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Everyone remember that TIE fighter anime. I'm guessing it might look similar to that.
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This is the best one yet, for now we know why the ranks are the way they are (though your sources would help solidify it.)
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These are uniforms but they are not uniform. This is different from the films and from the other "genetics thus making him an outlier. Remember the 501st is screen accurate not uniform because we want it to be.
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5 minutes ago, Tentayena said:
As one of the few alien Saber Guild members, always more aliens!!
The comics have helped a lot, I think
I'll wear Horrible Clashing Line Officer Thrawn and people get a kick out of it. And I can be ridiculously offended at the color combo. It's a good timePretty sure that is a pantoran with an eye condition.
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@Hask that strap is great, another unique part of the costume for the Hask crl
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1 hour ago, Vengeance said:
Point being the game uniforms and the movie uniforms need to coexist in the same crl, otherwise you have a TFA, TLG, and BF2 costume varient. We don't do that for ANH, ESB, and ROTJ so much.
So much? You just did it then. Other detachments do it. They are different uniforms, plain and simple. Plus he is unique and therefore not generic.
And if the game and movie must coexist then so must animated and film, so the differences between ISB movie and Yularen in Rebels should be overlooked.
Hask compared to the film uniforms is different, and compared to the generic is different, on that evidence alone it deserves it's on hero crl. Add the fact he is the main antagonist in the dlc then he deserves his own CRL.
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Canon wise, there were non humans whom served. They would be a low rank, they would be discriminated against, but there were some. You would have to be a humanoid so pantoran, chose, twi'lek, rodian.
I don't see why not though. Could be fun to do.
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5 hours ago, Vengeance said:
The uniqueness of the character seems marginal as I'm sure his body is identical to other game models save for the face. Regardless he will be useful in helping us develop our First Order developments. Since Dice was attempting to make what we see on screen we should be treating our game models and our film models as directly related otherwise comic references and such will each need their own CRLS to remain consistent across the Board.
That's the thing, his body model is not replicated. Aside from playing as a FO officer (different model, less polygons, female) Hask is the only First Order officer we see in cinematics, so he is already unique.
And Since Rebels was just basing their uniforms of the film's we should just ignore the rebels style uniforms and just have it under one umbrella right. Maybe there should be be animated style clones or stormtroopers either.
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A CRL can be amended, so let's amend all face characters. Come on let's do the work, shouldn't be too hard. I'll set up the Thrawn thread first, should I do legends or canon Thrawn first?
Would that piss people off? Yes! Same with Hask being a face character not a generic. Hell, the name generic would mean that Hask is not named at all, but he is a main character.
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Yes, people would lose their minds because it's a stupid idea. Tactically speaking, a surrender and acceptance of your fate would be a smart move here. There has been plenty of evidence supplied against your argument, and you have riled up the IOC.
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Just now, Centauri said:
This is entirely correct , yet you're overlooking a point that several people brought up already and that was brushed aside a little too quickly .
Hask is a Hero character like Iden and the rest of Inferno Squad , and by the end of the game , the main antagonist .
He's NOT a generic character , period .
Or we might as well just delete the Hux CRL because he could be a Generic FO General , downgrade Tarkin to a Generic Grand Moff , etc ...I didn't think you could make a generic Grand Moff? It had to be Tarkin.
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Just now, GDMorti said:
Facial specifics isnt in question here. This has been mentioned a number of times. It's costume differences.
The facial scaring is part of the costume. Just like Tarkin/Thrawn/Hux/Daala
- Centauri, CommanderBaz and Hask
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All stormtroopers in the origtrig get a single CRL. Just minor differences between them. Ask the FISD to do that, then you can get your generic.
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17 minutes ago, Tutanchseth said:
So at the beginning of this discussion we had five points in which the generic model differs that was the reason to split the CRL in a Generic and a Hask version:
- Colour
- Rank bars
- Belt/Shoes
- Design
- Code Cylinder
The belt/shoes were dropped later and the color was at least questioned,
So at the end of the day there are three points left that define that Hask has to be an separate CRL. Rank Bars, Design and Code Cylinder. I'd say congratulations, these are the same arguments that were used to justify e.g. why there's only one CRL for the line officers.
I can only agree with @Tentayena on this one. Nobody denies that Hask shouldn't be a wearable variant as the character has a stressed role for the plot. But the intended decision to split the CRLs mismatches the procdures of the past.
There's two line officer CRLs. Generic, and Tarkin.
It's simple, Hask is a hero character.
Hux is a hero character
Thrawn is a hero character
Tarkin is a hero character
None of them are just a regular officer, and each one requires specific facial make up to get them approved. Thrawn's uniform is exactly the same as the legends GA, Hux is exactly the same as the FO General, Tarkin has an undershirt. You want Hask to be a generic, then make them generics first, but there will be backlash from the 501st, and those who went after those face characters, those hero characters.
Hask, is different from the in game model for play, that has been proven.
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8 hours ago, Ithilnar said:
That's why I want ISB officer uniform - because in my head-canon is female officer, captain, from this formation. Abd this is fantastic!
Off topic, but if you understand how the VSD and how it was built, and it's weaponry it can take down an ISD one on one. It does loose out when you include fighter support, and it is underpowered in the engine compartment, but it's hyperdrive is far superior. It is a beautiful ship.
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Bit of a canon add, to add to the discussions. I believe the helmets are for stormtrooper cadets, while helmetless are officer cadets. I kinda like the idea of the cadet being one CRL, stormtrooper cadet being an additional piece myself.
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22 minutes ago, GDMorti said:
I understand and support the L3 requirements to emulate a specific officer. You're entirely right, and it's a truth I came to terms with following the FO Lieutenant not being published as Mitaka. We cannot make a CRL for every officer, it'd be ridiculous. XD But as you say, you can specify even at basic if you so wish, just gives you a head start when you aim for levels two and three!
When you say: "If someone creates a costume for the FO/Battlefront Officer(Generic), we can explore that CRL as well."
That's essentially what we're discussing here. That there is only a Battlefront 2 First Order Officer CRL. That there should not be a Hask specific CRL.There is not though. Enough evidence has been submitted and the LMO has backed this up (from me skimming over) for there to be a generic and Hask CRL, just like generic line officer and Grand Moff Tarkin (by your argument that should be 1 CRL), Thrawn and the legends Grand Admiral should be the same, the FO General and General Hux should be the same.
Hask, being modelled differently, with different colours, additional gear, and facial features such as the scar, compared to the generic in game player controlled model are two separate CRLs, and should be written by the person who actually made the costume, then we can argue over the wording like grey or freaking black.
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That is how the 501st works, you costume what you see on screen. That is one reason the Hask CRL is dragging on because some people insist on it being lumped in with the generic even though there are light and day differences.
While I wholeheartedly agree with you, the evidence must be there, and more than just circumstantial, which most of this is.
Rebels' Era Grand Admiral Trawn CRL discussion (inc generic Grand Admiral)
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We know, from books, that there are generic Grand Admirals. The issue is that we do not have enough reference to their uniforms. Thrawn is the only example of a full uniform (Rae Sloane only has the top). We ultimately need a few more visual pieces of evidence before a generic can be produced.