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And by the way, IG is a position, not an actual rank. Jeems was an Army CPT, (according to Glyn Dillon's rank chart he used for making up new characters for R1.) IG in the real world can be pretty much any officer in the rank of Colonel or below.  

It already exists.  It's Version 3 on the ISB CRL.  You have to click across the top tab to get to V3 and you'll see it's this.

It already exists.  It's Version 3 on the ISB CRL.  You have to click across the top tab to get to V3 and you'll see it's this.

I just made a post on Facebook a week ago so I'm just pasting it below for you.  Hope you enjoy!
 
03Jun2019 - If you're new to Star Wars books, and/or thought about picking up something to read, I'm just going to quickly list what I thought were the best to worst with regards to recent canon Adult and Young Adult books (No Legends).
 
No spoilers or even summary. Just my opinion. 10 point scale.
 
Currently Reading: Master and Apprentice
 
On Deck: Alphabet Squadron
 
Dark Disciple - 10/10
 
Lost Stars - 9/10
Thrawn - 9/10
 
Tarkin - 8/10
Bloodline - 8/10
Lords of the Sith - 8/10
Ashoka - 8/10
From a Certain Point of View - 8/10
Imperial Handbook [Reference Book] - 8/10
Thrawn Alliances - 8/10
 
A New Dawn - 7/10
Before the Awakening - 7/10
Catalyst - 7/10
Cobalt Squadron - 7/10
 
Battlefront 2: Inferno Squad - 6/10
Heir to the Jedi - 6/10
Canto Bight - 6/10
 
Phasma - 5/10
Last Shot - 5/10
 
Twilight Company - 3/10
Queen's Shadow - 3/10
 
Aftermath:Star Wars - 1/10

Concerning the Staff Officer from Episode VI at http://databank.501st.com/databank/Costuming:ID_imperial_officer_black we still have the "Context" referring to Episode IV, which is wrong and leads for a lot of new Officers to irritations concerning rankbars, codecylinders and belt boxes. 
 
Perhaps the LMO's/ @Hask have a look at it and set the context of the CRL from Episode IV to Episode VI since in Episode IV only the ANH-Staff-Officer (Fahrenheit 451-tunic) is seen, while the Officer in Episode VI, Rogue One, Solo and the EU/Legends wears the tunic with the classic "imperial" pattern.
 
Thank you very much 

Wow!  That's epic.  Congrats!

Good evening.
First I would like to thank @kevair464, @Hask, @Hux, and everyone else involved in getting the initial CRL off the ground. It was a lot of work - and I am standing on their shoulders with my proposal here. Thank you for allowing me the opportunity to weigh in on this with this write-up.
 
I would like to propose the following edits and additions for consideration:

1. That the name of the CRL be changed to read "Imperial Army Officer - Mimban" rather than "Officer - Mimban Lieutenant."
 
Reasoning: There are many more officers present on Mimban than just the Lieutenant. Many are seen in background shots, and there are two additional Imperial Army ranks that are shown on screen. Changing the title of the CRL would allow for more flexibility of choice and options for the membership.
 
2. That under "Trenchcoat" the faux fur collar only be required if the member is attempting to exactly replicate the look of Lieutenant Bolandin and the faux fur collar be moved to an optional item in all other circumstances. Additionally, that an option for the coat to be worn open with no belt (on the outside - naturally a belt would still be required at the waist of the tunic) be added. This will naturally require a tab, as a standard tunic will most certainly be required in that case.
 
Reasoning: There are several instances on screen that show Imperial Officers from both SOLO and Rogue One wearing the trench coat with no fur detail present on the collar. It appears that Lieutenant Bolandin is the only officer seen on screen wearing that particular accessory on his coat. In regards to the coat being worn open with no belt, again, there are multiple instances seen on screen both in SOLO and Rogue One where Imperial Officers are wearing the coat open without a belt.
 
3. That under "Rankbar" the additional ranks of Imperial Army Captain (3 red, 1 blue), and Imperial Army Major (3 red, 2 blue) be included as options.
Reasoning: The officer in the beginning of the Mimban battle scene has been positively identified as a Major (both in the canon novelization of SOLO, and in the movie itself during conversation.) In the scene where Han interrupts Beckett and Val plotting how they are going to steal an AT Hauler he confronts them and correctly surmises (as indicated by Val's reaction of "well now we have to shoot him") that Beckett and company are not Imperial Army, but rather wearing stolen uniforms and looking to steal equipment. The assertion that Beckett is wearing a genuine Imperial Army uniform is further proved when Beckett turns Han over to Lieutenant Bolandin in the next scene. The Lieutenant obviously doesn't recognize Beckett personally, but he recognizes the uniform and the rank as genuine. Finally, the origins of the armor that Beckett and Vall and Rio are wearing is explained in the canon novelization. A screen shot of the relevant passage is included, but my reading of the situation goes that the Korso character was not originally part of Beckett's gang, but rather a disgruntled Imperial military member looking for a ticket off Mimban. He got the uniforms for Beckett, Val, and Rio in exchange for joining the gang and passage off the planet. I feel that the evidence irrefutably supports the inclusion of both Captain and major as canon ranks for imperial Army Officers on Mimban.
 
4. That under "Code Cylinders" the text be amended to to only require code cylinders clipped to the collar of the trench coat if the member is attempting to exactly replicate the look of Lieutenant Bolandin. 
Reasoning: The screenshots of the Major, and from what I could make out - all the other background officers we are able to see the fronts of, do not show any code cylinders clipped to the collar of the trench coat. The Lieutenant appears to be, again, unique in this manner of display. For what it is worth, Beckett is not wearing any code cylinders with his uniform either, but there could be any number of reasons for that, and not necessarily indicative of the dead Captain not having any either.


All this being said, I would at the very least like the CRL to be amended in title, the option be granted to wear Lieutenant, Captain, or Major rank, and that the faux fur on the collar of the trench coat be optional unless one is attempting to specifically portray Lieutenant Bolandin. If none of the edits I propose, I would appreciate those concessions.

My overarching reasoning is thus: Beckett's armor and uniform is genuine, therefore there must have been an Imperial Army Captain on Mimban otherwise Beckett would not be wearing the armor. Likewise with the Major - may whatever entity he may have believed in have mercy on his soul. Additionally, there are a multitude of screenshots that indicate Lieutenant Bolandin may very well be alone in his particular fashion choices. There is overwhelming physical evidence that indicates the fur is not standard, even on Mimban.

As far as the other accessories, such as the sidearm, the belt box, and the Yugo ammo pouch, I feel like a case for those being standard equipment can be made - not withstanding that the Lieutenant is the only officer that is seen wearing them. Whether the Major is wearing those accessories under the trench coat is unclear due to lighting and his relative short time on screen before exploding. This can be explained by the fact that the Lieutenant is the only officer with sufficient screen time to warrant proper "kitting out" as all other background officers are either not seen with their fronts to the camera, or appear for such a short period of time and in such bad lighting that it wasn't worth giving them kit as only people like us would ever notice something like that - lol

The goggles as optional accessories, as currently written into the CRL, also make sense as a standard item, even though it is only Beckett that is seen wearing them. No other officer, the Major or any of the background ones that I could see, are wearing them. That said, the Troopers have a means of shielding their eyes from flying mud, it only makes sense that officers would have that too. Why the others don't have them could be for any number of reasons.

I submit for consideration the following screenshots:

Screenshot 1a/b - This image shows Beckett and Han back to back and offers a good view of the uniform that Beckett is wearing. Present is the seam that runs down the center outside of the sleeve, the distinctive collar, and the wide cuff. Its construction and look is consistent with those worn by other Imperial Officers on Mimban, including Lieutenant Bolandin and the Major, as well as other background officers in the trench scene. It is further consistent with those trench coats worn by Imperial Officers on Jedha, which have been confirmed as the same coats. Evidance from the canon novelization indicates that this armor is genuine.


 
Screenshot 2a/b - This image shows the Major from the opening scene. The image has been artificially lightened and is not of the best quality unfortunately. It is confirmed that he is a Major though both in the movie, as well as in the canon novelization. You will note that the trench coat is of the same variety as that worn by Lieutenant Bolandin, Beckett, and the background officers. Additionally note that both Beckett and the Major are wearing their coats open rather than belted. Evidence suggests that both were acceptable as the background officers present a mixed bag.



Screenshot 3a/b/c - These images show a few background officers, many with their backs turned, or their coats closed. Again the lighting and the resolution are not perfect, but I do not feel that we will ever get anything better unless further shots emerge in the Making of Solo book due out later this year. They all present the same caps as the Lieutenant, Beckett, and the Major, and aside from one who appears to indeed be wearing armor from the ghost of a rank bar protrusion, whether or not they are wearing armor I feel is irrelevant. There are already three solid examples to make the case that Imperial Army Officers on Mimban wore the chest armor over their uniform.




Screenshot 4 - This image is of Imperial Officers on Jedha from Rogue One. It is included to provide a good lighting shot of the Imperial Officer trench coat, as well as to provide an example of one being worn belted and one being worn without a belt.


I welcome any discussion on this proposal, as well as if anyone has the ability to scroll through the Blu-Ray and upload better screen grabs. Mine were taken from 1080 YouTube clips and I feel like they could be better. I have also not tried to doctor them - so if anyone is good at that and can make some of those hidden details pop I would appreciate it.

Thank you and I stand by to answer any questions!


 

That's funny, you think she'll get a whole year out of it.    Not at that age brother!

https://www.ebay.com/usr/dongjing2019
 
It looks like every outfit from CosplaySky is on here... just a lesser quality material.  Also, the belt that came with it is garbage.  But, for $65 and knowing she'll grow out of it in less than a year, it'll work!

I got one from Q's Prop Shop.  He's on these forums.  They have lights, sound, and are really, really awesome.  I'd recommend.

Credit to Matt Nelson for this

I can make you one in just a few days. I have a thread on here too.
TK-20421 , Cantina Security also owner of Intergalactic Supply.

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I got mine from Intergalactic Supply on Facebook (@CantinaSecurity here on the forum).

Sounds like it will be a really cool show. I just hope that they will eventually release it on DVD for all those of us who don't have Disney plus.

They are really working to update the CRL system.  It will be a long process, but I'm sure the end result will me most beneficial.
 

I know a while back a few folks were talking about possibly updating the grouping we have our CRLs in.  Since our list is only growing larger by the week, I thought I'd look at that old topic.  However, I wasn't able to find it... probably was within another thread somewhere.
 
Anyhow, I was wondering if it's a possibility?  What, if anything, came of that discussion?
 
I was thinking along the lines of:
 
Crew:
The non-officers folks.  Bridge, Mechanical, Scanning, upcoming things like that
Would keep the IC-Prefix
 
Individuals:
The would obviously be named people, Daala, Tarking, Kallus, Isard, etc
Could update to an II-Prefix
 
Officers:
These would be the generic groups of people, NCOs, Line, Staff, Admirals, etc...
Would keep the ID-Prefix
 
Security:
Navy / Fleet Troopers, ISB, Transport
IN-Prefix
 
By default, if it's a named person, they'd always go to the II or Individual Category.  Otherwise, they'd fall into the Officer, Crew, or Security dependent on their role.  
Just an idea.  Thoughts?

I know he's mentioned in a book, but do we have any actual reference pictures of him?  Maybe a comic or something? 
If not, I don't think it'd be possible except you could say you're him with the correct rank bar on a Line Officer uniform... but not sure much else without the reference pics.
 
And after a quick Google Image search, I found an image.  
Moff Panaka
Not sure why you couldn't get the ball rolling.  My only reservation would be I think we'd need a full body shot.  Would have to do some more digging.

I like the idea of this.  Have you considered maybe making it a "Crew" group... including Scanning Crew, Bridge Crew, and Mechanical Crew?  I think that would be a nice niche group that could be fun!  Just a thought.  Either way, I'm hoping to get my Scanning Crew approved soon.

Greetings to all,
 
Following up on the previous thread concerning the eventual creation of a dedicated ISC Group within the IOC and the recommendation that we should start logging our Scanning Crew troops, here goes...!
 
1. Wes Strong StormTrooper Throwdown, 21 October 2018, The Grey Goose, Hampton, VA
 

 
 
 
Don’t hesitate to chip in, scanners, log in and get your “You’ve been scanned by the ISC” tag!
 
 
 
 
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Since the Crew are considered "enlisted members", we could form a "EM Club". Military bases I remember going to always had one, where you could go and unwind (and have an adult beverage or two).

Thanks... just awaiting my Jack Boots... there somewhere between the US and Russia, lol.
 
If you do go the route of incorporating all the IOC "crews,"  it could be something like the IOC3 for Imperial Officer Corps Crew Company, or something like that.
The crew is so underrated... I mean, I know Stormtroopers get the fame of being the backbone of the Empire... but really, without the Crew(s), ships would be worthless

That could indeed be a possibility...

Good Luck with the approval!!!




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They were seen on the screen in ANH. You just have to watch the scene where Alderaan gets destroyed. I lightened up the last image. You can clearly see that they do not wear jackboots.
 

"see anything clearer" as in see anything different then what's been said/listed above?
Nope. But I might be blinded by the fact I want this costume to happen (it's a guarantee to get more IOC members!)
I'm ready to retake the photos for the green suit with a 6 red rank bar if we're ready to move forward.

Although the sceencaps aren't perfect, I think the only thing we really needed to confirm were the boots and the type of tunic used, correct?
 
From Dawn's screencaps, middle photo, we can see they're wearing Chelsea boots, so should be good there.
 
From Dawn's first photo we're able to see on the Staff Officer's right shoulder the tunic edge just lifts up a little, so there is confirmation of the tunic style worn.
 
We also know the belt boxes and belt remain the same from R1, and we can see them elsewhere.  And we can see that these dress pants don't have the flares.  Also, obviously, they aren't wearing a hat.  
 
Hence, I don' t think we're making a leap of faith or anything... I think we can actually make a pretty good case that we can account for the wardrobe parts being worn.
 
And I think we can also confirm that this Service Dress would be for both Line and Staff (and technically can make for ISB too since we already have it under the ISB as an approved outfit).