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Here comes my Imperial Gala Officer's Uniform (Jeyhold Beehaz) Work-in-Progress v1.5
Still need to make a few adjustments (higher collar, thicker epaulettes, etc.) but I think it's going really, really well and starting to look like the one from the show. I even got to troop in it for a few hours this weekend to show it off, test it's practicality and ask some constructive criticism as to help me make it the best possible creation for the CRLs and by extension all of us officers here in the IOC.
What do you guys think so far? I think it's pretty neat and helps with cold weather.
P.S. I was making the pics from my phone in the office and forgot to take off my shirt and close the collar so sorry for that. In a couple of weeks (or somewhat sooner I hope) it should be fully ready with the cape and the ceremonial belt (as soon as they're made) and then we can start working on introducing the CRLs for Version One (Standard belt and cap with no cape) and also Version Two (Ceremonial Belt with cape and cap with black, leather visor).
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17 hours ago, buckrogersbarker said:
@Sebastian I am sympathetic but we have to take that to the LMOs. They are the arbiter of if this uniform is generic or if it is a face character. Now I believe that EVERY uniform SHOULD have the option of being generic. But they have the final say.
What I mentioned above has been the traditional threshold of what is generic and what is a face character.
I will try to get them engaged here.
Great work by the way.Thank you very much, both for the involvement here in this case and for understanding the situation most of all, sir. Putting the matter forward to Legion Command (the LMO in particular) for deep consideration is everything I can ask for and of course I will do my best to adhere to the decision made by the command. That being said I do believe it would be the best option to move forward. Once again thank you very much for your understanding, sir.
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And here are a couple of work in progress photos of how the uniform is getting along.
In a couple of days I should have more photos of the Version One (Without the cape and ceremonial belts) and the cape should be not a long way after that (possibly a week or two).
What are your thoughts, I think it's coming along nicely?
Of course it's just getting started off the ground, so there are a lot of things to correct, add and modify but overall I think I'm off to a good start, don't you think?
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Once again I would like to raise the matter of creating a non face-character version of the CRL for the Imperial Officer's Gala Uniform for all the reasons that I myself and others have mentioned above many times.
Moreover, I would like to raise an issue that making this costume a face-character only will not only mean that anyone not possessing the "actor's looks" will be unable to make the costume accurately but moreover, that people like me for example may not be able to make (and more importantly troop in) this particular costume. Please hear me out on this, because I really don't like to talk about it too much, but here I feel like I have no other choices left because of your continuing commitment to disallowing this to be a non face-character costume. I am a person afflicted since a couple of years with an aggressive form of psoriasis which is a skin disease causing my skin to go very dry very fast, then it breaks and bleeds causing pain, discomfort and obviously wearing a person down psychically.
The reason that I'm mentioning this after all theese years is because I simply can not grow a lasting beard (my chin get's attacked by the disease then) and the same goes for fake beards or wigs and the skin of my head. Now I know it's not a super "popular" disease but many people have problems that restrict them from having such items to alter their appearance, and if you make a decision to exclude a non-character version of this uniform it will for most of us mean the way is shut to making this fabulous uniform for ourselves.
Moreover, to answer the doubts surrounding the fact that there's only one officer we saw wearing it up till now - first of all this may as well be the last time we see it, as for the second and third - the key factor in this scenario is the SITUATION in which the officer (Jayhold Beehaz) sports this uniform and it is a planet-wide celebration of a celestial event known as "The Eye" which obviously and without a shred of doubt in my mind (and soo many others) means this uniform is a galaxy-wide Ceremonial/Gala uniform for the Imperial Officer Corps military during special festivities and that if the event wasn't taking place then and there Beehaz would most likely be wearing a standard olive Imperial Officer's Uniform.
As such I would like to once again ask for the matter to be revisited. I am already in the process of making this uniform either way, but I would like to not have to pay with days of agony from breaking skin for a couple of hours of trooping during events caused by fake beards, wigs, etc. as I know many others would love to as well.
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On 11/5/2022 at 6:28 PM, Skywise said:
I want one! Like the Krennic style code disc on the “pommel.”
You're definitely not the only one!
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4 hours ago, ZT1736 said:
I just wanted to confirm something here. I may’ve heard mention of there being a separate “Imperial Officers Gala Uniform” CRL where it’s basically the uniform, but you don’t have to portray the commandant himself. Is that still gonna happen? By the Force, if it does, that WILL be the next impression I get approved.
Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkI am definitely going to push for that so that anyone even without the characteristics of the actor and of course our lovely female troopers will have no problem recreating this uniform. Within a couple of days I am going to put out a new CRL proposal for that very uniform in a non face-character version. It will of course be prette much the very same CRL just without the actor's appearance and with different possible rank bars.
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4 minutes ago, Sebastian said:
@Tutanchseth For the collar it is definetly the normal one we have on line officers. Because it's black it's a little hard to notice but here you can easily see (look for the "COLLAR CLOSE-UP" pic):
Sebastian's IOC "Imperial Officer's Gala Uniform" reference album
Here you can see the collar closes in the middle of the front like with the standard Olive Darb.
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@Tutanchseth For the collar it is definetly the normal one we have on line officers. Because it's black it's a little hard to notice but here you can easily see (look for the "COLLAR CLOSE-UP" pic):
Sebastian's IOC "Imperial Officer's Gala Uniform" reference album
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7 hours ago, kman said:
That's a good point. This should be moved. @Sebastian do you have a preference for which subforum this should be moved to? I can think of a few that would work fine, but I'll let you make the call. (Else I'll move it whereever it seems to fit best, if I don't hear back)
I was thinking of this thread as a place where we can share ideas and eventual members can show off their own "swagger sticks" or share links/recommendations of good quality sellers and for anyone looking to get one to find out where he/she could get his/her own. And of course for the makers themselves to show off their work and potentially gather interested people.
As such I am unusre where it would be best to relocate it to and I will trust in your judgment of this matter here, Sir.
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29 minutes ago, Callista said:
@Sebastian here you can find it.
Oh right, I've seen that one, thought you're reffering to some other gallery. Sorry for confusion but I can't add those pics there as since I am not the "owner" of the album I think (or I'm just blind and can't see the damn button for it). But please feel free to download the pics from my gallery and add it to yours if you want (just remember to not change the resolutions as it will destroy the high quality and some uniform details might be lost).
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On 10/26/2022 at 4:41 PM, charlyselo said:
Is that an officer?
Where did you take this screen? I can't for the life of me find it in episodes 7 nor 8, I did find a couple of others though (seems they are dark blue and dark red uniforms) following the ISB and Jayhold's epaulettes and collar-pins scheme (though they have golden epaulettes and belts):
Perhaps some other non-military Imperial services? Perhaps the dark-blue are the Imperial Police Forces (it was mentioned that Meero was recruited from them)?
What would the red ones be then? Imperial Military Intelligence rocking itself back to canon?
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11 minutes ago, Callista said:
Maybe they can be added to the gallery we have already here in the forum for Beehaz
I admit I must have missed the gallery then, if you could point me in the right direction (preferably a link to the gallery, as since I cannot find the topic) I will be more than happy to add my screens as contribution towards a better, more detailed look of the uniform, which should make our and hopefully futher candidates work much easier, not to mention the "CRL team"
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Okay here's the link to the album with the HQ 4K screens I've took today (I am pretty sure that all details should be visible on these) for your convenience:
Sebastian's IOC "Imperial Officer's Gala Uniform" reference album
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Just in case: you can click on the pics and they should extend to their full size for easier and more detailed inspection.
Also I think I'm gonna start a "Imperial Military Officer Gala Uniform" topic for another (non face-character) CRL so that I don't mess your topic with too many pics too.
Gonna add a link here later on to the second topic and to the image gallery as soon as it's all up there for all who's interested.
Once again great to be working with someone on this! Two pairs of eyes are always better than one aren't they?
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Ceremonial belt and snaps close-up:
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The cape's collar also seems more reminiscent of the original ANH Staff Officer with closure on the right side. It also seems that the entire top of the cape itself is kind of "under" a somewhat thicker part which brings old expanded universe Moffs top armor of the Fell Empire to mind (like High Moff Morlish Veed). Anyway it seems that the entire cape is sewn with it pernamently and only opens on the right side (henceforth the right-side cape collar closure).
There may be more details once I get to closely study the screens and also throw them in here for everyone.
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3 hours ago, Callista said:
The only detail which is missing, is a clear shot of the back of the cloak. There are two double seams running across the shoulder but I cant see if they stop on the other side of the shoulder and if there is a horizontal seam or if theyre running down.
Does anyone have any suggestions, maybe in comparison to other cloaks?Also the cape is divided vertically in the middle (not sure about the wording here) on the back which you'll also see in a moment when I add the images somewhere so that they can be posted here through url's.
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3 hours ago, Callista said:
The only detail which is missing, is a clear shot of the back of the cloak. There are two double seams running across the shoulder but I cant see if they stop on the other side of the shoulder and if there is a horizontal seam or if theyre running down.
Does anyone have any suggestions, maybe in comparison to other cloaks?I just went through the episode again in 4k and made a couple of screens that should shed a lot of light on it.
It seems that there is actually only one seam on the black part of the arm (the one on the back of it).
I've also made a couple of measurments with in-programme ruler as to find out the optimal lenght of the black arm parts and it seems that it's about a quarter (1/4=25%) of the user's arm length from the wrist to the top.
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Maybe just one question yet - how did you get the measures (for example the lenght of the arm's "black part" is 20cm)? Did you took the actors dimensions and compared that to what we see on-screen? If so it would be great if you could post your calculations here too, but I'm not overly enthusiastic about setting those "in stone" for the CRLs, instead I think a better solution might be to give a percentage or something similar that would allow for some degree of customisation to a specific person's height, arms lenght, etc. instead of giving a set amount. But that's just an idea, I would like to know what do others think about it?
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13 hours ago, Callista said:
CRL draft done from my side, based on all the screenshots we have.
Please crosscheck if I missed something or if wording needs to be changed.
I looked it over again and I am pretty sure you've basically nailed it as for a face-character version. Really nice job!
Now all the rest is in the hands of our higher-ups to check if it's a "go" I guess.
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15 hours ago, Callista said:
Just watched the episode again and I’m not sure about the color of the uniform anymore.
When he is standing outside next to an officer with a Trenchcoat which is definitely olive Jayholds uniform looks grey (minute 17).
Update: it seems to be Feldgrau, probably Feldgrau No. 2 RAL 7009
Yeah I belive it's the usual Feldgrau and it might simply look greyish because of the surroundings and for the trench coat of the other officers I belive they're actually more green than olive-gray from what I've seen on my screen. But you can clearly see it's the same color as other (standard) officer uniforms when he's inside talking with the Colonel and the traitor
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6 minutes ago, Callista said:
Yes I know that and that’s the point because my husband looks like Jayhold.
All of that will be added soon to my first post.Looking forward to it, I might post a few pics and updates with my progress as well when I get the chance to take care of it.
In the meantime once again very happy to see someone else interested in making this "gala" uniform and creating a CRL for it.
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3 minutes ago, Callista said:
Thanks for your suggestions so far. My husband plans to do exactly Jayhold Beehaz and not a random officer so I would not leave something like the rank as a level 3.
As written above it’s a draft and also mentioned that there is help needed for the details.
The CRL so far is copied and combined from different officer uniforms and can be changed everywhere I just need the right input or need more time for research which I hadn’t today when starting it.I see, perhaps it would also be a good idea to make actually 2 CRLs for this costume then - one as a "standard" gala/dress/ceremonial uniform which could have other rank bars and non-character traits like other hair & no facial hair and of other gender than Beehaz himself.
Whereas the face character of Jayhold Beehaz, would need to be made with requirements to exactly fit how the character looks on-screen, so beard and gray hair, for the "face character" CRL like with Tarkin, Thrawn, etc.
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For the CRL draft I would suggest placing the particular rank he wears as a level three certification requirement as with the Line Officer and other officer CRLs.
Moreover I am unsure whether the black visor of his "ceremonial" hat is acctually a fabric, since it shines so much I am wondering if it could be actually made with leather...
And what did you mean with that:
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Collar edges close on the right side of the neck with two eye hooks.
- Collar closure edge aligns with the right shoulder seam.
I believe the collar closes on the front like with the standard Line officer version didn't see any closure on the sides from what I've seen on-screen.
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Collar edges close on the right side of the neck with two eye hooks.
CRL proposal Jayhold Beehaz Gala Uniform (Andor)
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Yes indeed I am planning on making it a little bit shorter (about 5 cm) so that it's around a "palm's length" below the end of my hands (Beehaz had about the same). As for the flair out of the tunic it's mostly my body shape (gained a few kilos during Covid unfortunate) and also the pant's kind of "push" them outwards, but I'm gonna be thinking about that yet. Besides, I believe once it'll be a tad shorter it'll fix on itself so to speak. Stay tuned for the next update