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Whitmers updated his pants and added L2 zippers to his boots, so updated photos have been added to the OP and supplied to the LMOs.
 
Things are looking good for this CRL.

This CRL has been submitted to the LMOs for approval.

I updated the Dark Saber text in the OP to the following: (also tweaked the photo to correct some lighting discrepancies between the two views)
 

 
The Dark Saber should be a scratch made, or high end replica, in the Mandalorian style (oval), not the Clone Wars style (rectangular) Dark saber body should be approximately 11” long and based in a gloss black finish The cross section shall be oval in shape There are 4 vents on each side near the emitter There are 8 raised rings at the bottom Should have 2 raised rectangles on the hilt similar in pattern to the cummerbund Emitter should have an angle and should have an up-swept guard towards emitter
  Level 2: The Dark Saber should be capable of being belt worn with the emitter facing upwards (detachable blade or no blade) Should be a 1:1 scale of the Saber used in the show
  Level 3: The Dark Saber raised detail on the hilt is rubberized  
 

I agree the Dark Saber line needs tweaking.  That wasn't my edit, but confess I didn't double-check it at the time.  I'll talk to the guilty party and clean that up.
 
Here's the money shot for the leather inner thigh reinforcement patches:
 

 
You can see pretty clearly that it comes up to a [slightly rounded] point, and only about 1/2-3/4 up the thigh, not all the way to the crotch.

I'm on it.

I'm on it.

@whitmers This work needs to proceed regardless.  @kman will work with @Hoda and @shadan to get the text of the CRL right.  They should have access to the document you provided them.  Make sure that decisions are kept here and in the open so people can review them.  We need to fish or cut bait with getting this text finished.  I'll do what I can to assist with it.

@buckrogersbarker PM sent.

OK. I've been following and I appreciate the update. Hopefully the updated google doc that I send to Kman helped. I tried to clean it up a bit.

Hi folks.
 
The LMO received a request from IOC to include Moff Gideon Season 1 in the 501st roster of costumes. 
 
If it passes our LMO poll in 7 days time we'll be back here to help with the CRL.
 
Thanks for your patience,
 
-Eric

Bob,
 
Give me a day or two to do some reading on these costumes and then I'll circle the LMO wagons. I'll let you know the day we start a vote so IOC may have the 7 day count down.
 
Many thanks,
 
-Eric
 

I apologize for the delay.  We are working on the CRL now and want to have a good draft in the next week or two.  We are also having the LMOs come in and take a look at the references to see if there is a clear path for this completion.  We appreciate your patience.

Unfortunately the Legion handled the TROS premiere directly.  Not a single member of SoCal garrison's command staff was able to attend.  We didn't even get a list of locals who were attending.
 
We're going to try to find people who attended, however, in the Legion at large, and see any private photos may have turned up that happened to capture the back of this uniform... if it indeed turns out it was actually out and about.  I've seen quite a few photos from the premiere, though, and I feel like I would have remembered seeing this one out there.  But hopefully we'll be surprised.

The trim should be grey level 1
The cape should be shaped to go around the shoulders and the pauldrons in a rigid line
 
Level 2:  The trim is black with a white/grey hexagonal pattern with a black circle in the center. " 

 
I think after we talked about this, we decided that the light blew out the coloring on the trim. It should be all hex, but not sure if you want a level 1vs level 2 for that.
 
I second Hask on the red piping for the leg. Took us forever to find it haha
 
 
 

I pinged Gus about the Moff Gideon CRL as he was my original build partner before he decided to focus on Fett, he said he didn't have anything else to add.
It probably would be good to standardize the measures to either metric or imperial standard. I had this weird kludge pulling in information from different sources and locations.
 
Also raised rectangular sections of the darksaber should be gunmetal, with the gloss black base.
 
 
 

The trim should be grey level 1
The cape should be shaped to go around the shoulders and the pauldrons in a rigid line
 
Level 2:  The trim is black with a white/grey hexagonal pattern with a black circle in the center. " 

 
I think after we talked about this, we decided that the light blew out the coloring on the trim. It should be all hex, but not sure if you want a level 1vs level 2 for that.
 
I second Hask on the red piping for the leg. Took us forever to find it haha
 
 
 

This thread will be where we work on developing the language for the CRL for this new-to-the-Legion costume, trailblazed by @whitmers.  Here is his WIP thread:
 
 
This placeholder thread will start work on the language to be submitted to the Legion for the CRL and this initial post will be updated and revised as decisions are made and we narrow in on final wording.
 

 
 
Moff Gideon CRL
 
Description: Moff Gideon
Prefix: ID
Detachment: Imperial Officer Corps
Context: The Mandalorian, Season 1
Moff Gideon served as an officer in the Imperial Security Bureau of the Galactic Empire and participated in the Great Purge of the Mandalorians during the Imperial Era. In the aftermath of the fall of Mandalore, Gideon came into possession of the Darksaber, and has been pursuing the capture and study of the alien creature Grogu, as a means to further his ambitions as a leader of a remnant of the Empire.  He is imposing and ruthless, willing to kill fellow Imperials to achieve his goals, as shown by his non-hesitation in killing over a dozen stormtroopers when he first arrived on Nevarro and killing an officer for interrupting him. He is an adept tactician and skilled at both psychological warfare and personal combat. 
 
Hair and facial appearance
Hair is natural, short and well-groomed Costumer is clean-shaven A thin, neat mustache, may be present  
Level 2: A thin, neat mustache, natural in appearance, is present Hair matches very closely to that of Gian Carlo Esposito in The Mandalorian, S1.  

 
Tunic
Tunic is made of black suiting material, gabardine or twill weave is most appropriate A mandarin-style collar is present Tunic and collar both fasten at the rear Sleeves are long, and without decoration, cuffs or buttons A single outer seam exists with red piping extending from shoulder to cuff There are two vertical seams intersecting the front of the tunic from the top of the shoulders to the waist At the waist there is a seam running the entire circumference of the tunic From the waist down the fabric is quilted around the waist Level with the left and right vertical seams, the quilted section is divided into panels approximately 1.5 inches wide A leather or leather-like trim runs vertically down the leading edge of the costumer’s right quilted section, around the entire lower edge of the tunic and back up the right hip Tunic is constructed with no top-stitching (no stitching to to be visible on the exterior surface of fabric)  

 
Cloak
Cloak is black and extends down from the shoulders to approximately just above ankle height Cloak is made from heavier coat-weight fabric with a slight nap; melton is most appropriate The cloak is attached via hidden means Top edge of cloak follows along the top of the shoulder lines and the base of the neck Cut with an oval-shaped hem, not a straight edge parallel to the ground: The back center is noticeably lower to the ground than the front edges. A red lining is present and is not sewn in at the bottom Trim is present which extends approximately 1” on the outside leading edge, and 1.5 to 2 inches along the inside leading edge of the cloak, including both sides and the top edge over the back of the shoulders Trim is grey, or black when a suitable patterned overlay is applied which gives the trim the appearance of grey If an overlay is applied it will be a white/grey hexagonal outline pattern  Red piping intersects the trim and the main bulk of cloak The red piping color matches that used on the tunic and jodphurs  
Level 2:  The trim is black with a white/grey hexagonal overlay applied, giving the trim the appearance of grey Five to Six evenly spaced pleats are present, centered at the back of the neck, where the cape fabric meets the trim  
 

 
Jodphur Trousers
Jodhpurs are made of a black suiting material matching the tunic A black leather or leather like panel is present on the inside of each leg Lower edge of panel begins inside the area covered by the boots, or extends to the leg openings Red piping matching the tunic sleeves extends from the hip to under the boot on the outside edge of the each leg
  Level 2: Panel tapers to a rounded point from the lower leg, where half the leg is covered, upwards to end approximately midway up the inner thigh   

 
Cummerbund / Sash
Cummerbund is worn around the waist and is made of soft black leather (or similar in appearance to leather) and matching that of the gauntlet cuffs Nine semi-rigid ribs matching that of the cuffs are present Ribs are a series of fourteen nested right angles beginning at the center and branching off to the left and right, with the first rib connecting to create an inverted ‘T’ shape as the 15th vertical The nested right angles are repeated on the back of the cummerbund Red piping is present along the upper and lower edges of the cummerbund, matching the red piping of the tunic, jodphurs and cloak A silver medallion measuring approximately 1.5” across, matching the reference images, is affixed centrally to the front of the cummerbund Medallion consists of a raised center circle in the center with a raised edging Two small circular holes are on either side laterally of the raised center  
Level 2:  Medallion will have slight weathering.  

Armor
Note : All references of Right & Left are from the viewer’s point-of-view. Armor consists of the chest and optional back piece; armor and greeblies details match visual references. Accurate shape/design to front of chest. The sides of the chestplate are gloss black. The armor curves around the sides. The chestplate has a satin black inverted trapezoid-shaped top panel (separate or attached) at the center top portion of the glossy black main chest armor. The top panel terminates at the center of the chest armor, with an additional thin trapezoidal inset. The top panel of the chest plate contains two identical depressions at the top center. At the front center, below the top panel, a satin black center inset panel is moulded in, which includes these details: Two recessed circular buttons are present on the upper left corner of the section, with red on the left and white on the right. In the bottom right of the inset panel there is an additional inset portion, which holds two grey rectangular pieces, flanking a slightly longer and wider white rectangular piece. Tie-Pilot styled ribbed shoulder bridges connect the Chest Armor and Back armor (if present), disappearing under the cape. Attached to the straps is a flat black rectangular greeblie with slightly curved sides. It is about ¼ inch (.6mm) wider than the strap on either side and about 3 ¾ inches (9.5cm) by 2 ¼ inches (5.7cm) long. The rectangular strap greeblie has 4 rectangular moulded buttons, each 1 inch by ⅝ inch (2.5cm by 1.6 cm). The center buttons are red. The top and bottom buttons are black. On the inside portion towards the neck is a rectangular detail with a center depression.  There is a detailed bracket where the chest armor connects with the shoulder straps, which has a central circle with a raised circular section on 2 prongs. There are two oval holes near the front edges with a circular hole central between them. The strap greeblies connect to the chest plate at brackets  There is a detailed rectangular greeblie on top of the shoulder strap. There are 4 rectangles, each 1 inch by ⅝ inch (2.5cm by 1.6 cm). The center 2 are red. The top and bottom 2 are black.  On the inside portion towards the neck is a gear with 3 sections with a depression. If optional Back Armor is present it shall give the impression of armor worn under the cloak. Any Back armor shall be fully concealed by the cloak Any Back armor shall not be exessively bulky
  Level 2: The red and white circles on the center inset panel are illuminated.  

 
Shoulder Armor
Two gloss-black rigid shoulder armour plates are present Shoulder plates match visual reference The shoulder plates have a raised rim around the edges Shoulder plates are not identical The right shoulder plate has additional raised detail not present on the left plate.  

 
Gloves
Gloves are fingerless and made of a tight black mesh-like fabric Rigid material plating covers the back of the hand and extends past the first knuckle of each finger with no plating on the thumb Plating closely resembles the reference images Raised ridges cover each first knuckle Separate plates with a rectangular slot are present on each finger Gauntlet cuffs extend past the wrist to approximately halfway along the forearm Gauntlet cuffs are made of semi-rigid, ribbed material of soft black leather (or similar in appearance to leather) and matching that of the cummerbund Ribs are a series of nested right angles beginning at the top of the forearm and branching off to each side of the wrist, with the first rib connecting to create a ‘T’ shape Matching black piping is present at the end of the cuffs
  Level 2: Valken / Matrix or Tippman Half Finger Tactical gloves of a matching model, or an exact copy, are used as a base  

 
Comlinks
Rectangular, slightly curved commlink cuffs cover the wrist strap of each glove, with details matching the reference image Both commlinks are identical with the exception that the left features a Blue central raised circle, while the right is rotated 180° and features a Red central raised circle Comlinks are secured with a webbing strap at the wrist  

 
Boots
Boots are knee-high and made from black leather or leather-like material Boots are not tightly fitted to the calf Heels are approximately 1.5 inches (~3.81cm) in height Straps and boot detailing closely resemble the reference images There is an internal central tongue panel which raises from behind the first strap to the top of each boot behind two flanking panels Two slightly shorter panels close over the central panel and have a gap of approximately 0.5-1 inch (~2.54 cm) revealing the central panel There are thick straps which connect the side panels across the top of the center tongue panel  Straps are approximately 1” thick and are evenly spaced starting approximately half an inch (~1.27 cm) from the top of the flanking panels and ending on the top of the foot
  Level 2: Boots zip up on the inner part of the boot shaft  
Optional Accessories
 
Belt
If a belt is worn, it is approximate 1.25" wide, made of black leather or leather like material, and worn underneath the cummerbund. Belt is not visible unless holster is present.
  Level 2: Belt is present.  

 
Blaster
Scratch built or high-end prop replica based on a Walther P38 If a blaster is present, the holster is required
  Level 2: Grips are smooth  

 
Holster
Holster is black in color and made of leather or a leather-like material Wet-formed/shaped to that of the blaster A retaining strap approximately 0.5 inches (1.27cm) in width is present Strap features a silver snap to secure weapon Lower edge of the holster should extend to approximately the middle of the costumer’s thigh in a Drop Holster configuration. Holster hangs from the belt which is pulled down slightly from under the cummerbund  

 
Dark Saber
The Dark Saber should be a scratch made, or high end replica, in the Mandalorian style (oval), not the Clone Wars style (rectangular) Dark saber body should be approximately 11” long and based in a gloss black finish The cross section shall be oval in shape There are 4 vents on each side near the emitter There are 8 raised rings at the bottom Should have 2 raised rectangles on the hilt similar in pattern to the cummerbund Emitter should have an angle and should have an up-swept guard towards emitter
  Level 2: The Dark Saber should be capable of being belt worn with the emitter facing upwards (detachable blade or no blade) Should be a 1:1 scale of the Saber used in the show
  Level 3: The Dark Saber raised detail on the hilt is rubberized  
 
SCREEN REFERENCES: https://imgur.com/a/ZV6AlJy
 
TOY REFERENCES: https://imgur.com/a/uvwTwwI
 
STILL TO DO:
- Clean up Imperial / Metric measurement conversions (Note: This will be done directly with the LMOs as the final text is worked out with them)

Trousers also have the red stripes on outside of each leg