CommanderBaz

Hask should have his own Crl and I don’t see why not.


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Why the big debate kris has shown more then enough references he's a main character in the game we should happy to have another choice for the members and a new crl it seems to be the same people constantly wanting everything there own way 

Is there any word or decision on this?


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I know the LMO team are working out some of the fine details with the layout, as mentioned above. Lets all hang tight.  

K. So I am gonna show you guys this.
 
Now keep in mind this will change. This is just a test but I want you all to see why we generally do not do over two changes on a CRL without giving it an entirely new one. 
This looks weird and I think is really going to confuse GMLS. (as as LMO is my goal to NOT happen). Click twice to make larger.
 
To my eye there are just to many changes and looks wonky. 
 
Krennic is a good example of a CRL where there are MULTIPLE CONFIGURATIONS. 
NOT Different like items.
Hask has completely different Items from the generic officer. Which is why this isnt working.
 
So I cant just throw it as optional like Krennic, cause they arent optional. They are HASK ONLY items.
 
I hope this is making sense...
 

 
In comparison to Krennic which is OPTIONAL or SAME items. The ONLY changed item is a RANK BAR. 
 

 
 
 
 

In my opinion I believe Hask should be a separate character.
He is the main villain in several of Battlefront 2 singleplayer campaigns and major Imperial Officer villains have separate CRL's such as Krennic.
There is also definite evidence that the generic FO Battlefront officers are different to Hask therefore it would be very confusing and wrong to incorporate Hask into a CRL.

Just a quick reminder to a statement made above, I will say again, a person who makes a new to the legion costume does not have to consult anyone except the DL and the LMO they don't even have to let anyone else other than the 2 mentioned even know they are building said costume, I have in fact shared my intentions and progress with everyone, so if that is not letting people have a voice whether I agree with the view or not then I don't know what is.

Let's not be scared of a bunch of work, let be scared of poorly understood CRL's.
The point here is that it is clearly not "the same costume".
We should always push for better accuracy and understanding.
Being too generic is just crazy and with the added language translation issues for a worldwide organisation, we need to keep things simple, not convenient for the CRL writers.
As for Hask being held up to Skywalker...... at least he didn't just fade away

Yes, people would lose their minds because it's a stupid idea. Tactically speaking, a surrender and acceptance of your fate would be a smart move here. There has been plenty of evidence supplied against your argument, and you have riled up the IOC.

This is entirely correct , yet you're overlooking a point that several people brought up already and that keeps being brushed aside . 

Hask is a Hero character like Iden and the rest of Inferno Squad , and by the end of the game , the main antagonist . 
He's NOT a generic character , period . 

Or we might as well just delete the Hux CRL because he could be a Generic FO General , downgrade Tarkin to a Generic Grand Moff , etc ... 

The facial scaring is part of the costume. Just like Tarkin/Thrawn/Hux/Daala

To me "Generic Officer" and "Hask" are as different as "Generic Jedi" and "Luke Skywalker". We all grumble and moan at the inaccuracies, differences and ambiguities in CRL's, and having them separate enables the staff and members to create a more accurate and more importantly understandable definition of the costume.
This is a no-brainer in my mind.

I’m a cleared level 3 Imperator for Staff Officer - emulation chosen was Commander Praji.

There was no specifics about facial hair or scars etc so hence why it does not have its own crl.

If a Character like Hask has specifics including facial hair, scar then yes it should have its own crl after all that’s why Grand Moff Tarkin has his own crl due to the face/hair features - or should we downgrade that crl to a generic admiral?

I really don’t see why we can’t accept this and just keep arguing the toss to be frank?


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I’m a cleared level 3 Imperator for Staff Officer - emulation chosen was Commander Praji.

There was no specifics about facial hair or scars etc so hence why it does not have its own crl.

If a Character like Hask has specifics including facial hair, scar then yes it should have its own crl after all that’s why Grand Moff Tarkin has his own crl due to the face/hair features - or should we downgrade that crl to a generic admiral?

I really don’t see why we can’t accept this and just keep arguing the toss to be frank?


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For my twopenith I have 3 cleared costumes (ANH stormtrooper, Death Star Crew, and TIE Pilot Reserve) and 2 WiPs currently on the go.. a new FO stormtrooper and a Staff Officer.

I have personally chosen 'generic' character costumes as that suits my time, budget, and is (currently) my preference.

However there are many specific characters that have their own crls and that should be the case I feel, not only to differentiate them from generic crls, but is also gives costumers that want to, something to aspire to above and beyond the generic level 1 2 and 3 variants in this case for this type of officer.

If Kris has gone to the time, effort and expense to create a near perfect Hask (even down to the scar) and have a crl developed around this build then we should support that and have it as a separate crl, in the list of FO officers costumes, as we do with Krennic, Hux and all the other named/specific characters.

Take the Vader crls for example... that is not 1 crl with 'levels' that differentiate ANH, ROTJ, R1 etc...variants. Each variant has it's own crl. Surely the same should apply to specific character Officers.?

If I were to undertake a Hask or a Krennic I would prefer to see a specific crl for that character with all its specific details and intricacy that goes into ensuring my build is spot on.. not just a level variant.

Hask should have his own Crl and I don’t see why not.


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I've read this thread with interest and it's a great build but if there's doubt that Hask should get a unique CRL, then as others have pointed out, hes a cutscene character with dialogue and a main character in the game - does anyone else in the 501st actually even have a costume like this? I thought  a costume was needed before adding to a CRL.... every journey has a beginning... and the challenges  making a real life costume of a game version look to have been overcome. We can dwell on some things waaaaaay too much. Let's get to work... for the Empire! 

I agree with Mac that I think Hax should have a specific crl, if someone like kris has the time and patience to make it look as close as possible to a screen accurate picture with all the differences, or he’s just making a generic Officer, I’m not expert and am still learning how this all works but from a newbie stance to me it’s too many differences.
Regards
Anthony

When copy and pasting an existing CRL then adapting it, Its important to remove all the information that's not pertinent IE there is no evidence Versio has a modesty panel, also is there a good clear pic of the pants? as every other officer regardless of era wears First Order style

Hi,
I'm Liz VoodooBarbie Springs. I'm looking for an advisor to help me with a first time build Imperial Officer black uniform please. 
I'm back and forth between SC and the UK too much to list a location 
 
Thank you!

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Previously we have been lenient (right or wrong) with the top stitching, due to the fact the majority suppliers now offer a uniform without top stitching we are now strictly impose the CRL requirement:


 
On a personal basis I would also prefer Imperator level ANH Staff Officers to have the 'Fahrenheit 451' style jacket, at the moment this is a request and not a requirement.
 
Unfortunately, I will have to reject this request, apologies,
Phil

Congratulations to our new Detachment Leader
 

 
TK 4584 - Mark C Ryner [captsafe66]

For Robert:
Quoting your response;
How am I more imperial than you?  

Well, I think the rebels are filth, I believe the emperor was elected, the Jedi were not and it is a good thing those baby stealing traitors do not exist as an organization or as individuals anymore.

Just kidding.  I don’t know you well, so I can’t tell you if I am more imperial than you.  I am guessing you have me beat with the accent, so I will leave you with this.  I believe that a good imperial “Serves the realm”.  That is my definition of an imperial.  If you believe that too, then I am not MORE imperial than you, but I am not less either.
 
What I find amazing about this statement is;
1. I was stood behind you at Celebration 2016 and you haven't even realised or bothered to see who I am.
2. You haven't even bothered to really notice I am level 3 Imperator 
So I say to you yes I am more Imperial than you.
 
Just kidding in an election is pretty slapdash to be honest.
 
My question is now: Why not consider trying to become an intergral part of IOC by more interaction and involvement than basically coming from nowhere and idleness on IOC to becoming its DL?
 
 
 

Motoss asks:
 
Hello candidates!  Thanks you for accepting nominations.  Here are my questions:
 
1.  As others have noted we are the second largest detachment - however, smaller detachments have had much more success in actually introducing new costumes and putting out CRLs.  What role do you see the DL in moving this process along?
 
2.  Our main costume is commonly used as a backup or when handlers are needed.  Bridge crew is beginning to be the "go-to" low budget costume for recruits in addition to Staff Officer.  Do you have any plans to help get more members in the officer uniform or to wear the officer uniforms they have more often?
 
3.  For members of the Detachment who already have their costume built and don't intend to add on any more costumes within our Detachment, what do you feel the Detachment site adds for these members other than merch?
 
 
1- Let try to give a brief outline in the CRL process:
    1. Someone has to actually make the costume. 2. Said person must approach the DL or LMO to begin collectively working on it. The person must be involved because they can explain the costume parts and materials probably better than say me. 3. DL and LMO team must compile a detailed description and all agree what it should look like as well as all wording. 4. High-res photos must be taken of the model, all costume items for their individual descriptions and be photoshopped to remove background. 5. Then it goes to the LMO and legion Web Team where it will be in queue for addition the the main CRL wiki and be visible to everyone.
   This isn't the answer to you question but the process that is involved.   The hold up has been some excessive debating on details that can maybe wait for amendment at a later date.  There is also quite a few CRLs for the LMO to add.   I will be able to take a more active stance in getting these added.  Members need to remember that this is a team effort and that not everyone's draft or pics can be used for the CRL.  The best version for the Legion will be used and sometimes, the DL doesn't make the final decision.  Ultimately, the LMO has the final say.
All I can do is to promise to do my best to smooth out the wrinkles in the process and to create a forum for interested IOC members can add to this process. 
 
2- Promote, suggest and lead by example.  That is how I get members of my Garrison to don an IOC costume.  I just make it look good, that makes others want to do it.  I will promote the Halls of Commemoration awards to urge members to wear and document IOC costume trooping.  I may even consider some swag awards.
 
3-  Some of the best friendships I have were started in the IOC.  We try to add information and to provide a platform to share ideas and triumphs.  We are an information source, a lot of members only want that but I try to make a welcoming and safe place to share.   But you have to admit, we've had some great merch too.