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    Transport Security Officer

    in CRL Updates

    Posted

    I think this is something that might be worth updating for Imperator / L3 if we have an agreement on the buckle measurement.

     

    What does everyone think? I have seen images of buckles of various sizes have been utilized by this costume, and this might get us closer to screen accuracy. 

     

    I'd love to hear from other people who have done research into and/or built this costume!

    Transport Security Officer

    in CRL Updates

    Posted

    I was reached out to this week by a member who recommended making an update to the Transport Security CRL, I figured I would start a new thread here to gather the group's input. 

     

    The verbiage in question is the following: 

     

    "The leather band features two rectangular metal buckles on both sides"

     

    The recommendation is to add dimensions to the buckles for further screen accuracy. The suggestion is to update the language to include the possible measurement - approx. 1 x 2 cm. Here's the reference photo she provided (lower image), as well as the hat she made herself (upper image).

     

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    Finalizing CRL Proposal - Imperial Military Officer (Rebels)

    in New CRLs - Completed

    Posted

    5 hours ago, LindsayL said:

    Yeah no proof of lining, that can be optional since it’s hidden anyway, some may want it just for comfort. And yeah no seams on sleeves, will probably need one on the inner side of sleeve where it’s more hidden because I think it’s impossible to make a sleeve without a seam 

     

    Totally makes sense with the seam comment. Even though my philosophy is usually "if it's not in the text and looks accurate, go for it", let's make it explicit to make it easier for GMLs and applicants.

     

    For the Governor Pryce CRL, there is a lvl 2 requirement like the below. Maybe we do the same for level 2 of the tunic here?

     

    Sleeves contain one seam on the inner arm.

    Finalizing CRL Proposal - Imperial Military Officer (Rebels)

    in New CRLs - Completed

    Posted

    Alright! Let's lock it and move on. Let's now talk TUNIC!

     

    Let's start with the text below - 

     

    Tunic, Olive

    • Fabric is a medium weight Olive/Field grey colored suiting material matching the trousers (and hat, if present).
      • Cavalry Twill or a Gabardine style weave is most accurate.
      • The most accurate color is “Feldgrau", or “Field grey”, which is a greenish-gray color, close to Olive.
    • Tunic is double-breasted with a left over right closure on the tapered yoke.
      • Yoke comes up across the shoulder to the top shoulder seam.
    • The standing collar has square corners, is between 1.25" (31.8 mm) to 2" tall, and closes snugly.
      • The wearer's neck must not be visible between the closed collar edges.
      • A modesty panel behind the collar closure is recommended to help with this, but is not required.
      • Collar edges are closed together in front with two eye hooks.
    • There are code cylinder pockets on both outside panels of the jacket, from about half way between the top and bottom on the arm hole.
    • Tunic has long sleeves which are without decoration, cuffs or buttons.
    • Tunic is constructed with no top-stitching (stitches visible on the exterior surface of fabric).
    • Fasteners on the uniform should not be visible.
    • Uniform is to be pressed and free of a wrinkled appearance.

    OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):

    • A central seam runs down the back of the tunic, with no princess seams.

    Finalizing CRL Proposal - Imperial Military Officer (Rebels)

    in New CRLs - Completed

    Posted

    In that case, to keep this as ANIMATED as possible for now, and let's revisit the "should this be a separate CRL or v3" discussion once we have the texts all knocked out? We can then see how we feel.

     

    In the spirit of keeping this as ANIMATED as possible, I'd like to propose the following texts for the hat:

     

    Hat, Olive, Rebels-Style

    • Hat is OPTIONAL but only if a specific referenced licensed character’s typical uniform configuration is copied in full, and does not typically include a hat.
    • Fabric is a medium weight suiting material matching the pants and tunic if applicable.
    • Cavalry Twill or a Gabardine style weave is most accurate.
    • Base of the hat is conical, with a crown about 4 inches (101.6 mm) tall.
    • Front and rear “flaps” overlap on the sides, with the back flap over the front, and are about 4 inches (101.6 mm) high.
    • Front bill extends 3 inches down; there are no concentric stitches.
    • Imperial Code Disk is positioned in the center of the front vertical "flap.”

     

    OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):

    • Code Disk exactly matches Rebels style disk

     

    Thoughts?

    Finalizing CRL Proposal - Imperial Military Officer (Rebels)

    in New CRLs - Completed

    Posted

    That's a good point. 

     

    Hm speaking of which, before we get too far with this conversation ... a small but possibly worthwhile digression ...

     

    Instead of creating a "Rebels" officer CRL, what do we think about creating a third version for the newly created Imperial Military Officer?

     

    Here's the thinking - 

    • The Imperial Military Officer CRL was recently created to allow members to provide members with flexibility when creating costumes. We call out in the text that the CRL was intended for "Star Wars, Rogue One, Solo, The Mandalorian and Expanded Universe".
    • This Rebels Officer CRL occurs around the same time period in the universe, the difference being these are "animated" and not "real life". 
    • As it stands, a lot of our conversation is about leveraging almost the same language for the "Basic" level CRL, with level 2/3 being more animated.
    • We are not creating a "face character". 
    • SO, why not create just a "version 3" of the Imperial Military Officer CRL, with the third version focusing on Rebels style officer?

    This is exactly what was done for the Imperial Security Bureau Officer CRL (check out how different v1, v2, and v3 looks).

     

    For reference, these are the features that I think would make it into "v3", or the Rebels-style of the Imperial Military Officer - 

    • Tunic: One seam down the middle on the back
    • Hat: "Rebels-style" hat disk, no concentric circles on hat
    • Belt: "Rebels-style" belt disk, no grooves, 
    • Jodhpur: Pointed flares
    • Rank Bar: Animated (Rank bar is one strip with four rounded corners NOT two separate bars as with OT rank bars; tiles are opaque.)

    We had proceeded down the path of creating a separate Rebels Officer CRL since this was started years ago ... but now that we have the Imperial Military Officer CRL, maybe this is another option?

     

    What are your thoughts on this? @buckrogersbarker @kman @shadan

    Finalizing CRL Proposal - Imperial Military Officer (Rebels)

    in New CRLs - Completed

    Posted

    I'd love to see what everyone thinks.

     

    For what it's worth, the last time I dealt with a "variation" was when we were developing the Lt Sunber CRL (*cough* featuring yours truly *cough*)

    • We were developing a CRL for Lt Sunber. Most of the Sunber CRL relied on the Imperial Army Trooper as a starting point. 
    • There were discussions about Sunber's flightsuit, which has some slight variations when compared to the IAT flightsuit. The question that we were asking was, do we take Sunber's uniqueness and make them into lvl 2/3 requirements? So allow people to pass for Sunber using the IAT flightsuit, and only require for higher level approval?
    • The counter point to the above argument = the variations are what makes the character/CRL unique when compared to an IAT, so we decided to make the differences a requirement at basic.

    We are not dealing with a face character here for this Rebels variation of the Imperial Military Officer CRL, so maybe we can be looser with our basic requirement. Still though, I am curious where everyone thinks we should draw the line?

    Finalizing CRL Proposal - Imperial Military Officer (Rebels)

    in New CRLs - Completed

    Posted · Edited by Hoda

    SO, most of these texts are the same as the "Imperial Military Officer (Non-Saga)" hat.

     

    No issues there. I think we be consistent as much as we can here with officers of the same era.

     

    That being said, there are two items on here that are what make this a unique "Rebels" CRL - do we want to make them a level one requirement? Instead of optional level 2/3 requirements?

     

    1. "Decorated with 5, 6 or 7 concentric stitches" - none of the images I can find actually shows the concentric stitches.

     

    2. "Rebel Style Disk" - in the tentative code disk description here, we have the Rebels style disk as lvl 2/3 requirement. It's what makes the Rebels officer unique no?

     

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    @LindsayL what are your thoughts on this? I am sure it came up during your construction.

    Finalizing CRL Proposal - Imperial Military Officer (Rebels)

    in New CRLs - Completed

    Posted

    OK! "Hair and appearance", locked. 

     

    Let us move on to the hat! Here are some text to get us started. These are some text that @kman and @LindsayL got started with. 

     

    Hat, Olive, Rebels-Style

    • Hat is OPTIONAL but only if a specific referenced licensed character’s typical uniform configuration is copied in full, and does not typically include a hat.
    • Fabric is a medium weight suiting material matching the pants and tunic if applicable.
    • Cavalry Twill or a Gabardine style weave is most accurate.
    • Base of the hat is conical, with a crown about 4 inches (101.6 mm) tall.
    • Front and rear “flaps” overlap on the sides, with the back flap over the front, and are about 4 inches (101.6 mm) high.
    • Front bill extends 3 inches down, decorated with 5, 6 or 7 concentric stitches.
    • Imperial Code Disk is positioned in the center of the front vertical "flap.”

    OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):

    • Code disk has NO notch in it, on the outermost disk.

    OPTIONAL Level three certification (if applicable):

    • Code Disk exactly matches Rebels style disk. 

    Finalizing CRL Proposal - Imperial Military Officer (Rebels)

    in New CRLs - Completed

    Posted

    And here we go! Let's start with "Hair and appearance".

     

    Here is the text from the Imperial Military Officer (Non-Saga) CRL. I think it applies just as equally.

     

    Hair and appearance

    • Applicants may style hair, facial hair, alter eye color, or use makeup, to emulate any character that wears this costume, provided the example is from a licensed LFL source.
    • When not emulating a specific character’s appearance, applicants are encouraged, but not required, to adhere to conservative hair stylings and grooming of a military nature.

    Finalizing CRL Proposal - Imperial Military Officer (Rebels)

    in New CRLs - Completed

    Posted

    We will be using this thread to finalize the CRL for Imperial Military Officer (Rebels).

     

    Also referred to as "Rebels Line Officer" and "Rebels Style Officer" on the forum, we are going to follow the current naming convention and refer to this as "Imperial Military Officer (Rebels)". This should also give us the flexibility to expand on the CRL if we'd like in the future. We will leverage existing verbiage from other CRLs where possible. 

     

    We will use this post as the main listing, and tackle each part one by one. (Green = complete, Yellow = WIP, and Red = yet to be finalized):

     

    • Hair and appearance
    • Hat, Olive, Rebels-Style
    • Tunic, Olive
    • Rank Bar
    • Code Cylinders
    • Belt
    • Jodhpur Trousers
    • Officer Boots
    • Gloves (Optional)
    • Belt boxes (Optional)
    • Colored contact lenses (Optional)
    • Holster (Optional)
    • Blaster (Optional)

     

    Also linking here to a few previous threads and useful info - we are consolidating them here, and will continue the conversation / discussion on THIS thread.

     

     

    ------------FINALIZED TEXT GOES BELOW THIS LINE------------

    Description: Imperial Military Officer (Rebels)
    Prefix: ID
    Detachment: Imperial Officer Corps
    Context: Star Wars: Rebels

    TBD

    Special Notes:

    • TBD

    --------------------------------------------

    Hair and appearance

    • Applicants may style hair, facial hair, alter eye color, or use makeup, to emulate any character that wears this costume, provided the example is from a licensed LFL source.
    • When not emulating a specific character’s appearance, applicants are encouraged, but not required, to adhere to conservative hair stylings and grooming of a military nature.

     

    Hat, Olive, Rebels-Style

    • Hat is OPTIONAL but only if a specific referenced licensed character’s typical uniform configuration is copied in full, and does not typically include a hat.
    • Fabric is a medium weight suiting material matching the pants and tunic if applicable.
    • Base of the hat is conical, with a crown about 4 inches (101.6 mm) tall.
    • Front and rear “flaps” overlap on the sides, with the back flap over the front, and are about 4 inches (101.6 mm) high.
    • Front bill extends 3 inches down; there are no concentric stitches.
    • Imperial Code Disk is positioned in the center of the front vertical "flap.”
    • Code Disk exactly matches Rebels style disk

     

    Tunic, Olive

    • Fabric is a medium weight Olive/Field grey colored suiting material matching the trousers (and hat, if present).
    • Tunic is double-breasted with a left over right closure on the tapered yoke.
      • Yoke comes up across the shoulder to the top shoulder seam.
    • The standing collar has square corners, is between 1.25" (31.8 mm) to 2" tall, and closes snugly.
      • The wearer's neck must not be visible between the closed collar edges.
      • A modesty panel behind the collar closure is recommended to help with this, but is not required.
      • Collar edges are closed together in front with two eye hooks.
    • There are code cylinder pockets on both outside panels of the jacket, from about half way between the top and bottom on the arm hole.
    • A central seam runs down the back of the tunic, with no princess seams.
    • Tunic has long sleeves which are without decoration, cuffs or buttons.
    • Tunic is constructed with no top-stitching (stitches visible on the exterior surface of fabric).
    • Fasteners on the uniform should not be visible.
    • Uniform is to be pressed and free of a wrinkled appearance.

     

    OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):

    • Sleeve may contain one seam on the inner arm.

     

    Rank Bar

    • Worn on the left side of the tunic over the heart, aligned with the code cylinder pocket.
    • Rank consists of same-sized colored plastic tiles mounted on metal or metal looking bar.
    • Length and height are determined by chosen rank.

    • Each bar is approximately 1" (25.4 mm) height.

    • Rank bar corners are slightly rounded.

    • Rank tiles are translucent, rectangular, positioned side by side in a vertical orientation, and evenly spaced.

    • Color, quantity, and combinations of the tiles/bars are determined by rank, and are appropriate to uniform type/color as supported by licensed reference.

     

    OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):

    • For rank bars with two rows, the rank bar is one strip with four rounded corners NOT two separate bars as with OT rank bars; tiles are opaque.
    • Chosen rank to match a specific officer seen onscreen or other licensed media.

     

    Code Cylinders

    • Between 1 to 4 Code Cylinders per costume may be worn.

    • No more than 2 code cylinders per pocket.

    • Modified Silver "chalk holder" tube with a short clip and blue top.
    • Dosimeter Style: True Dosimeter with correct clip and Blue top.
    • Clip is silver in color.

     

    OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):

    • Must be Rebels style code cylinder with correct Rebels style clip and blue caps.
     

    Belt

    • The belt is constructed from a non-textured leather or a leather-like material.
    • Approximately 2" (50.8 mm) in width no more than approximately 3" (76.2 mm) wide.
    • There are no loops on the belt.
    • A single large snap or rivet is visible approximately 1" (25.4 mm) to the left of the buckle, snap can be raised to a semi conical shape.
    • The buckle is constructed from a horizontally brushed metal, or metal looking material.
    • Buckle has a raised metal code disk.
    • Code Disk exactly matches Rebels style disk

     

     

    Jodhpur Trousers

    • Fabric is a medium weight suiting material exactly matching the tunic.
    • Trousers are flared riding breeches, with semi-stiff flares to the hip/thigh area.
      • Breeches are worn with boots.
      • Breeches are neatly pressed or ironed without creases.
    • Pockets are acceptable, although must not be visible with the tunic on.

     

    OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):

    • The flares on the jodhpurs mimic the shape of Rebels officer’s flares

    Purchasing a complete costume

    in Costume Questions - Ask Here!

    Posted

    I would definitely recommend WampaWear!

    Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk

    Agreed! If speed is of the essence, off-the-shelf WampaWear is probably the quickest.

    https://wampawear.com/product-category/uniform/

    You can get hat, tunic, jodphurs, belt, all from the same place.

    You are going to need to get riding boots, rank bars, and code cyclinders though, don't think WW has those. Maybe take a look at this list to see if there are vendors easily accessible to you https://www.imperialofficer.com/forum/index.php?/topic/1817-ioc-costume-resource-list/

    Also, have you made contacts with the Israel Outpost? There might be officers there who can point you to easy resources. https://m.facebook.com/102234044469886/

    Sith Eternal Officer

    in New CRLs - Completed

    Posted

    3 minutes ago, Thxboy said:

    I won’t speak for the LMO team but I do have my own experience which might shed light on why that verbiage was used. When I was mid-stream trying to create a Bossk this issue came up. We had zero reference for the back of his costume and since it had many modifications to an original Windak high altitude suit (especially in the back) it was quite the conundrum. I worked with the DL, GML and the LMO on presenting all the available reference material I could, paired with toys and animation reference to help build my case for approving the costume. We all agreed that the “indirect reference” was enough to give it a pass and they did.
    It wasn’t easy but we all had the same goal in mind. How to make it work but not just “guess”.

    Eric happened to be one of the LMO’s I consulted with on this.

     

    Thank you for the context!

    Sith Eternal Officer

    in New CRLs - Completed

    Posted

    Hi, bargain basement SWAT team Lt. Sunber here.

     

    For what it's worth, under the "Character Approval" in the "CRL and New Costume Survival Guide", it states:

     

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    Ideally, clear full body front/back/side reference should be available, but can be examined on a case by case basis. 

    • The way it's written, it sure sounds like some leeways can be given. A full back reference is not required as some have stated on this thread.
    • Legion costumes have had a track record of getting updated over the years as more reference materials emerge.
    • A "complete ensemble" costume and CRL has been developed closely following available reference images.

    Just my two cents - when there are conflicting opinions I like to draw people back to the original text (to take feelings and assumptions out of the equation).

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