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29 minutes ago, DAK72 said:
We are a pretty tight knit group here in Georgia. Lots of crossover between the groups. So many people have kits in two or all three clubs and swap out wearing different kits depending on their mood. Everything always seems to focus on the 501st, but we always have RL and MM on hand at each troop.
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Admin around here decided to make a larger heading, "Star Wars Galactic Alliance" - the parade on Thanksgiving down south in Houston used that title - they mentioned all the clubs, but that was the banner on the screen (we were carrying one of each club, the vertical types). There was just a little bit of, shall we say, "butthurt" over everything being labeled 501st, so we try to make sure everyone is recognized to keep the natives from rioting.
We're pretty close knit here too - MOST people have costumes in multiple clubs, though not all (I'm one of the outliers, seeing how I just dumped a crapload of money into Krennic, but I promised my wife we would get Jedis next year, so... eh.
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On 12/2/2016 at 10:51 AM, Daetrin said:
Well, I concur that it would be nicer if they had read our CRL's first, or had a 501st IOC member there to advise them. Green pants with a black top? Man, we could have kitted these folks out, analogous to how they used two R2 Builders to make R2 in TFA.
Ehh. After looking closely at the pictures from the Imperial Tech how the Jumpsuit looks on the front, I've come to the conclusion either the director and designers were on crack, or the costume design team looked over at us and said "Replicate THIS, suckers!"
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On 11/30/2016 at 2:45 AM, UnusedPizza said:
The hat, if I remember correctly is only warn in the flash back, as he has a different rank bar, plus he doesn't have his cape in that. It is some sort of over coat, and he had another coat later on when it's Director, either way for me, the hat and over coat should be optional as the bulk of what we've seen he doesn't have them on.
Agreed on the Cape detailing, needs to match in detail and cut otherwise well end up with Krennics with all kinds of rubbish flapping around in the wind and looking wrong.So, there's one SS of him somewhere with the Director Rank and the hat, again in the rain - could be flash back, could be something else, hard to say. But every shot of him with the hat has also had the poncho - so I don't know if we want to have 2 CRL's, "regular" Krennic and "rain" Krennic, but I think the rain parts need to wait at least till the 16th for the movie and VD.
Cape - I went back and forth on this. In my (albeit perfectionist opinion when it comes to this costume), I wanted L1 to require the cape to have all the details. Like, ALL the details. But I took a step back and realized that requiring the specific stitch patterns was probably something that was a higher level - we allow pleather boots at Level 1, so why would we require ABSOLUTE screen accuracy on something like a cloak?
That being said, I haven't reworded for the panels of the cloak, but yes, having had mine made (and gone though the process with my tailor, who I'm surprised didn't stab me with scissors numerous times when I wanted to change something), requiring the 6 panels and the yoke is not out of bounds IMHO. It makes the cloak sit correctly and look correct. -
On 11/29/2016 at 6:06 PM, Daetrin said:
OK, I read through all the pages and here are my notes. I presume you are taking the lead James in keeping the first post clean?
Sir, yes sir. Answers below:
Quote1. Explain your color coding on the top.
For instance, you can say "black is the same text we use on Tarkin" so it's clear that this is just copy/paste, blue is specific deltas between the original "Tarkin CRL" and this one. Red is...what? Recent corrections? Controversial items?
Black was the starting text - yes, some was lifted from other CRL's, while other parts (such as the cloak) was written by me, or from others suggestions. As it has changed, it has become the "unchanged" or "unchallenged" text, shall we say.
Blue was just copied from other CRL's - I have no idea why some of the CRL's have blue on certain spots, but if it was there on more than one, I put it there - it's also used for the L2 distinguishing name
Red is yes, recent changes (or moves from L1 to L2) - Changes based on either discussions, or simply "hey, guys, look at this" and we all go "...poodoo."
Quote2. Please clearly separate out L2/L3. When it doubt, put it at L3. It's better at the start of the CRL to make it more liberal and tighten up over time than the other way around.
If that is what is wished by admin to gain approval on the CRL for at least L1, I will absolutely do that. I put it as L2 because not all CRL's have a 3, so did not want to get presumptuous.QuoteRank bar - summarize to say that we will use the same text as Tarkin CRL then call out only deltas, e.g. red/blue inverted and also that a single badge can be used (Tarkin has two distinct rows). Will save space.
Belt - summarize to say that we will use the same text as ISB CRL to save space, and then call out differences, e.g. stud on right instead of left, and for L3 that the disk on the buckle is different (or appears to be).
Belt - summarize to say that we will use the same text as ISB CRL to save space, and then call out differences. For the button, that can be an L2 requirement, and you will also need to specify the approximate size/location.
Trousers/Boots - summarize to say that we will use the same text as ISB CRL to save space
Hat - summarize to say that we will use the same text as ISB CRL to save space, make it optional. Call out that for L3, disk is different than OT.
Cloak - I think much of the stitching pattern can be L2/L3. If it is the right color/pattern that can be fine for L1 and then leave room for more details as you get to L2/L3.
For the hair, since it's a face character we should use the same language for hair color as we did Tarkin but not over-complicate it. I think simply saying that it's brunette hair that is graying could be fine for now.
Apologies - I thought when writing (or helping write) the CRL, we anted to see what it would look like as a finished product, not make people chase down what the text should be. If it helps, for the most part I did lift that text and make those changes - but if you feel I should wipe out everything and put it as stated, I will.
QuoteFor the holster - are there ever shots where he does not have it?
No sir, not yet, but there's also no shots of him without the sidearm - and as some countries do not allow weapons, and there was discussion about not requiring the holster without the sidearm due to how silly it could look (honestly, TK's without a E-11 with that leather pouch hanging down look a little odd), I moved it to the Optional section. I would say we should leave it there until R1 comes out at least - my honest opinion is I don't want to get a holster until I get the sidearm, because then I'm potentially having to craft (or have crafted and pay for) 2 holsters if the first one doesn't hold the sidearm correctly
QuoteFor the weapon, we can at least say that it's a replica blaster that has a brown grip, a black scope offset on the left with silver accents. Take a look at the staff officer Power5 description - it really doesn't say much at all.
Actually, thanks to Battlefront, we have clear pictures and a name now - I just was waiting to write something there because I don't know gun lingo (I don't mind fake guns, but having been shot before I tend to stay the hell away from real ones), so I was hoping someone else could supply the wording based off the gun.
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Looks great!
Out of curiousity, does RL not march or do they have a separate section? The combine 501st, RL and MM's into one here in Dallas (which was unfortunately canceled because Mother Nature thought it would be nice to hit parade day with 40 degrees and a torrential downpour). -
I'd start here:
http://www.imperialofficer.com/forum/index.php?/forum/85-first-order-officers/
CRL's aren't done (I can't honestly say if they're even started) because of a lack of reference material, but there are others interested in them. -
Looks like the snap may also be on a small tab
Eh. Glove may be longer than these, but the snap is in the right place. Could be right about the tab, not sure. Either way, so
Host of making them myself these are the best I've found
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On 11/21/2016 at 9:42 PM, Exaldear said:
If anyone finds gloves online, could you send me a link please.
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https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005NKJG16/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Just got them in, DEAD on accurate from what we've seen.
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On 11/19/2016 at 1:14 PM, Colin1138 said:
That's precisely why those measurements should not be on the CRL..or at the very least should have a caveat that they are to be proportionate to the build of the costumer. Putting a measurement in black and white will only cause issues imo. Folk will read it must be xxxinches..build it to xxxinches..and end up looking like they are wearing their dad's shirt.
Verbiage on the CRL needs to be carefully considered.
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I understand your point of view, and I disagree, but not a conversation I am willing to have.
The standards for the CRL's are already set. If someone wants to challenge them, feel free - but for now, this will follow those standards. -
1 hour ago, Imperialkanos said:
Out of interest did you find a solution for the belt prong making a hole in the flight suit? As I share your concern.
If you need to, you can shorten it - if it's sharp (and it will be if you cut it to shorten it) you can file or sand it smooth. I rounded mine off, and between the snugness of my belt (so it's not shifting all over) and the rounded off, I haven't had any issues. If you're truly worried, get a piece of black knee patch material (the iron on stuff you can find at Wal-Mart and the like), and put it on your costume in the area the prong hits. It'll be covered by the belt, but will give you enough re-enforcement that you shouldn't have issues. -
I really hope this is worth the wait for everyone who ordered. Between this and the wait on Vader they have soured me to them for life.
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On 10/10/2016 at 11:46 PM, nocternus said:
....Depending on whether the belt's safety tests come in .....
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On 11/18/2016 at 8:34 PM, skelitor120 said:
Quite a bit, yes! I just ordered it with all the custom measurements mentioned in the sticky'd "CosplaySky" thread on the Questions forum -- I hope I did everything right! Me and my mother had to go at it with a yard stick and some tape-measures, and THEN we had to convert the inches to m/cm. I do hope it comes ready-to-wear.
I'll be getting my rank bar and belt from Tiggwolf; my boots from Hessen Antique, my gloves from eBay or Amazon, my hat from SewingJenny, my code cylinders from ID6187, my belt boxes and MSP-5 kit (when the next run starts) from Imperialist, and when all of that is done in the next month or so I'll officially be ready to join the Legion and the IOC!
Remember, you don't HAVE to have the Belt Boxes and Pistol for approval - you can add those later and get them approved. Just so you remember that once you have the required items, you are ready to submit. -
2 hours ago, Colin1138 said:
That's precisely why those measurements should not be on the CRL..or at the very least should have a caveat that they are to be proportionate to the build of the costumer. Putting a measurement in black and white will only cause issues imo. Folk will read it must be xxxinches..build it to xxxinches..and end up looking like they are wearing their dad's shirt.
Verbiage on the CRL needs to be carefully considered.
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I actually have come to agree - I was basing measurements off Ben's costume, but even I had to adjust them because I'm 6-8" taller than Ben (I've seen varying reports on his height, but it seems to be somewhere between 5'10" and 6'). If you notice, I put that line specifically on the cloak that it should be fitted to the wearer and the tunic of the wearer - so if your tunic was made with a taller or shorter collar because you either have a small neck or have been accused of being part giraffe (GUILTY!), the cloak will mesh with the tunic properly.
I didn't touch the tunic because I copied it word for word (save the white color) from every other tunic we have. If we want to adjust that, I'd say that needs to be a wholesale change. I will say that either Ben's neck is smaller than most, or the collar of his tunic was made taller - or he likes to take pictures while trying to scrunch down?
Either way, yes, I want this to be something we all (mostly) agree on - no one's going to agree 100% with the CRL, and yes, there are points where the GML';s have to step in and do their jobs and say "well, that says a 1.25" collar on the tunic, but you're so small that touches your ear, so....", but the idea has always been to give a baseline. If we were to say "the collar comes up to the middle of the neck" - what is the middle? Is it measured off the hair line, or off the crook of the neck, or flat from the top of the shoulder? You see the issue there - you can do measurements based off a point, but we shouldn't want to be excessively vague for the sake of trying to not make anyone have to make adjustments.Just my $0.02
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5 hours ago, eliste said:
Tunic or cloak, a 3.25" collar is ludicrous for any shorter Krennics. Here is me (5'6") with that size. If you insist on that, you will have lots of inaccurate Krennic's walking around.2 hours ago, nocternus said:Only if GML's are asleep at the wheel
What he said. There are measurements in every other CRL. There are a starting point, a baseline that should be adjusted to the wearer, for obvious reasons. Every TK armor is built to the same size, it is up to you to trim it to the correct dimensions for yourself so it looks appropriate.
Either way, as we said, the newest picture put this to rest - the ribs are the same height as the trim, so at MOST the collar is around 2-2.5 inches tall ON BEN. Could we change every CRL to state that this ends at this body part, this ends here, etc? Sure, but it's understood. That's why a costume out of the box is almost never approvable - it has to be fitted to the wearer.
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I made edits to the top post based on all the discussions so far - I struck out what was there, and highlighted any inserts in bolded red text.
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Well, if you look at that new poster you linked there, the cape collar appears to be shorter than the tunic collar. So I think they are actually the same height (they looked it at Celebration) but it depends on how things are sitting. If they were the same height and not attached near the collar, that would explain the different views.
Also, rather than trying to put a specific size on the stitching of the collar, make its height look right and insist on the right number for the CRL would be my recommendation. It might not be 1/4" on you, but it might be on someone else. For instance if I had a 3.25" collar, I would look comical, almost moving towards Count Dracula.
Well, we have requirements for the height of tunic collars. And what I was saying was not 3.25" up from the base of the tunic collar, but from the base of the cloak. It doesn't seem to sit right against the tunic seam. But, as Cassandra said, that picture kinda kills the discussion
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11 hours ago, nocternus said:
Glove's with snaps are easy to find that was my problem with getting glove's all the ones I wanted had snaps
Think I may have found the ones I saw.
What do ya'll think?
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11 hours ago, nocternus said:
Glove's with snaps are easy to find that was my problem with getting glove's all the ones I wanted had snaps
Snaps on the palms though... that's the part I'm having to go through every single search I did before.
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Well, on the topic of gloves, the new character poster shows some more details. Looks like they have a snap. I think I also see the end of a long sleeve under his tunic too.
DUDE!! I hadn't seen this poster yet.. I swear I've seen those gloves now, I just have to find them again because anything with a snap I threw out of my search.
And that picture kinda screws up my collar theory because the edge and ribs appear the same size... *headdesk*
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So, a new wrinkle on the cloak.
I was going over all the pictures we have of Ben in costume, and wanted to smack myself for not seeing this sooner. Pulled the 3/4 view picture that I looked at for the gloves into photoshop and started running measures.
Firstly, the joint of the collar and cape doesn't match up with the collar and tunic - it appears to sit about an inch off on both sides ( and theoretically around the back as well from the views we have). And while I wrote in the CRL that the ribs are 1/4" apart, they actually (if we're going on the fairly accurate assumption that the edge stitch is 1/4 inch off from the edge) appear to be somewhere between 3/8" and 1/2" - and I'm leaning to 1/2". That would make the collar height actually 3.25" - taller than the tunic collar. However, with it starting an inch off, and leaning in to sit against the tunic collar, they would seem to meet up. My tailor is making one final mockup, this time with a collar on it, and we're going to see how it looks.
Anyone have any feedback?
Also, one of our members who is making a Vader posted something today - his mom found a fabric for him that looks like leather but is actually a stretchy satin material. I'm trying to find out what it is from him, but has anyone seen this stuff? From the pictures of his undersuit progress it looks like a dead ringer for the way the gloves sit - I'm still on the fence on if they're just a really thin lamb skin leather, but if anyone knows what this fabric is, or can point me to it, I'd appreciate it.
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So, the gloves - gloves are driving me batshit, honestly.
I've got a large picture of Krennic (ok, so it's the background on my computer with 27" monitors, but it's a large picture, so shush
) where you can see more details on his gloves. I ABSOLUTELY get that they were hand-made for him by the costume designers - or if they weren't, they went over to some store and found the ONE PAIR that is never being made again (did I mention they're driving me batshit? ) Problem is, when I bought Tough Gloves Police gloves, the ended right before the wrist - and the Marksman-X gloves (their longer version) have two issues - one, they bunch up at the wrist (which is NOT how they look in the picture), and two, for WHATEVER reason, the wrist is smaller than the size they give - i.e. a 10 fit on my fat hands in the Police gloves, but I couldn't get my right paw into the damn glove on the marksman - wouldn't go past my knuckles, and I didn't want to tear the damn thing so I couldn't return it.
I'm kicking around trying to make a pair - but I might just pick up a pair of these (Dwellbee Men's Classic Leather Winter Gloves) for now - kinda set a deadline for myself because I said (as long as my cloak is done in time) that I would debut Krennic at the Dallas Children's Hospital Christmas Parade (no pressure, only 40k people watching, right?)
Anyway, based on the picture (here: http://imgur.com/7HxGGvs) I updated the Gloves section on the CRL post. I'm also going though all the comments to make sure I didn't miss anything - didn't realize I was only notified for the first response since I looked at this and thought it was pretty dead. (Silly me) -
That's a younger Krennic as well - it was when Jyn was a little girl. So that explains the differences too.
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On 6/28/2016 at 2:14 PM, kman said:
Question about rank bars, as I pull my costume together:
My impression was that Commander (4 red, 2 amber) is the highest ranking you would see for the black uniform. So I was leaning toward emulating Commander Nahdonnis Praji's setup (as detailed here: http://www.imperialofficer.com/forum/index.php?/topic/4698-officer-uniform-configuration/).
But then I happened to click over to the 501st CRL, and noticed the pictured officer has an entirely different rank badge: 4 blue, two red!
http://databank.501st.com/databank/Costuming:ID_imperial_officer_black
I happen to like the blue/red color combination for this uniform, but what does this mean? Is there a reason that color combination is not listed in this thread? What rank would it be? (it's sort of backwards Admiral, per the chart in this thread's OP, but on the black uniform)
Edit: I just read more of this thread, and I THINK the takeaway is that CRL photo is essentially incorrect? That color combo can be approved, but only for level 1, not higher levels, right?
So... funny story about this. In the old VHS and DVD's, those amber looked Red to some people due to the lighting, so it was believed it was 4 blue 2 red. Then we bot better quality ones, and the blu ray's confirmed that they were indeed amber, and not red. This pic was taken before that was established.
Probably time for a CRL refresh picture - I know there has been talk about changing that CRL as well because the uniform is actually way off too, so figure when they do that a new picture will be taken.
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