Evilshadow

Hi guys,
 
Find attached pictures for the lvl 3 certification.
 
Executor approved : https://r.tapatalk.com/shareLink?url=https://www.imperialofficer.com/forum/index.php?/topic/12150-id-22032-cleared-isb-officer-version-3-executor-1382/&share_tid=12150&share_fid=51252&share_type=t
 
Best regards!
ID-22032 Evilshadow
Spanish Garrison
 
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Request Acknowledged.
 
Ill try and get to this as soon as I can, but Im pretty busy right now. It may take me a few days. Thanks for your patience.

Good luck  

Detachment wise do Spec ops want this is one thing?

Was that CRL however created before the current rules? Remember things change, I'm not apposed to this configuration I'm just pointing out a possible prevention

Admiral versio however is considered canon and so by that so is his uniform, the officer uniform under the battle armour is seen in the movie scenes and also by that makes it eligible for 501st inclusion, it could be argued that the armoured version is not eligible because it can be customised 

Thought I’d weigh in on this outfit as well as the subject of battlefront being used at all as a CRL reference.  I’ve been doing a lot of thinking on the subject lately. The short is that EA/Dice shouldn’t be trusted on accuracy any more than say Hasbro. Remember EA is a third party licensee, and while Lucasfilm signs off on their game, that doesn’t mean they are giving the tick of approval that every single thing in the game is now canon and 100% accurate,  films still override everything. Hasbro for example, their figures are usually pretty accurate, but not always perfect (E.g. The black series General Veers uses the exact same legs as Krennic, including the straps on the top of his boots. This doesn’t mean this is approvable for Veers, just Hasbro reusing parts cause they’re close enough and most people don’t know the difference. And let’s not forget the 3.75 Revan figure has the wrong mask because someone at Hasbro used an image of a fan mod as reference and even that got past Lucasfilm).
 
And this officer falls perfectly into category of inaccuracies that shouldn’t be used in costuming. For starters, the outfit has every intent of being a classic line officer uniform. I’d wager the armour was decided as they’ve seen a picture of veers and that’s what the officer’s should wear. But as Lieutenant J.G. said in the other thread, they only received the snowtrooper chest and harness as reference so they just used that, but the intent would have been Veers’ outfit.
 
The pants are the part where they have just recycled assets, as shown in the picture below. They have used the exact same model for the pants/boots as the first order officer on both the Imperial and Republic officer. This is just Dice taking a shortcut to save time, but we should be ignoring things like this because we know what those pants are supposed to be.

 
The collar is just another casualty of EA not being a stickler for details, same goes for the seam down the middle of the back. People are making 3d models (generally on a strict timeframe, they can’t spend as much time as they like on one character) and those errors in accuracy really shouldn’t make it into the 501st. Just take a look at the pictures below, the metal rod on the back of the helmet is poorly aligned and just floating off the surface, there’s no chin strap and there are 2 belts clipping through each other because they just slapped the FO officer belt on him (you can even see the FO buckle poking out); doesn’t really inspire confidence in accuracy.

 
I’m always reminded of the Armoured cavalry corps view on the lone AT-ST pilot in Return of the Jedi who was wearing Veers’ helmet from Empire as a clear case of “dressing to fill out a scene”. Their view is this helmet isn’t approvable because the consistent look of pilots is more important than being literal to costuming errors.
 
At the end of the day, this outfit just seems like a bit of a mess resulting from incorrect references and modellers taking artistic liberties to save time, neither should be used as reference. The same can be said for Admiral Versio; that outfit would have been intended as your standard ANH ISB uniform with a standard admiral rank bar addition, and has gone through modeller interpretation.
 
Apologies for the essay, I’m more a lurker on the boards but wanted to speak up as I’m quite passionate about costume standards, but following video game models too closely can start to degrade costumes we already know inside out.

Problem of Soviet boots is that their leather is not as sturdy as others, so the top tends to fall and cause flaps

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It might have already been mentioned in this thread but I've heard of people having luck finding boots over on Sovietboots.com, could be worth a look?

I'm with you, love to talk about this crl stuff, notice I've posted examples before

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Very fair! I'd just worry that as the zippers were not seen on screen, there is no real guarantee that those boots were screen used, but I see what you mean! They're a good representation for the "spanish style" you see referenced on CRL texts. It confused me back in the day too. XD

I would take those boots with a pinch of salt, as I don't think anyone has managed to catch visual proof of boots with inner zips like that on film at any point for the OT.

Those look like fine boots, although if they're custom, they should really be flat top instead of curved tops like that.  The Spanish tops are permitted, but the flat tops are more accurate, and what is preferred for higher accuracy level approvals.  Safe to assume that is an option?

Do you have a link to their website, and photos?

Have a look at this thread, it might help you:
 
 

I feel it starts from body posture frist. When you have a good body posture, it helps a lot in doing the frist step in the role

Apologies I dropped my phone and posted before I was finished typing, there is a 5 day window for those to post an interest

I can get pics of R1 ISB by the beggining of September in the studio of my university, I'm a photographer

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Hi IOC, as part of the new CRL program we are looking for members who would be willing to take pictures of the following.
 
ANH ISB with straight pants
ANH ISB with Jodphurs
R1 ISB Including seperate hat picture.
 
These pictures must be high resolution and no background clutter Fron, back and both sides.
 
Please please post below if you are willing and which costume, name and costume only no photos
 
There will be a 5 day window for those interested