Dimentex

http://databank.501st.com/databank/Costuming:ID_imperial_officer_black
 

Simple answer, yes.  The Rank bars may be changed across the board at some future time, but for now they kept the same wording and referenced the same information as all other CRLs

Will do

That's also being discussed in another thread.

Stepping away from Krennic for a moment, thank you Mark for making this happen.

This'll be a brain dump, I can crack this into separate threads if need be. EDIT: Cracked into 3 threads
 
CRL: Staff Officer: Black
Rename to Staff Officer: Rogue One.  Update Photo with a "correct" rank bar configuration (using the same model if possible, just one of the ranks from RO).
Begin Creation of a Staff Officer: ANH.  There is a thread floating around SOMEWHERE here with lots of details - while no one has made a completely screen accurate tunic, I know several people intend to try soon (Kris is one I believe)
 
Also, on 123 of the VG, there is a crewman in a greyish uniform (not the blue of the Mechanical Crew, but not the black of bridge Crew).  Might be something to look into.  Also would love to see Galen's uniform and the Death Star Engineers made - Galen might have ended up being a "good guy" but to the Empire he was considered one of ours.

Stepping away from Krennic for a moment, thank you Mark for making this happen.

This'll be a brain dump, I can crack this into separate threads if need be. EDIT: Cracked into 3 threads
 
CRL: Staff Officer: Black
Rename to Staff Officer: Rogue One.  Update Photo with a "correct" rank bar configuration (using the same model if possible, just one of the ranks from RO).
Begin Creation of a Staff Officer: ANH.  There is a thread floating around SOMEWHERE here with lots of details - while no one has made a completely screen accurate tunic, I know several people intend to try soon (Kris is one I believe)
 
Also, on 123 of the VG, there is a crewman in a greyish uniform (not the blue of the Mechanical Crew, but not the black of bridge Crew).  Might be something to look into.  Also would love to see Galen's uniform and the Death Star Engineers made - Galen might have ended up being a "good guy" but to the Empire he was considered one of ours.

Rename to Grand Admiral & Thrawn? Very simple change, makes it clear.


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I believe Mark was looking into that rule.

OK last one for tonight - I'll tackle diagramming all the other seams later, but here's how the Arm Slit openings are made. If you know how to make a bound buttonhole, it is very similar. And of course there's a layer of fabric underneath everything to fill in/close up the opening so you can't really put your arm through it (probably so it didn't gap open all the time). It's way, way past my bedtime - more later!
 

Hello! My name is Katie D Keith. I've been invited by Mark to work with Meg to figure out how to correct and improve the CRL for the Krennic Cape. I have not been active on the forum but I've been making 501st costumes for the last few years - Mark was my first costumer. I have a Associated Degree in Costume Construction from Indiana University (IU) and a MA in Apparel Design from Cornell. I taught Fashion Design Illustration at IU for 3.5 years before I had my son, who's is turning 3 this weekend. I actually found out I was pregnant the day after I met Mark for his first fitting. My son kept me quite busy for awhile, but now I'm finally getting a chance to spend more time working on costume commissions, and I'm known for making the First Order hats. So basically my background is strong in clothing construction knowledge, thorough research skills, and teaching through effective communication, both verbal and visual. I learned when teaching how important it was to clearly communicate my instructions to best achieve consistent understanding by my many students. I also have a very keen eye for details from my Master's research and all the grading I did as a professor. And what I'm also offering you is a fresh eye and perspective to this wonderful lot of photos that provide so much info about this costume as well as the images from the Rogue One Visual Guide. (I am also working on a Krennic costume for Mark so I've been researching it for awhile myself - and the cape is my next part)
 
Now onto my findings... first up, Cape Yoke & Collar
 
#1 Cape Yoke Length: I agree that we don't need specific measurements for the cape yoke on the CRL when landmarks or providing a range of measurements will do (I've had issues with specific measurements that were too big for the size I was making). But I did figure out why those yoke measurements were shorter than expected. It is because the Cape collar sits down away from the jacket collar, say about .5"-1", and the yoke side ends somewhere past the jacket princess seams but before the end of the jacket/sleeve seam, about 1" or more depending on how the cape is laying. You can see the how the cape portion goes out level with the yoke and then drops down over the edge of the jacket along the sleeve. But as pictured, this yoke is not meant to extend the full length from jacket collar to jacket sleeve seam. The front edge of the yoke starts about a 1" or less from the jacket collar and ends about 1" or more away from the jacket's edge, some where between the jacket princess seam and the sleeve seam.
 
#2: Cape & Jacket Collars: I like to use items in the photo that have known size and relate it to other parts of the costume - though i know it isn't perfect, it at least gives me a rough idea of proportions. Based on this, I think that both collars are roughly the same height - a bit longer than the height of the rank bar, so maybe ~2.8"-3", as I think the jacket collar does extend a bit more below the front jacket. The reason that the cape collar is lower than the jacket is because it is attached down away from the jacket collar, as explained in #1. The stitching lines on the cape collar are also a good indicator of overall height - I'd agree there about .25" apart so the collar again should be at least 2.75" - maybe almost 3".
 
Yay! Higher resolution version:
 

TR- Trooper...  Royale?
TD- Trooper Dirty
TB - Trooper Biker (I guess this makes sense)
TS - Trooper Snow (ok, it works)
TA - Trooper.... ATAT?

A few thoughts...
 
1. The rain version will certainly be part of the same CRL, it will just be an option.
2. I'm guessing the flash back will be a version of an existing CRL, even if it's a variation of the ISB and say "or you can use this tunic".
3. I would agree that we shouldn't mention how the cape is attached, as it's not visible to leave it up to each person making it how they want to do it.

However because they are not visible it should be stated attachments should not be seen

Are you part of our Imperial Academy page?  We have an armor party this weekend at the Parkers (literally 2 blocks from my house - it's so rad  )  Come on out and meet us, even if you don't have anything yet.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/296336407050926/

FYI, this would totally work for Dark Empire (Dark Alliance?  I get the names messed up) - I can get you in touch with our local reps on that - they allow custom siths and are a LFL approved group, so they come hang out with us on troops.  Several of our members are also part of it, so there's a lot of crossover.

Here you go.  https://www.facebook.com/TDEKorribanTempleDFW/
 
As for the AP, I pinged one of the admins to get you added in the group, once you are I'll point you to the party

I'd imagine this was an oversight for L2/L3 - As Kris said, stand by.
 
I for one would like to get one when my taxes come in.

I appreciate it!  I was just approved on the FB group.

How about as its not seen how its done we lose the method of attaching the cape? 

I just sent the request to join! I will also invite my partner. And ah! Armor party! I know several people who are in that group! I would LOVE to come out and meet you all this weekend; I'll ask her if she is also interested! What's the info on the location and times?

I...honestly had no idea that there was a Dark Empire/Alliance group, and that sounds fantastic. I'll check them out!

That is a point I would need to confirm.

And two different types of rank bars are worn, 6 red tiles when he was younger and the admiral style (6 red 6 blue tiles) later.

FYI for future reference, at least in this version of the boards, when you dump text a thing will pop up at the bottom asking if you want to remove formatting.
 
Helps us old people that don't have to dye our hair to pull this character off  (for real though - every time I get a hair cut I look down and go "I wasn't that grey...  wut?")

Well for future reference, people only have to talk to me, i'm not that scary, well only when I'm kitted up as Revan 
 
don't just assume, ask me, i've nothing to hide
 
 
Thanks, yeah sorry about that, the UKG boards are black with white text and it didn't cut and paste very well.
 
 

This seems to be the day where I don't do anything else but to agree with the others, but James and Cassandra said everything that had to be said.