kman

Hi everyone 

Just wanted to jump in here and say hello.  I am Jason from Denmark, and I am going to apply for membership of the Legion on my 18th birthday on the 22nd of August with a bridge crew costume. 

I have been trooping as a youngling for the past 5 years as a Tie pilot, a Jedi and latest as Kylo Ren, which my younger brother now has taken over.  The picture is from our 4th of May parade last year in Copenhagen.
 
I have Aspergers syndrom, which causes me difficulties as to social gatherings, so having a mask on, has helped me a lot and gotten me out with my mum and little brother on troops.  I´m hoping to add a gunner as the next addition   if I get approved. My first choice was, sorry, a senate guard, but we are having some problems regarding the helmet.  

I´ve ordered a tailored suit and a belt from A&J, hat and boots I already have, now waiting for my package to arrive.

I am already in touch with the Danish Garrison, and I wrote their GML team a mail asking,  if I could send them my pictures before my birthday to hear, if there was anything that wasn´t okay and I could then make the adjustments, so I hopefully could be approved on my birthday as an extra birthday for myself. 
They said no and I was turned down regarding help, because I am not 18 yet. 

When I get my suit, I´ll put in the pictures here before my application is being send to hear, if it is okay     
 

"Military fashion" (sounds like an oxymoron LOL) varies

I agree Staff Officer should be in the name somewhere.  Beyond that, I don't have much of a preference.

I agree Staff Officer should be in the name somewhere.  Beyond that, I don't have much of a preference.

Very nice kit.  Good luck!

Your concern would be absolutely valid, but fortunately, that's not the way we've planned this to work.  We're not simply "renaming" the old CRL, while simultaneously making these significant changes.

Instead, previously-approved members will still have the designation of "Staff Officer (Black)".  No change.  That designation will simply no longer be available for new approvals (once the generous grace period ends).
 
New approvals will have the option of ANH Staff Officer (if that's the costume they have), or this new one, whatever it's ultimately named.

Your concern would be absolutely valid, but fortunately, that's not the way we've planned this to work.  We're not simply "renaming" the old CRL, while simultaneously making these significant changes.

Instead, previously-approved members will still have the designation of "Staff Officer (Black)".  No change.  That designation will simply no longer be available for new approvals (once the generous grace period ends).
 
New approvals will have the option of ANH Staff Officer (if that's the costume they have), or this new one, whatever it's ultimately named.

Your concern would be absolutely valid, but fortunately, that's not the way we've planned this to work.  We're not simply "renaming" the old CRL, while simultaneously making these significant changes.

Instead, previously-approved members will still have the designation of "Staff Officer (Black)".  No change.  That designation will simply no longer be available for new approvals (once the generous grace period ends).
 
New approvals will have the option of ANH Staff Officer (if that's the costume they have), or this new one, whatever it's ultimately named.

Your concern would be absolutely valid, but fortunately, that's not the way we've planned this to work.  We're not simply "renaming" the old CRL, while simultaneously making these significant changes.

Instead, previously-approved members will still have the designation of "Staff Officer (Black)".  No change.  That designation will simply no longer be available for new approvals (once the generous grace period ends).
 
New approvals will have the option of ANH Staff Officer (if that's the costume they have), or this new one, whatever it's ultimately named.

Sith belt and buckle and cap badge based on research by myself and Gian at Philoprops.
The actual belt is wider this is an example of the way its ribbed.
 
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Good questions, Rudi.
 
I don't recall the black uniformed officers wearing trench coats.  I vaguely recall that being added to the CRL as an appeasement at the time, before it was clear that all trenchcoat-wearers were actually wearing the green uniforms, so unless someone can provide a reference, this may be an opportunity to correct that.  I'd love to hear more discussion on the subject, though, as long as it's actually referenced-based and not "but it seems like they should have it, too, because it's cool and I want to wear one!".
 
The V.G. is considered Canon, I believe, so that would be enough to include the SE14R, I believe.  That said, yes, actual reference would be all the better, if someone can find something.
 
Regarding pants, I'm pretty sure all the OT-style jodhpurs are the same basic pattern.  It just varies from person to person how exactly it sits, so you won't know how high they go under the tunic, and whether buttons, laces etc. are hidden under the boots, unless we get more good BTS shots, since we never see those details otherwise.  More important is how the visible parts look, IMO.  I don't really care if the pants come together one way or the other under the boots, because there's really no circumstance that would ever been seen.  Ditto suspenders vs belt loops, unless people are doing extreme stunts on troops.
 
All that said, I don't make the final calls, but that's my input on those questions.

There is also a pic of the 2 officers in RO visual dictionary wearing trenchcoats.

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Good questions, Rudi.
 
I don't recall the black uniformed officers wearing trench coats.  I vaguely recall that being added to the CRL as an appeasement at the time, before it was clear that all trenchcoat-wearers were actually wearing the green uniforms, so unless someone can provide a reference, this may be an opportunity to correct that.  I'd love to hear more discussion on the subject, though, as long as it's actually referenced-based and not "but it seems like they should have it, too, because it's cool and I want to wear one!".
 
The V.G. is considered Canon, I believe, so that would be enough to include the SE14R, I believe.  That said, yes, actual reference would be all the better, if someone can find something.
 
Regarding pants, I'm pretty sure all the OT-style jodhpurs are the same basic pattern.  It just varies from person to person how exactly it sits, so you won't know how high they go under the tunic, and whether buttons, laces etc. are hidden under the boots, unless we get more good BTS shots, since we never see those details otherwise.  More important is how the visible parts look, IMO.  I don't really care if the pants come together one way or the other under the boots, because there's really no circumstance that would ever been seen.  Ditto suspenders vs belt loops, unless people are doing extreme stunts on troops.
 
All that said, I don't make the final calls, but that's my input on those questions.

Good questions, Rudi.
 
I don't recall the black uniformed officers wearing trench coats.  I vaguely recall that being added to the CRL as an appeasement at the time, before it was clear that all trenchcoat-wearers were actually wearing the green uniforms, so unless someone can provide a reference, this may be an opportunity to correct that.  I'd love to hear more discussion on the subject, though, as long as it's actually referenced-based and not "but it seems like they should have it, too, because it's cool and I want to wear one!".
 
The V.G. is considered Canon, I believe, so that would be enough to include the SE14R, I believe.  That said, yes, actual reference would be all the better, if someone can find something.
 
Regarding pants, I'm pretty sure all the OT-style jodhpurs are the same basic pattern.  It just varies from person to person how exactly it sits, so you won't know how high they go under the tunic, and whether buttons, laces etc. are hidden under the boots, unless we get more good BTS shots, since we never see those details otherwise.  More important is how the visible parts look, IMO.  I don't really care if the pants come together one way or the other under the boots, because there's really no circumstance that would ever been seen.  Ditto suspenders vs belt loops, unless people are doing extreme stunts on troops.
 
All that said, I don't make the final calls, but that's my input on those questions.

That settles that one.

Staff in Trench

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It's not entirely my call, of course, but this is actually a case where I would lean towards including measurements in the CRL itself.  Far too many people (including vendors... present company excluded) won't bother to click through to a resource page (assuming it's even that easy).
 
We can think more on how to present it, however.

I'm on board with that.

I agree @kman maybe we just put approximately 3mm? That still leaves some room to manoeuvre without being too anal about it. 
I’m sure there could be some variation found somewhere in R1 but I’m unsure of the exact scene you mean, good reason to watch it again!
For most of my OT badges I’ve reigned the distance in a fair bit from 6.4mm based on my own calculations. Except for Veers of course! That badge is hard to get just right. 

I'm a big fan, too.
 
I don't think we need to get down to the 1/10th of a millimeter level.  But if the correct spacing is actually roughly 3mm, we should use that figure in the L2 text.  6.5mm seems pretty huge... that should probably be reigned in a bit, unless we have an on-screen example of rank badges set significantly far apart like that.  Even OT, with the exception of Veers, IIRC, most were in the same ballpark, at least.
 
I seem to recall seeing some badges (one of Krennic's in particular) where the spacing was pretty darned tight, but I don't recall offhand badges that were super spaced out.  (again, I haven't checked this, though)

Thanks for supplying that!  I haven't paid so much attention to the newer styles compared to OT, so I would have had to work it out, and I'm sure you already have, as one of the better vendors out there.
 
As an aside: @lantern2745: Tile size should have the word "deep" or "depth" after the final measurement.  Let's also add "OT size" after the first set of measurements, and "R1 size" (or words to that effect) after the R1 tile sizes, to make it more clear which people should be aiming for.
 
Reading between the lines, @shadan, am I to surmise that the ideal spacing is approx 3.5mm, but you're giving a range?  Or does the spacing vary from rank to rank?
 
I think we should state what the measurement SHOULD be, and note that anything from X to Y is acceptable (at the basic level), just so the various makers (and DIYers) know what they should be shooting for (assuming there is a consistent number... I assume 3.5mm is that number, since that's what we list in L2?), and to give the best consistency among members.  Otherwise people are going to guess wrong, and lazy vendors will go with what's easiest instead of what's best, and the resulting badges will be all over the place.  (which is allowed, but hardly ideal... it's so easy to provide a clear specific target here while we're creating this for the first time)  We still have the "approximately" in place even at L2, to hopefully prevent GMLs from breaking out their micrometers.

I'm inclined to towards pro-hat as well.  An officer should have a hat.
 
Once approved, if they're trooping in a specific configuration that's hatless, so be it.  But I stand by that there are no officers without hats, whether they wear them all the time or not.
 
My 2 cents, anyway.

I have found some more reference pics.
I’ll make a draft for the CRL, I think that’s the best way, before I contact my tailor.
 
 

 
 

 
 

I'd want to see more references, as to those discs on the collar being code discs.  That detail is clear on the hat, but not the collar.  Might be considerably simpler, for the collar.
 
I agree on the boots and jodhpurs being standard OT style.
 
Figuring out that disc in the center of the uniform chest will likely need more references, too.
 
The collar is completely closed, moreso that just a modesty panel.
 
The upper part of the tunic appears to be an entirely separate panel, sort of like Galen Erso's Tarkin Initiative / Imperial Scientist has a different panel.  (Very different design, though, I'm just using that to illustrate the true panel separation, rather than a mere seam)
 
And that first image shows something odd with the back of the hat.  Not clear if it's just artistic whimsy in that one frame, or a slightly different design in back.  We'd need to see more references to be sure, I'd think.
 
 

Thank you... I’m looking at ANH staff officer- so I can continue to be in charge of my husband.