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But it wasn't just Kris Kpbus who would have made the decision... it's a whole team of LMOs who decides whether it's greenlighted or not.

But it wasn't just Kris Kpbus who would have made the decision... it's a whole team of LMOs who decides whether it's greenlighted or not.

But it wasn't just Kris Kpbus who would have made the decision... it's a whole team of LMOs who decides whether it's greenlighted or not.

This is quite the conundrum, however I agree with the LMO team on this one. I'm getting a kick out of people saying certain LMO's don't understand these costumes, they do. From what I've seen, most of these LMO's have worked on far more complex costumes. At the end of the day, it's just looking at photos and writing details into a CRL; they understand these costumes. 
 
I've been following this build since it started. While staff may have never been notified about the decision that this wasn't going to be a CRL, we should have seen it coming. We knew early on that we lacked reference photos. Stephanie and others have done a terrific job, but surely they knew the risk of this not becoming a CRL due to lack of reference. Silver lining, they have an awesome costume they can wear to cons now! We have the same issue with the Solo Navy trooper and grey ANH officer, very little refences, yet people are working on a CRL, someone should warn them it may not happen. I think as a group we need to start tempering our expectations, just because its on screen for a few shots doesn't mean it will become a CRL, we need more references! The 501st is a club that follows strict standards, its our claim to fame. We have to follow the references to uphold our reputation, or we risk tarnishing it.
 
One argument I've been seeing is we should put out what we have and if we get new photos, we'll update the CRL; that's a slippery slope. If we start publishing half baked CRLs, the standards will keep dropping for every CRL after.
 
That's just my two cents.

I can't speak to that, but if what you say is accurate, to me it is a "two wrongs don't make a right" situation. Pointing out other mistakes or errors in judgement should not be a platform to try to push through another one. That should be repaired rather than considered an acceptable precedent. 

Not sure if we’re thinking of the same vendor, but I’ve just seen it in MazCave’s Etsy store.

Thanks Nat I was going to suggest exactly that 

ID 50299 recently cleared First Order Captain.

when your Son finds your swagger stick 
 

Hi, 
I would like to add this datapad to the First Order Lieutenant/Captain CRL:
 
Security Sealed Officer’s Datapad
Security Sealed Datapads are used by officers of the First Order. As they contain highly sensitive information they are kept locked and keyed to specific officers only. They were used aboard First Order Star Destroyers such as the Supremacy.
 

This will be the home for the "Official" work list.  "Official" in this case means ones that the Command Staff are aware of, and thus should not be taken to mean nothing else is in the works.
It will remain locked and updated by staff as additional CRLs are brought to our attention and (behind the scenes) work begins.
Please continue to use the CRL Updates area to discuss possible revisions as normal.
Thank you
- Jeff

Description: First Order crew
Prefix: ID
Detachment: Imperial Officer Corps 
Context: The Last Jedi
First Order Crew consists of Non-Commissioned officers assigned to the bridge of a starship or command centre. These crew members monitor and coordinate overall functions.
 
First Order Crew Tunic, Black
-Fabric is a smooth, light to medium weight material exactly matching the pants and has a noticeable sheen.
-Tunic is fitted.
-The First Order patch is centered on left bicep.
-The collar is snugly fitting, mandarin style and is secured at the front with hidden hook and eye closures.
-The tunic has epaulettes on both shoulders and are sewn down flat, running from the collar seam to just past the top of the arm seam.
-The tunic is free of stitching on the sleeves, collar, tunic opening or along the bottom of the tunic.
-Sleeves are long and end at the wrist.
-Front: The front seams on the chest curve back into the torso
~Front Hemline is approximately 1” longer than the backside hemline
~Has a sharp angled drop approximately ⅓” distance between side seams and center seam
-The closures are hidden inside the opening of the tunic.
-Back: There are princess seams on the back.
~There is a seam to the rear of each side of the torso from under the arm continuing to the bottom.
-The Tunic material is a shiny, wrinkle-less material.
 
 Crew, Jodhpur Trousers, Black
-Fabric is a medium weight black suiting material exactly matching the tunic
-Flared riding breeches have semi-stiff flares in the hip/thigh area, below the tunic and above the knee.
-Pocket “Flaps” are present on both sides of the pants – Does not need to be functional.
 
Crew Boots, Black
Knee-high, black, lace-less, smooth non-textured, leather or leather-like material, with moderate to high-gloss shine.
There are no stretch panels, buckles, snap tabs, or decoration.
Boot seams closely match screen-used boots.
Soles are flat.
If zippers are present, they are on the inner part of the boot shaft only.
 
First Order Rank Insignia.
Worn on the left side of arm, above the wrist and below the elbow
Rank consists of one black band sewn down to the sleeve with Aurebesh embroidered on it. The edges utilize piping or an embroidered line on each side.
The Aurebesh spells "RO8" or "Hal4"
Both piping (if used) and embroidery (Aurabesh and lines) are white. 
OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):
The edges are embroidered
 




 
 

Description: First Order crew
Prefix: ID
Detachment: Imperial Officer Corps 
Context: The Last Jedi
First Order Crew consists of Non-Commissioned officers assigned to the bridge of a starship or command centre. These crew members monitor and coordinate overall functions.
 
First Order Crew Tunic, Black
-Fabric is a smooth, light to medium weight material exactly matching the pants and has a noticeable sheen.
-Tunic is fitted.
-The First Order patch is centered on left bicep.
-The collar is snugly fitting, mandarin style and is secured at the front with hidden hook and eye closures.
-The tunic has epaulettes on both shoulders and are sewn down flat, running from the collar seam to just past the top of the arm seam.
-The tunic is free of stitching on the sleeves, collar, tunic opening or along the bottom of the tunic.
-Sleeves are long and end at the wrist.
-Front: The front seams on the chest curve back into the torso
~Front Hemline is approximately 1” longer than the backside hemline
~Has a sharp angled drop approximately ⅓” distance between side seams and center seam
-The closures are hidden inside the opening of the tunic.
-Back: There are princess seams on the back.
~There is a seam to the rear of each side of the torso from under the arm continuing to the bottom.
-The Tunic material is a shiny, wrinkle-less material.
 
 Crew, Jodhpur Trousers, Black
-Fabric is a medium weight black suiting material exactly matching the tunic
-Flared riding breeches have semi-stiff flares in the hip/thigh area, below the tunic and above the knee.
-Pocket “Flaps” are present on both sides of the pants – Does not need to be functional.
 
Crew Boots, Black
Knee-high, black, lace-less, smooth non-textured, leather or leather-like material, with moderate to high-gloss shine.
There are no stretch panels, buckles, snap tabs, or decoration.
Boot seams closely match screen-used boots.
Soles are flat.
If zippers are present, they are on the inner part of the boot shaft only.
 
First Order Rank Insignia.
Worn on the left side of arm, above the wrist and below the elbow
Rank consists of one black band sewn down to the sleeve with Aurebesh embroidered on it. The edges utilize piping or an embroidered line on each side.
The Aurebesh spells "RO8" or "Hal4"
Both piping (if used) and embroidery (Aurabesh and lines) are white. 
OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):
The edges are embroidered
 




 
 

And no belt buckle

Description: First Order crew
Prefix: ID
Detachment: Imperial Officer Corps 
Context: The Last Jedi
First Order Crew consists of Non-Commissioned officers assigned to the bridge of a starship or command centre. These crew members monitor and coordinate overall functions.
 
First Order Crew Tunic, Black
-Fabric is a smooth, light to medium weight material exactly matching the pants and has a noticeable sheen.
-Tunic is fitted.
-The First Order patch is centered on left bicep.
-The collar is snugly fitting, mandarin style and is secured at the front with hidden hook and eye closures.
-The tunic has epaulettes on both shoulders and are sewn down flat, running from the collar seam to just past the top of the arm seam.
-The tunic is free of stitching on the sleeves, collar, tunic opening or along the bottom of the tunic.
-Sleeves are long and end at the wrist.
-Front: The front seams on the chest curve back into the torso
~Front Hemline is approximately 1” longer than the backside hemline
~Has a sharp angled drop approximately ⅓” distance between side seams and center seam
-The closures are hidden inside the opening of the tunic.
-Back: There are princess seams on the back.
~There is a seam to the rear of each side of the torso from under the arm continuing to the bottom.
-The Tunic material is a shiny, wrinkle-less material.
 
 Crew, Jodhpur Trousers, Black
-Fabric is a medium weight black suiting material exactly matching the tunic
-Flared riding breeches have semi-stiff flares in the hip/thigh area, below the tunic and above the knee.
-Pocket “Flaps” are present on both sides of the pants – Does not need to be functional.
 
Crew Boots, Black
Knee-high, black, lace-less, smooth non-textured, leather or leather-like material, with moderate to high-gloss shine.
There are no stretch panels, buckles, snap tabs, or decoration.
Boot seams closely match screen-used boots.
Soles are flat.
If zippers are present, they are on the inner part of the boot shaft only.
 
First Order Rank Insignia.
Worn on the left side of arm, above the wrist and below the elbow
Rank consists of one black band sewn down to the sleeve with Aurebesh embroidered on it. The edges utilize piping or an embroidered line on each side.
The Aurebesh spells "RO8" or "Hal4"
Both piping (if used) and embroidery (Aurabesh and lines) are white. 
OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):
The edges are embroidered
 




 
 

Description: First Order crew
Prefix: ID
Detachment: Imperial Officer Corps 
Context: The Last Jedi
First Order Crew consists of Non-Commissioned officers assigned to the bridge of a starship or command centre. These crew members monitor and coordinate overall functions.
 
First Order Crew Tunic, Black
-Fabric is a smooth, light to medium weight material exactly matching the pants and has a noticeable sheen.
-Tunic is fitted.
-The First Order patch is centered on left bicep.
-The collar is snugly fitting, mandarin style and is secured at the front with hidden hook and eye closures.
-The tunic has epaulettes on both shoulders and are sewn down flat, running from the collar seam to just past the top of the arm seam.
-The tunic is free of stitching on the sleeves, collar, tunic opening or along the bottom of the tunic.
-Sleeves are long and end at the wrist.
-Front: The front seams on the chest curve back into the torso
~Front Hemline is approximately 1” longer than the backside hemline
~Has a sharp angled drop approximately ⅓” distance between side seams and center seam
-The closures are hidden inside the opening of the tunic.
-Back: There are princess seams on the back.
~There is a seam to the rear of each side of the torso from under the arm continuing to the bottom.
-The Tunic material is a shiny, wrinkle-less material.
 
 Crew, Jodhpur Trousers, Black
-Fabric is a medium weight black suiting material exactly matching the tunic
-Flared riding breeches have semi-stiff flares in the hip/thigh area, below the tunic and above the knee.
-Pocket “Flaps” are present on both sides of the pants – Does not need to be functional.
 
Crew Boots, Black
Knee-high, black, lace-less, smooth non-textured, leather or leather-like material, with moderate to high-gloss shine.
There are no stretch panels, buckles, snap tabs, or decoration.
Boot seams closely match screen-used boots.
Soles are flat.
If zippers are present, they are on the inner part of the boot shaft only.
 
First Order Rank Insignia.
Worn on the left side of arm, above the wrist and below the elbow
Rank consists of one black band sewn down to the sleeve with Aurebesh embroidered on it. The edges utilize piping or an embroidered line on each side.
The Aurebesh spells "RO8" or "Hal4"
Both piping (if used) and embroidery (Aurabesh and lines) are white. 
OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):
The edges are embroidered
 




 
 

Hi!
Overall this is a superb build!
However, I would also like to point out that on the back pictures there seems to be a presence of the curved seams/top stitching of the back and also one seam running down the material. However, from my own research it appears to be all one piece of material.
 
 
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I agree, it's tricky to pin down solid screenshots proving this in TFA, however in TLJ you get a few reasonable shots of the back of the same style jacket with no seams present that I can tell:

The very far right of the screen is the curvature of the back of someone wearing this style of jacket, you get a pretty good look at it if you check the movie. No seams at all that I can see.

Just had a look at this and the boots have thick panel that runs the height of the boot at the back, this panel should not be there

Firstly  your contradicting yourself by saying ' orange tiles are operations' then in your reply you go on about how 'He could be a science officer, his title.  He could also wear the rank of a colonel  as an operations officer in the imperial military. '
You also seem to state you have 'stuff to back it up' however, all you have said it what people have said.
I could quite easily state that George Lucas has said that Star Wars is in the same universe as Star Trek. Does it make it so? No.
 

Firstly  your contradicting yourself by saying ' orange tiles are operations' then in your reply you go on about how 'He could be a science officer, his title.  He could also wear the rank of a colonel  as an operations officer in the imperial military. '
You also seem to state you have 'stuff to back it up' however, all you have said it what people have said.
I could quite easily state that George Lucas has said that Star Wars is in the same universe as Star Trek. Does it make it so? No.
 

In my opinion, the Republic became too corrupt and disorganised like some Republics can be such as the Roman Republic in our universe, the Empire overall was looking at unity of the galaxy under one order. I like the fact that the Empire from the perspective of ordinary citizens was overall a regime, to promote peace and order after the bloody Clone Wars and that's to me why I like the Imperial side. It's more uniformed and more efficient compared to the Republic era and the costumes overall reflect this. 
The rise of the Galactic Empire is very similar to the fall of the Roman Republic and rise of the Empire which is also something I am interested in .

As I promised - here is photo of small part of entire article. I made it fast, so yestarday I will add photos of entire text.
I' m very excited, because publishing in this magazine was one of my dreams.
 

Yes, I agree much of these 8 pages aren't overly constructive to the subject, & I don't think there's really much more to discuss here.
I'd prefer to not have to lock this thread so lets all be patient & please keep the tone light, and positive.  Thanks! 

There will be an imperial immigration officer.  It is a navy trooper with the chest armor of a ground crew tech much like Jyn Erso wears in disguise.