I’m so excited and glad to be apart of such a great organization and community like the 501st legion. It’s a honor and privilege to be working in the Imperial Officers Corp! I hope to be trooping with you guys soon! Sound off if your in the Florida garrison!
Stand up straight and keep your chin up! You represent a galaxy-spanning empire!
Shrink a little in the presence of Lord Vader, help elevate his menace by appearing unsettled by him.
Always keep a lookout. Your field of vision and hearing is far superior than your helmeted counterparts, so keep a watch for little ones who go in for a hug with a Stormtrooper's legs. Your fellow troopers will be immensely grateful for it.
You are the voice of the 501st. Be prepared to speak on behalf of Lord Vader or any other Face Character of the Empire who does not wish to speak through their own outfit.
If someone seems intimidated or too shy to approach, remember that you're one of the few with the power to smile and seem less threatening.
Some in-character lines used on my troops so far:
"Trooper(s)! This cadet would like a holo with the Empire's finest!" - A child has approached for a photo opportunity. Get the trooper's attention along with this line.
"Citizen, are you aware your outfit is in breach of Imperial Law?" - A child or adult approaches wearing Rebellion symbols and iconography.
"Your support is appreciated, loyal citizen. Remember to keep an eye out for Rebel sympathizers." - A child or adult approaches wearing Imperial symbols and iconography.
"Send word to the inquisitors! I found a Jedi!" - A child or adult approaches wielding a Blue/Green/Yellow Lightsaber.
"My lord, we are honored by your presence." - A child or adult approaches wielding a Red Lightsaber.
For me these are the two main guidelines: Situation and faced costume/first interaction.
Then you will always have to main components: Body language and talking with people.
Body language: for me it should always express confidence and leadership. Except maybe if the emperor or Lord Vader are near you. Here depending on the situation you can play that role of nervous officer with their "bosses" ( For example, I always love to touch my neck and express a kind of relief, once Vader passes by me in any troop). But by general rule, you will be the first one to go in front of the troopers, you will be the one directing people, etc. Doing this with your back straight, head up is a nice touch. Also, in my garrison officers are also critical since as face characters we are taking care of the troopers that can't see too well with their helmets. So specially in closed environments our role of "direct" our colleges is not only to get us in character, but also it has practical reasons.
Talking with people: As a Spanish guy living in France, my accent and "broken" French is a theme of conversation (a usual, "lord Vader has re-assign me in here" "some people get assigned to Coruscant, I was assigned to Paris" is a classic starter). So apart from the classic "rebel warnings/imperial propaganda and patrolling stuff" I trend to use things from my life to incorporate them into my imperial officer stuff and adapt it to the situation. Apart from my accent, another example of this was with one group of kids, we were talking and there was one who wasn't very receptive. I found out he liked boxing (and I practice boxing in real life). So we started talking about boxing and how I had learned it through the imperial academy. So the kid started to interact with us. Also another theme of conversation that usually works is to "present" your fellow troopers (Explaining, this is a TIE fighter pilot, this a stormtrooper, their work is to do this, bla bla...), In general terms, since we are the faced characters, most of the people will start to interact with our troops through us. So for me talking with people is the first step to have this interaction. Some times they are afraid, or they are shy, or they don't know very well how to interact with you. As line officer, I just talk with people to breach that initial gap. And then it is always fun to see them how they enter in the game once you stay in character.
In summary I believe that the key facts are: Situation and first/main troopers to interact with people.
For the situation, experience in different types of events will get you better in knowing what works, and what doesn't. So you will be getting this with the past of time.
For the first/main interaction or lead role with the troops I think that we have it really easy. As our characters are usually leading the interactions of troopers and people in SW. So it is a win, win situation. If you stay in character, you will fulfill this role. On a personal level I like to incorporate things from real life whenever I see it could be useful. And body language is also important to stay in character.
And of course ALWAYS:
Without these two the rest just doesn't work.
Well, I hope this helps
That's a question that has no exact answer. As an Imperial Officer you should act in character wherever the situation presents itself. And that is the key. It entirely depends on the situation.
I've known Imperial Officers to quietly ask, "you're going to be arrested, sir. Would you like it done nicely or nastily?". Of course most choose the nastily option, at which point the officer bawls his instructions and orders TK's around. Now this might be fun, and the subject might also enjoy it, but what about the 90 year old grandmother casually walking past minding her own business? So always think about the entire situation.
As open faced costumes we are the voice of the squad we are with, so think about that as well.
Generally, start with some courteous, add a little pompous, a hint of supremacy and lot of being really scared of Lord Vader. You'll then have the perfect mix.
I have seen a lot of interpretation through the years. MANY. The only ones that have gotten us in trouble are the ones that are brusk or intolerant. We know Star Wars forwards and backwards. There is no guarantee that the people that interact or view us may know anything of who or what we are, so do be cautious.
We are unlike any other costume in the imperial forces, because people get to see our face and that is often the people that they will directly interact with. More than anyone else we are ambassadors.
Hello fellow Officers! I have been absent for some time between Covid and life, but I'm hoping to be on here more again in the near future. I am settled in to my new home and my son Jackson is now 2 months old and sleeping through the night. I'll have to make him a crew suit soon! I am on the facebook groups more often if anyone needs costume advice, just look for Benjamin Salisbury. Great t be back on the job again! Hope to see some of you in Anaheim next May! Long live the Empire!
Ended up trying to mimic Tarkin with this thinking pose for my submission to the GML, although I'll need to re-submit due to having to make some amendments.
Thanks for all the hard work that went into this and all involved. It's been interesting to be part of the process. I learned about things and get to have a Shiney new costume to use this weekend to meet the man himself!
@whitmers This work needs to proceed regardless. @kman will work with @Hoda and @shadan to get the text of the CRL right. They should have access to the document you provided them. Make sure that decisions are kept here and in the open so people can review them. We need to fish or cut bait with getting this text finished. I'll do what I can to assist with it.
This thread will be where we work on developing the language for the CRL for this new-to-the-Legion costume, trailblazed by @whitmers. Here is his WIP thread:
This placeholder thread will start work on the language to be submitted to the Legion for the CRL and this initial post will be updated and revised as decisions are made and we narrow in on final wording.
Moff Gideon CRL
Description: Moff Gideon
Prefix: ID
Detachment: Imperial Officer Corps
Context: The Mandalorian, Season 1
Moff Gideon served as an officer in the Imperial Security Bureau of the Galactic Empire and participated in the Great Purge of the Mandalorians during the Imperial Era. In the aftermath of the fall of Mandalore, Gideon came into possession of the Darksaber, and has been pursuing the capture and study of the alien creature Grogu, as a means to further his ambitions as a leader of a remnant of the Empire. He is imposing and ruthless, willing to kill fellow Imperials to achieve his goals, as shown by his non-hesitation in killing over a dozen stormtroopers when he first arrived on Nevarro and killing an officer for interrupting him. He is an adept tactician and skilled at both psychological warfare and personal combat.
Hair and facial appearance
Hair is natural, short and well-groomed
Costumer is clean-shaven
A thin, neat mustache, may be present
Level 2: A thin, neat mustache, natural in appearance, is present
Hair matches very closely to that of Gian Carlo Esposito in The Mandalorian, S1.
Tunic
Tunic is made of black suiting material, gabardine or twill weave is most appropriate
A mandarin-style collar is present
Tunic and collar both fasten at the rear
Sleeves are long, and without decoration, cuffs or buttons
A single outer seam exists with red piping extending from shoulder to cuff
There are two vertical seams intersecting the front of the tunic from the top of the shoulders to the waist
At the waist there is a seam running the entire circumference of the tunic
From the waist down the fabric is quilted around the waist
Level with the left and right vertical seams, the quilted section is divided into panels approximately 1.5 inches wide
A leather or leather-like trim runs vertically down the leading edge of the costumer’s right quilted section, around the entire lower edge of the tunic and back up the right hip
Tunic is constructed with no top-stitching (no stitching to to be visible on the exterior surface of fabric)
Cloak
Cloak is black and extends down from the shoulders to approximately just above ankle height
Cloak is made from heavier coat-weight fabric with a slight nap; melton is most appropriate
The cloak is attached via hidden means
Top edge of cloak follows along the top of the shoulder lines and the base of the neck
Cut with an oval-shaped hem, not a straight edge parallel to the ground: The back center is noticeably lower to the ground than the front edges.
A red lining is present and is not sewn in at the bottom
Trim is present which extends approximately 1” on the outside leading edge, and 1.5 to 2 inches along the inside leading edge of the cloak, including both sides and the top edge over the back of the shoulders
Trim is grey, or black when a suitable patterned overlay is applied which gives the trim the appearance of grey
If an overlay is applied it will be a white/grey hexagonal outline pattern
Red piping intersects the trim and the main bulk of cloak
The red piping color matches that used on the tunic and jodphurs
Level 2: The trim is black with a white/grey hexagonal overlay applied, giving the trim the appearance of grey
Five to Six evenly spaced pleats are present, centered at the back of the neck, where the cape fabric meets the trim
Jodphur Trousers
Jodhpurs are made of a black suiting material matching the tunic
A black leather or leather like panel is present on the inside of each leg
Lower edge of panel begins inside the area covered by the boots, or extends to the leg openings
Red piping matching the tunic sleeves extends from the hip to under the boot on the outside edge of the each leg
Level 2: Panel tapers to a rounded point from the lower leg, where half the leg is covered, upwards to end approximately midway up the inner thigh
Cummerbund / Sash
Cummerbund is worn around the waist and is made of soft black leather (or similar in appearance to leather) and matching that of the gauntlet cuffs
Nine semi-rigid ribs matching that of the cuffs are present
Ribs are a series of fourteen nested right angles beginning at the center and branching off to the left and right, with the first rib connecting to create an inverted ‘T’ shape as the 15th vertical
The nested right angles are repeated on the back of the cummerbund
Red piping is present along the upper and lower edges of the cummerbund, matching the red piping of the tunic, jodphurs and cloak
A silver medallion measuring approximately 1.5” across, matching the reference images, is affixed centrally to the front of the cummerbund
Medallion consists of a raised center circle in the center with a raised edging
Two small circular holes are on either side laterally of the raised center
Level 2: Medallion will have slight weathering.
Armor
Note : All references of Right & Left are from the viewer’s point-of-view.
Armor consists of the chest and optional back piece; armor and greeblies details match visual references.
Accurate shape/design to front of chest.
The sides of the chestplate are gloss black. The armor curves around the sides.
The chestplate has a satin black inverted trapezoid-shaped top panel (separate or attached) at the center top portion of the glossy black main chest armor.
The top panel terminates at the center of the chest armor, with an additional thin trapezoidal inset.
The top panel of the chest plate contains two identical depressions at the top center.
At the front center, below the top panel, a satin black center inset panel is moulded in, which includes these details:
Two recessed circular buttons are present on the upper left corner of the section, with red on the left and white on the right.
In the bottom right of the inset panel there is an additional inset portion, which holds two grey rectangular pieces, flanking a slightly longer and wider white rectangular piece.
Tie-Pilot styled ribbed shoulder bridges connect the Chest Armor and Back armor (if present), disappearing under the cape.
Attached to the straps is a flat black rectangular greeblie with slightly curved sides. It is about ¼ inch (.6mm) wider than the strap on either side and about 3 ¾ inches (9.5cm) by 2 ¼ inches (5.7cm) long.
The rectangular strap greeblie has 4 rectangular moulded buttons, each 1 inch by ⅝ inch (2.5cm by 1.6 cm). The center buttons are red. The top and bottom buttons are black. On the inside portion towards the neck is a rectangular detail with a center depression.
There is a detailed bracket where the chest armor connects with the shoulder straps, which has a central circle with a raised circular section on 2 prongs.
There are two oval holes near the front edges with a circular hole central between them.
The strap greeblies connect to the chest plate at brackets
There is a detailed rectangular greeblie on top of the shoulder strap.
There are 4 rectangles, each 1 inch by ⅝ inch (2.5cm by 1.6 cm). The center 2 are red. The top and bottom 2 are black.
On the inside portion towards the neck is a gear with 3 sections with a depression.
If optional Back Armor is present it shall give the impression of armor worn under the cloak.
Any Back armor shall be fully concealed by the cloak
Any Back armor shall not be exessively bulky
Level 2: The red and white circles on the center inset panel are illuminated.
Shoulder Armor
Two gloss-black rigid shoulder armour plates are present
Shoulder plates match visual reference
The shoulder plates have a raised rim around the edges
Shoulder plates are not identical
The right shoulder plate has additional raised detail not present on the left plate.
Gloves
Gloves are fingerless and made of a tight black mesh-like fabric
Rigid material plating covers the back of the hand and extends past the first knuckle of each finger with no plating on the thumb
Plating closely resembles the reference images
Raised ridges cover each first knuckle
Separate plates with a rectangular slot are present on each finger
Gauntlet cuffs extend past the wrist to approximately halfway along the forearm
Gauntlet cuffs are made of semi-rigid, ribbed material of soft black leather (or similar in appearance to leather) and matching that of the cummerbund
Ribs are a series of nested right angles beginning at the top of the forearm and branching off to each side of the wrist, with the first rib connecting to create a ‘T’ shape
Matching black piping is present at the end of the cuffs
Level 2: Valken / Matrix or Tippman Half Finger Tactical gloves of a matching model, or an exact copy, are used as a base
Comlinks
Rectangular, slightly curved commlink cuffs cover the wrist strap of each glove, with details matching the reference image
Both commlinks are identical with the exception that the left features a Blue central raised circle, while the right is rotated 180° and features a Red central raised circle
Comlinks are secured with a webbing strap at the wrist
Boots
Boots are knee-high and made from black leather or leather-like material
Boots are not tightly fitted to the calf
Heels are approximately 1.5 inches (~3.81cm) in height
Straps and boot detailing closely resemble the reference images
There is an internal central tongue panel which raises from behind the first strap to the top of each boot behind two flanking panels
Two slightly shorter panels close over the central panel and have a gap of approximately 0.5-1 inch (~2.54 cm) revealing the central panel
There are thick straps which connect the side panels across the top of the center tongue panel
Straps are approximately 1” thick and are evenly spaced starting approximately half an inch (~1.27 cm) from the top of the flanking panels and ending on the top of the foot
Level 2: Boots zip up on the inner part of the boot shaft
Optional Accessories
Belt
If a belt is worn, it is approximate 1.25" wide, made of black leather or leather like material, and worn underneath the cummerbund.
Belt is not visible unless holster is present.
Level 2: Belt is present.
Blaster
Scratch built or high-end prop replica based on a Walther P38
If a blaster is present, the holster is required
Level 2: Grips are smooth
Holster
Holster is black in color and made of leather or a leather-like material
Wet-formed/shaped to that of the blaster
A retaining strap approximately 0.5 inches (1.27cm) in width is present
Strap features a silver snap to secure weapon
Lower edge of the holster should extend to approximately the middle of the costumer’s thigh in a Drop Holster configuration.
Holster hangs from the belt which is pulled down slightly from under the cummerbund
Dark Saber
The Dark Saber should be a scratch made, or high end replica, in the Mandalorian style (oval), not the Clone Wars style (rectangular)
Dark saber body should be approximately 11” long and based in a gloss black finish
The cross section shall be oval in shape
There are 4 vents on each side near the emitter
There are 8 raised rings at the bottom
Should have 2 raised rectangles on the hilt similar in pattern to the cummerbund
Emitter should have an angle and should have an up-swept guard towards emitter
Level 2: The Dark Saber should be capable of being belt worn with the emitter facing upwards (detachable blade or no blade)
Should be a 1:1 scale of the Saber used in the show
Level 3: The Dark Saber raised detail on the hilt is rubberized
SCREEN REFERENCES: https://imgur.com/a/ZV6AlJy
TOY REFERENCES: https://imgur.com/a/uvwTwwI
STILL TO DO:
- Clean up Imperial / Metric measurement conversions (Note: This will be done directly with the LMOs as the final text is worked out with them)
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