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We definitely need this Trenchcoat as an addition! Do we have some good screencaps somewhere?
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I made myself one years ago:
And it finally had it's debut at this years Vienna ComicCon to have some little extra fun beside the official uniform
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16 hours ago, chicken45 said:
Few things to note!
Lt Gorn's trench coat seems to be the same as the white/gray ISB trenchcoat.
He wears 2 belt boxes and something else on his right side that is not a belt box.
Screenshotter--DisneyPlus-StarWarsAndor-16’21” by josh_surkosky, on Flickr
His badge looks like it uses the smaller OT style buttons!
Screenshotter--DisneyPlus-StarWarsAndor-28’45” by josh_surkosky, on Flickr
Captain Tigo is wearing a lieutenant rank, wears FOUR belt boxes, and has two code cylandres in one pocket!
Screenshotter--DisneyPlus-StarWarsAndor-17’23” by josh_surkosky, on Flickr
Corv seems to have that same thing on his belt that Gorn does.
Check out that sweet hat/coat hanger on the right!
Screenshotter--DisneyPlus-StarWarsAndor-23’24” (1) by josh_surkosky, on Flickr
One of these unnamed grays looks like he may be wearing straight pants with riding boots.
Screenshotter--DisneyPlus-StarWarsAndor-23’11” by josh_surkosky, on Flickr
What confuses me is that at the ISB the 3 blue rank was called Lieutenant, but on the black uniform Captain, why? XD
Beside that it's great what we see in "Andor" so far and it makes me definitely want to upgrade my ISB Officer collection
Regarding the "coat hanger scene" - is he wearing a grey tunic with black jodhpurs or not?
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Looking almost as good as the CRL Model
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Any Idea when this will go live?
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On 7/9/2020 at 3:19 AM, lantern2745 said:
Hello officers!
So going back to February of 2018 there was discussion of updating the Staff Officer, (black) CRL to bring it in line with Rogue One and Solo.
I've been saying I wanted to get this done, but saying things doesn't do 'em.
Most of the work was done HERE by @Steven, with input from many many others.
I've gone through and tried to verify all aspects of that research using 4K screen captures from Star Wars Screen Caps of both Rogue One and Solo.
What I've come up with (in the next post) is a detailed draft CRL. We have new photos ready for the parts (where needed) and I want to bring it to all of you for critique.
The thrust of this revamp, is two fold.
Firstly, to get R1/Solo costume parts as approvable. Technically they already are, since references always trump CRLs. But this will take any potential fight out of using these parts.
And secondly, to get Staff Officers right. What we refer to as "Staff Officers" - prior to R1 and Solo - did not appear on screen. In A New Hope, their uniforms weren't simply black versions of the Line Officer uniform. Hence, we now have ANH Staff Officer as it's own CRL.
Staff Officers as we classified them didn't appear in ESB or RotJ either. They were all Warrant Officer in RotJ or Navy Officer in ESB and RotJ. But they didn't wear rank bars.
So now that we have a proper ANH CRL, I want the "old" CRL to encompass what we know - which excludes ANH.
This wil NOT affect anyone who is already approved with the Staff Officer (black) CRL. They're grandfathered in.
It will affect approvals going forward. And the last thing I want, is for someone who is close to submitting photos to get denied because we've updated the CRL. So if this proposal carries the day, it will have a lengthy grace period and ample discussion with GMLs before being green lit.
So here is a rundown of the changes.
- Hat disk no notch LVL 1
- Tunic yoke dart language changed at LVL 2
- Rank can be any config that isn't exclusive to ANH LVL 1
- R1/Solo sized buttons LVL 2
- Single bar only LVL 2
- R1/Solo rank only LVL 3
- Between 0 and 2 cylinders LVL 1
- Silver toned clips LVL 2
- Belt grooves LVL 3
- Krennic strap on boots LVL 3
- Belt boxes R1/Solo sized LVL 1 (optional)
- Added short gloves (optional)
- Only accepted blaster SE-14R (optional)
- SR-14R holster (optional)
Now, blasters from comics can be added as references are brought forward. However, it can't JUST be a reference. If an approved costumer gathers the reference AND has the blaster, we can reveiw the entry.
Also, the FO boots aren't included yet. We know they were used. But other than Milton Putna in the Visual Dictionary, I can't find a clear example of them in the screen caps. Also, there seems to have been a hybrid FO boot with a heel to further muddy the water.
I don't want the perfect to be the enemy of the good here though.
In terms of accuracy, this proposal is a seismic shift in the way things have always been and changes one of the oldest CRLs in the IOC.
With all that said, please read it over and ask questions.
- Jeff
@Hask Jeff quoted it in his first post here
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13 hours ago, Hask said:
This is where it is so far, photos of some parts part will be changing once I get them.
Imperial Staff Officer (Non Saga) 
Model ID 98765, Photo by Tania Tindal Conde Visit the Gallery for this Costume for more models and parts views. 
Description: Imperial Staff Officer
Prefix: ID
Detachment: Imperial Officer Corps
Context: Rogue one, Solo, The Mandalorian and Expanded Universe..These black uniformed officers are high class soldiers within the Empire's Imperial Army and provided a commanding presence among the legions of Stormtroopers where their leadership roles often inspire troops in battle. These ambitious officers not only serve aboard starships and military installations but are also pilots for transports.
For 501st membership only the requirements in black need to be met.
The Imperial Officer Corp Detachment defines additional, optional levels of costuming excellence. In the page below, items listed in blue are optional features that will improve the quality of the costume. Items listed in red are intended to further enhance the finished costume. Please visit the Detachment website for more specific details.
Required Costume Components The following costume components are present and appear as described below.
Imperial Hat, Versions Two and Three -
Fabric is a medium weight suiting material matching the pants and tunic if applicable.
- Gabardine style weave is most accurate.
- Hat is coned shaped with a flat crown
- Base of the hat is conical, with a crown about 4" (101.6 mm) tall.
- Front and rear "flaps" overlap on the sides and are about 4" (101.6 mm) high.
- Front bill extends 3" down, decorated with 5, 6 or 7 concentric stitches.
- Code disk is positioned in the center of the front flap, the code disk has no notch.
Tunic, Black - Fabric should be a medium weight suiting material exactly matching the pants and hat.
- Tunic is double-breasted with a left over right closure on the tapered yoke.
- Yoke comes up across the shoulder to the top shoulder seam.
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The standing collar has square corners and is about 1.25" (31.8 mm) tall, closes snugly and includes a modesty panel behind closure.
- Collar edges are closed with two eye hooks.
- There are code cylinder pockets on both outside panels of the jacket from about half way between the top and bottom on the arm hole.
- Sleeves are long, and without decoration, cuffs or buttons, containing 2 seams, one along the bottom and one along the back.
- Tunic is constructed with no top-stitching (stitches visible on the exterior surface of fabric)
- Fasteners on the uniform should not be visible.
OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): - There is a dart of about 2" (50.8 mm) in the top center of the yoke.
- There is a seam running the entire circumference of the tunic, dividing it along a line hidden by the uniform belt.
- The back of the tunic has princess seams that run vertically and turns outward to intersect the arm-hole seam at the vertical center.
OPTIONAL Level three certification (if applicable): - Tunic must be secured on the right side by snaps or buttons, not Velcro.
- There is a lining sewn in.
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Rank Bar - Rank consists of colored plastic tiles mounted on single or double metal or metal looking bars.
- Worn on the left side of the tunic over the heart.
- Bar is approximately 1"(25.4 mm)to 1.25" (31.75 mm)in height.
- Rank tile dimensions are approximately 1/2" (12.7 mm) width x 3/4" (19 mm) height x 1/8" (3.2 mm) deep. - This is the OT size, the correct larger tiles are also acceptable.
- Please note that final dimensions of the bar is proportional to the wearer.
- Rank tiles are translucent, rectangular, positioned side by side in a vertical orientation, and evenly spaced.
- Rank bar corners are hard angle or slightly rounded
- Rank tiles are translucent.
OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): - Rank consists of colored plastic push buttons mounted on a metal bar.
OPTIONAL Level three certification (if applicable): - Push button tiles are larger for Rogue One/Solo (approximately 15 mm wide, 21 mm tall, and 3.2 mm deep) Smaller OT size for The Mandalorian.
New
Code Cylinders -
Between 1 to 4 per costume may be worn.
- Modified: silver "chalk holder" tube with short clip and blue colored top.
- True Dosimeter with correct clip and blue top.
OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): - Only real or replica dosimeters are used.
- If only one is worn, it is on the left side.
New
Gloves - Black, wrist length gloves constructed of a non-textured leather or leather-like material.
- Gloves have a plain back and no visible adornments
OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): - Gloves made of leather
- Gloves end just past the wrist
Belt - The belt is constructed from a non-textured leather or a leather-like material.
- Approximately 2" (50.8 mm) in width, up to 3" (76.2 mm) is acceptable.
- There are no loops on the belt.
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A single large snap or rivet is visible approximately 1" (25.4 mm) from the buckle.
- The belt may be worn with the snap to the right or left of the wearer.
- The buckle is constructed from a horizontally brushed metal, or metal looking material.
- The buckle size is approximately 2 5/8" (66.7 mm) high and 4 1/8" (104.5 mm) wide with 0.5" (12.7 mm) radius rounded corners.
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Buckle is adorned with an Imperial Code Disk at the center.
- Please refer to the Imperial Buckle reference page for information on accurate and inaccurate style buckles.
OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): - Belt is made of leather.
- Snap is worn to the left of the wearer.
- Buckle has a slight horizontal curve.
Jodhpur Trousers, black -
Fabric is a medium weight suiting material exactly matching the tunic and hat.
- Gabardine style weave is most accurate.
- Flared riding breeches are canon.
- Breeches must be worn with boots.
- Pockets are acceptable, although they are not visible with the tunic on.
Officer Boots - Knee-high, black, riding style, lace-less, smooth non-textured, leather or leather-like material.
- There are no buckles, snap tabs or decoration.
- Boots have conservative heels.
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A single stretch panel or zipper may be present, they are to be hidden on the inner part of the boot shaft.
- Not visible from the front, side or back.
- The top of the boots may be flat or Spanish Style, but not Cowboy or Super Hero (pointed at the front) style.
OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): - Boots do not have stretch panels or a zipper.
OPTIONAL Level three certification (if applicable): -
Boots are made of leather.
- Not vinyl or PVC.
- Exact replicas of English riding (dress) boots or Equestrian boots.
Optional Accessories Items below are optional costume accessories. These items are not required for approval, but if present appear as described below. If adding in an accessory after initial approval, the item still needs to be submitted to local GML for approval before use.
Rain Poncho - Made of a black, water sheeting polyester or nylon material.
- The closure is located at the costumers right side. The collar overlaps and the opening is approximately 2.5 inches on the shoulder, going down vertically to the bottom of the yoke.
- The yoke is flush against the costumer and has a seam down the front center, this ends in a point.
- The edge of the poncho has approximately 1 inch seam around all edges.
- The collar is approximately 3 inches tall at the front and is top stitched with lines approximately every 1/4 inch.
- The back of the poncho is flat across the back.
- The poncho voids at the edge of the costumers shoulders.
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The front of the poncho has a piece attached to the yoke but separate from the sides
- The front extends down to just past the crotch area and is tucked in to the costumer's belt.
- There is a code cylinder pocket in which two code cylinders are worn.
Trenchcoat - Made of a medium-weight waterproof fabric that is black; fabric has a matte finish.
- Two flares at the breast overlap and close in the front, left breast over right. The collar continues around the neck and is approximately 3.5 inches wide.
- The inner facing of the upper collar may be of darker fabric but is not required.
- A seam runs down the arm on the outside, it begins at the costumers collar.
- Two inch long cuffed sleeves with a single button towards the end of the cuff. The cuff "strap" ends in a chevron shape.
- On the back the storm shield has a pinch pleat at the top center of the shoulders.
- The coat ends mid-calf and is straight cut along the bottom edge.
- The coat below the belt has a split seam in the back.
- Two pocket flaps may appear at the costumer's hip, but are not required; if present, there should be no visible pocket stitching.
- The coat is worn belted with the standard leather officer's belt or loose.
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Belt Boxes - Dimensions are approximately 2" (50,8mm) wide by 3" (76.2 mm) tall by 1" x (25,4mm) thick
- Two boxes may be worn, one on either side of the belt.
- Placement of the screw / rivet for the belt boxes should be on the shortest side (top and bottom for vertical belt boxes, left and right for horizontal)
OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): - Belt boxes should include a lid on back of the box.
- Belt boxes are made of metal.
- Belt boxes shall be worn only vertically.
OPTIONAL Level three certification (if applicable): - Belt boxes are made of metal.
- Belt box, code cylinder, and rank badge combination is consistent with canon officers.
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Holster, Version four - Made of black leather or leather-like material.
OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): - Holster is affixed via a single loop over the belt.
- Holster is made of leather.
OPTIONAL Level three certification (if applicable): - Holster matches reference image.
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SE-14R Light Repeating Blaster - The barrel detailing is evident with the cocking lever and slider in place.
- The ejection port is also evident.
- The scope mount looks similar to the magazine but smaller in size.
- The scope does not protrude past the blaster body.
Do you still need any pics?
Btw nice to see my initial draft is finally coming to life
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Fabric is a medium weight suiting material matching the pants and tunic if applicable.
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21 hours ago, Alex03 said:
Thanks to all of you for your answers.
The reason why I was wondering about this is that I've seen several artists on social media who offer commissions for personal patch designs, so I wasn't sure if this is something you have to have. But you made it clear to me, thank you. Since it's an optional thing, I guess I will focus on getting my costume ready at first, and then think again about if I want to have a personal patch or not^^
Hi Alexandra, alles oben gesagte stimmt zu 100%
Wenn du Fragen wegen Patches oder überhaupt die Aufnahme in die 501st hast, meld dich gerne bei mir
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That question sounds familiar
although I will have to pay for my next one myself 
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Thanks @lantern2745 for finally bringing this a step closer to a CRL update!
No questions from me so far.
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14 hours ago, kman said:
First Order! Very rare costume.
I'm more partial to the Lieutenant / Captain, but otherwise, the Teal is solid.
Transport would be funny, I agree, but that costume just doesn't sit well with me. Too on the nose from the inspiration for comfort.
Thanks for your input!
AND for the first time since I opened this poll the First Order Major/Colonel uniform is on top
keep voting, ladies and gentleman!
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On 6/26/2020 at 12:16 AM, bjsavage7 said:
Dianoga seems fitting.
Fascinating -^
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If anyone still wants to leave a Vote or a Comment, please feel free to do so
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Well as some of you might have noticed I look quite good in a Transport Security Officer Uniform so I added this as a fourth fun choice, simply to shock some people
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7 hours ago, Amador said:
Hi, Steven! Although I am a newbie on what concern to this matter, between those three I would try Armand Isard as it’s a costume that will certainly stand out from your tunics collection without touching on sequel films. Congratulations with your degree btw!!
Thanks a lot for your reply!
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Hello fellow officers!
I hope you are all doing well in these special times
I made good use of the last months of lockdown and finally finished my university studies and got my diploma degree (equivalent to a masters degree), hooray!
Now I was thinking about giving myself some sort of reward, with a new uniform, what else
But which one should I make? I have three uniforms on my short list (order like they are listed in the CRL Database):
- Armand Isard
- FO Colonel/Major
- FO Flag Officer
They all have some pro and cons which are the following:
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Armand Isard https://databank.501st.com/databank/Costuming:ID_armand_isard
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same pattern as all other imperial uniforms.
I have all the items I need like belt, rank bar, boots and code cylinders.
I just need the red fabric and give it to my seamstress, voilá job done. -
con
might need a wig for the white strand of hair, will talk to my barber about this, not a big con though.
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pro
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FO Colonel/Major https://databank.501st.com/databank/Costuming:ID_First_Order_Colonel_and_Major
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pro
I like the teal colour! It's so different from any other uniform we ever had and it's really an eyecatcher in a big crowd of Officers.
As I found CrowProps on fb the FO boots are no problem anymore, they were really hard to find, on an acceptable prize. -
con
need to find a suitable fabric, I did not really like the fabrics used by different vendors I spotted so far, but the problem is not that big, there is a pretty great fabric store in vienna, I'm sure they have something in stock.
My seamstress would have to make a new pattern, but she can manage this as well.
Hat - not sure she can make the hat because I don't know where to get the visor (any ideas?)
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pro
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FO Flag Officer https://databank.501st.com/databank/Costuming:ID_First_Order_Flag_Officer
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I like the style of the uniform.
Hat is optional!
I really like the red rank strips. -
con
same as for FO Colonel/Major - the different pattern and the hat (if I wanted one), black fabric is very easy to get.
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pro
So what do you say? Do you have a different opinion to one of my points? Let me hear it! And please vote in the poll, thanks!
Imperial Greetings
Steven
ID-23008
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This looks incredibly awesome!
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All the theaters are closed in Austria and all my performances of the last week got cancelled. So I'm staying at home, trying to learn for my diploma examination which is postponed into May instead of April. In the meanwhile I'm reading poems and put them on my new YouTube channel to have some sort of creative distraction.
May you all stay save and healthy!
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Saluti e congratulazioni!
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52 minutes ago, BUGSY575 said:
Thanks, I didn't know there are so few people with Hessen boots. In the worst case I will just stick to ebay and keep on searching. There are often riding boots from Cavallo or Königs for sale and they also look fantastic.
There is/was also a shop in europe with no or not much shipping costs, but they are not making custom boots anymore. One of our new members in Austria had the same problem.
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This looks so awesome!
One good thing about Episode IX - the new Uniforms
The Andor Coffee Tumbler Thread
in The Officer's Lounge
Posted
What shall I say, I like it