with 1/8 in spacing, depending on your GML - I've heard of ones who needed a ruler next to a rank badge to approve it because they thought the measurements didn't match exactly the crl.
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Mark noted that the CRL will be modified - in the original text there was no mention of any attachment methods, in the CRL discussion thread multiple attachment ideas were floated, snaps, hooks, magnets, etc. The only notation was it must be fitted to the Tunic - if that is done properly, very little attachment is actually needed because of the shape of it, it will sit properly on your shoulders - the attachment is more to keep it from being blown off in a strong wing, pulled off by catching on/under something or being pulled on by a child or someone else, or falling off if you were to turn suddenly and shift it.