Dimentex
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6 hours ago, DS82581 said:
Ugh, no. Not for this.
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1 hour ago, Angelus said:
Below is from the Endorfinder store
And the top i did it from my program
both are the same size. 3.5inc
Ok, I know what's throwing me off on yours. The background. It's too white. It needs to be silver. Here's a picture of the one Scott did
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2 hours ago, DarthFunk83 said:
For those of you wanting to pick up your copy of Thrawn at Celebration, you have a chance to meet the man himself, Timothy Zahn is going to Celebration and is signing books!! Here is the Del Rey schedule!!
http://www.unboundworlds.com/2017/03/del-rey-star-wars-celebration-orlando-schedule-giveaways/
Yep Yep. He announced that on his FB about a month ago. I'm bringing all my copies of his books.
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Hrm. If they're opaque tiles, could this be something that, with enough effort into it, could be 3D printed?
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Just now, denessuno said:
Phew, I'm so glad you agree for basic approval, because I've basically created the yoke as one piece, with the cape itself as 4 panels attached (2 sides, 2 back) and the rest of the "panels" top stitched.
Unfortunately, I'm not DL, so I can't effect that change, only fight for it - so right now, that won't work, but hopefully in the near future it will.
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2 minutes ago, Steven said:
I agree with James.
To me the CRL is too strict on the exact pattern of the cape. To me it doesn't matter of how much parts the cape is sewn together. As long as it looks like the cape on screen everything is, in my eyes, alright.
For basic approval, I agree. Level 2/3, however, we do need to get right - but to the screen accurate cloak, not one person's version of it
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On 3/19/2017 at 11:18 AM, IronRanger88 said:
Do you know where I can find that pattern?
No pattern as of yet - and honestly, it needs to be fitted to your jacket, so any pattern would have to be modified.
Other than the Yoke being one solid piece and not 3, the drawing isn't a bad one, and it is a good start to make a pattern.
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41 minutes ago, denessuno said:
Yeah, I don't quite get that either. 4 and 11 should all be part of 7. When I made my yoke, it was all just one piece (not including the collar of course) and I just added top stitching to indicate that line across the yoke from shoulder to shoulder.
That is one of the things we're trying to amend. The CRL is wrong. Plain and simple. Someone saw that top stitching and decided it was a seam without looking closely.
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9 minutes ago, Exaldear said:
One thing I want to ask though is 3D printing. You can get an accurate shape and with the right paints can look accurate. Would you turn someone down for this?
At the moment? Yes, the way the CRL is written (well, the way the Rank Badge section of all CRL's is written). Plastic on Metal.
I know from working on my pistol that it take a LOT of effort to make a 3d Print look like the real thing - and that's something most people won't do. So I would say no off the bat. In the future though, as they get better? Probably. -
Ashley, too much to quote and I'm too sick to do it right, so I'm not going to try. I will go back to what I said before - you keep hitting on nailing accuracy. And I have no issue with that for higher levels. But my understanding across most detachments (and BJ was like this here until he stepped down) was L1 was a recognizable character to fans. (And yes, I realize when I was in my staff officer I got "who are you?" all the time, but that was at large events around people who only knew Vader and maybe Fett from Star Wars.) Level 2 and above is getting into the "more accurate" and "most accurate" parts.
Are push buttons more expensive here? Yep. Are they across the pond? Not according to a different post Cassandra made. Are they 100% accurate? Hell no. Are they 85% accurate? Yep.
Look, when I was writing the Krennic CRL I started where you are on a lot of things (I'm ignoring what came out of the other end because that's an argument I'm STILL having). I had exact screen accurate stitching and exact panels and exact everything on the cloak, and down to the mm specifications on things - and was talked off that ledge for Level 1, because a) it would have restricted how many people could do that character (which is a valid point), and b ) the absolute screen accurate details were for Level 3, not Level 1.
If you restrict the rank bar at Level 1 to one exact type, (so far) made by only one creator - you restrict how many people can make this character. Yeah, I can get one of Tigg's rank bars for $20. Call it $30 for the newer style that she has to do something to. But add import/export fees and shipping and taxes and whatever else some country will slap onto it and someone in another country is potentially looking at $120 USD for a rank bar. Which if you want to hit higher levels, cool, you're probably ok with. If you just want to do the character and want to look like the character, probably not so much (and we have to accept that there are many members, no matter how important it is to some of us, who don't give a damn about higher levels). And we're back to my initial argument about push buttons when the only vendors being listed were across the pond and we were looking at $70-$120 for a rank bar that Kris said he wanted required at Level 1.
It's common sense and realistic expectations. And I realize I'm just one voice, and ya'll can ignore mine - but I can guarantee you that there are plenty of people who agree with me, and just simply don't post or don't think they'll be listened to.
The CRL will be the CRL, I get that. I put 8 months in on Krennic and what came out on the other end wasn't even close in a lot of areas to what we had settled on in those 8 months of discussion. But what I DID learn from that is for basic approval, sometimes we have to let the little things go, and see the bigger picture. -
2 hours ago, Walker said:
As a FWI - while the ISB Officer look white in colour they are actually cream (or ecru), so that unfortunately not an option.
Not entirely accurate anymore, although the change hasn't been made. ISB in Rogue One wore a white tunic like Krennic's.
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Just now, toontotalwar said:
I agree the Krennic cape will need additional stuff added like the two pockets and extra stitching on the neck panel but I think it could be salvaged for basic clearance. I too have the CPS Version in my own personal collection and would not consider it for 501st approval even though I have modded the jodphurs, jacket and added belt,blaster, dosimeters and rank badges.
We will have to see how it fleshes out for Level 1 when the changes are pushed though. The initial discussion would have made that cape as it is now (not the initial one the put out, that was hot garbage) approvable with some minor mods. Unfortunately what came out the other end was closer to Level 3 than basic approval to quite a few of us.
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6 minutes ago, Centauri said:
YES !!
If you can buy them DO SO !!
Heck , i'd even buy them myself for Reenactment if the guy had any clue as to what size they actually are . They'd make a nice addition to my Luftwaffe uniform ...
....Damn large feet.
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13 minutes ago, DarthFunk83 said:
To chime in a little bit here. Recently, Tiggie started to offer push button rank bars (only using red and blue buttons so far, amber buttons are all on back order). The push button rank bars are more expensive than the plexiglass, but still reasonable. Also Chris is starting to make small batches of push button rank bars. So those are two potential vendors in the US at least.
Yep. And I'm happy to see it. We just have to keep in mind if we push for those at Level 3, or 2, or even 1, how much higher need there will be. We don't want to put our members in a position to fail.
I'm all for setting them as a standard at Level 3, and could see an argument for Level 2. I just strenuously disagree with 100% screen accurate being a requirement for Level 1. -
14 hours ago, IronRanger88 said:
Also, the design for the front (panel 2 and 9 from the CRL google design) will have to be changed. Could this design mean that they the front is multiple pieces or just triple stitch top stitch for looks?
The long pieces that are triple stitched are separate pieces. You can see the seam just to the outside of the triple stitching.
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3 hours ago, Walker said:
Using the FISD as an example - While to the general public "a Stormtrooper is a Stormtrooper is a Stormtrooper"... they see no difference between them, yet we have unique CRLs for ANH Stunt, ANH Hero, ESB, ROTJ - yet they have recently created a whole Star Wars Rebels section on the forums to focus on the differences between the new Rebels TKs and those from Original Trilogy films - with a CRL in the making. (Mark & Kris can I have a Rebels area for us to talk Rebels in - pretty please
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Yet there has been severe resistance to that very idea here at different times. And the push was to standardize basic parts - boots, belt, Ranks, dosimeters, etc.
I am not denying you're right. Rebels is stylistically different - how much of that is because the animators made choices to make animating a series easier, and how much of it was because they wanted it to look like a different era than the OT, that can be debated until the cows come home.
The fact remains if we want to push for 100% screen accuracy, or hell, even 90% screen accuracy at level 1 on one item, we need to make it across the board. To take your example - FISD doesn't require the holster to be attached to the belt even if you have no gun, but hey, at level 1 you can wear white tennis shoes if you want, as long as they look close. They have a standard - it's not so high it's unreasonable (FFS, you can get approved in Anovos with a simple modification to the belt (or a new belt)), but not so low that they allow Rubies costumes in still.
Let's take the tunic as an example. Unless I'm reading this completely wrong, a CosplaySky tunic would work (perhaps with a slight bit of tailoring) for level 1. For Level 2, however, it wouldn't come close - the princess seams are wrong, they have a side seam, etc. So we would allow a "realistic" tunic for Level 1, but not the "realistic" rank bar? How does that make sense?3 hours ago, Walker said:On your first point - That's one of the things I am doing with this project is to not just make a costume, get approved and look awesome but to also find sources for the unique parts.
And I thank you for this. The one point I will continue to make is sourcing the parts is one thing. Sourcing parts that meet 501st standards and are sold "as close to cost as to be reasonable" is another. I have a severe issue with Etsy for our costume parts - it's built in markup to pay Etsy for the ability to sell your wares. We have so many vendors selling on our boards, we should be working with them rather than paying outside the legion. For example, the belt greebles - probably something Elvis could do, or several other legion members who have done metal bits.
It may be a small thing, but it is important to me - FB, Etsy, all those external sites are not accessible all over the world. I feel like the people who think it's perfectly fine to have those as vendors and none here are forgetting they're living privileged lives where their internet content is not blocked by their government. Meanwhile, if people can get on here, and the vendor is here, they can access the vendor. It's just that simple. -
I also have no problem to buy all the items necessary (new belt boxes, new rank bar, new code cylinders and gloves) to put Jeems together in real live so that we have pictures of the character. I would just like to know before how high the chance is we get this CRL made official
Who of the detachment staff would be responsible of bringing this to the LMO?
Greetings!
Well, go look in the Generic FO General discussion - they kinda indicated the VG isn't enough. So let's hope he's in deleted scenes that we can use - otherwise it might be a hard sell
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Just now, Walker said:
Oh - there was no doubt it was a different sculpt, was just saying its closer to the Veers Armour than the AT-DP/Tarkin Armour
Which is a shame, as it means there won't be a market for it!
Depends how long Rebels goes - I'll bet some of the changes were to make animation easier, we may see that same plate used on other characters.
If nothing else it could be something someone like Walt does when he has a spare moment. It wouldn't sell a lot, but I could see selling some. Just would depend on how much interest there was I guess. -
7 minutes ago, Walker said:
Correct, it's closer to Veers armour but still different
- Wider openings at arms (can see code cylinders)
- Bottom edge is curved (versus angular)
- Centre section is smooth (no lower centre indent with "electronics")
- Left side smooth (some raised detail)
- Right side slightly different (but not much)
- some seam/indent detail
But over al shape is close
Lol. So a totally different sculpt. Yay.
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1 minute ago, Tonydragon said:
Since this the only canon example wouldn't this armour be an optional item for a future "Rebels Gand Admiral Thrawn" CRL rather than something current GAs can wear?
That would be my gut feeling off the bad - we have proof of other GA's. We have none of other GA's in armor. That will be a much harder sell to the LMO's.
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1 hour ago, nocternus said:
Different costumes different CRLs and when i suggested losing plexi you were against it
No, I was not. I was against a drastic and massive change with no build up time and no approved IOC vendors, only random people on Facebook and Etsy who can price gouge at will. Go back and look at my posts. I am for common sense. And common sense dictates that Level 1 is a Rank badge. As long as it's plastic on metal, and not 3D printed or wood or whatever, and it looks like a rank badge, it is a Level 1 Rank Badge. Level 2 is when we start getting into "you're trying to emulate the specifics of the movie/cartoon/comic to a higher degree" - in other words, instead of the standard fan recognizing you, hardcore fans and 501st members can tell you put more effort and time and money into your costume.
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26 minutes ago, captsafe66 said:
Now then, are there going to be enough pics for the LMO to approve this CRL? At least we'll have the Blue Ray in a couple of weeks.
That's a good question because he's in the Visual Guide but I don't recall seeing him in the actual movie.
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10 hours ago, Angelus said:
The patch from Endorfinders.com as I was told to order from there. But I feel that the color somehow is not right. As I thought for the patch is more light blue color.
Yeah. John got the colors wrong. Scott Will ran a patch run a while back that was right - doubtful he will run it again, but he might, or we could talk to John about changing the colors.
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Apologies, but it looks nothing like the actual patch, other than the lines. It's horrid. They didn't even bother to fill in the outside border.
Given we have multiple pictures on what it SHOULD look like, the fact someone felt the need to half-do one just... no.