LindsayL

In that case, to keep this as ANIMATED as possible for now, and let's revisit the "should this be a separate CRL or v3" discussion once we have the texts all knocked out? We can then see how we feel.
 
In the spirit of keeping this as ANIMATED as possible, I'd like to propose the following texts for the hat:
 
Hat, Olive, Rebels-Style
Hat is OPTIONAL but only if a specific referenced licensed character’s typical uniform configuration is copied in full, and does not typically include a hat. Fabric is a medium weight suiting material matching the pants and tunic if applicable. Cavalry Twill or a Gabardine style weave is most accurate. Base of the hat is conical, with a crown about 4 inches (101.6 mm) tall. Front and rear “flaps” overlap on the sides, with the back flap over the front, and are about 4 inches (101.6 mm) high. Front bill extends 3 inches down; there are no concentric stitches. Imperial Code Disk is positioned in the center of the front vertical "flap.”  
OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):
Code Disk exactly matches Rebels style disk  
Thoughts?

In the conversation it was mentioned that the no concentric circles could be level 2 or 3. But yea, we should keep these at basic if we are doing an animated version (either CRL or version 3) because it goes with what is shown in the animated series—there are no concentric circles on animated hats. And the disc matches the belt one too for animated series belt, so it’d be odd if someone mis-matches those. And taking these away you’re starting to erase the animated look.

I like this version 3 idea with the animated difference (hat, jodhpurs, etc). What Shadan says is fine too—for me separate CRL or version 3 is fine, but if folks want to put like a 7th fleet patch on a real world costume I think that should be fine to. 
 
I’ll add that for me animated is different (or both same and different to be more precise) from real world versions—they have those slight differences to show they are specifically from the animated shows. I get that it’s a stylized version of real world costume, but to me that’s the point—we are creating the look that that stylized animated medium portrays, which is a streamlined, minimalistic version of live action. Just as creating a real world looking costume pays tribute to the costume design and characters in live action, creating a costume to look like how the costume is portrayed in the animated series pays tribute to the characters and animators/artists’ designs of the costumes. To say it’s just the animated style of real world costume erases the animated part and the animators/artists’ designs of the costumes imo. 
 
We have an animated Pryce CRL already with some of those differences too, so that’s why I get the separate CRL idea, but the version 3 is fine to me too since one could say that was done because it’s not a face character, then add like the patch as optional accessory on all versions so everyone who does any version can have that if they want. 

Do like this idea, my only concern is that it may appear a little confusuing to some people, particalarly when we already have other Rebels-specific CRLs.
 
This is my opinion only (would be happy to hear from others!) but I look at the Officers in Rebels as being no different to those we've seen anywhere in terms of in-world canon.
They appear different simply because of the medium used in this TV show.
So I would suggest that if we do add another tab to the Imperial Military Officer (non-saga) CRL then this would remain a 'real-world' costume, meaning regular boots, tunic, jodphurs, rank badge etc, but with the addition of things like the 7th Fleet patch, markings on the hat and collar of the tunic.
We could even potentially list these items as optional accessories rather than a tab.
 
Then we proceed with this CRL here, keeping it a separate entry, with all the rebels-sepcific items like you've mentioned above. Noting the almost everything is different to 'real-world' items, this would make sense I think?
 
This would give people a choice.
They could go the fully stylised animated route, OR a costume that looks as though it comes from live-action.
 
Just my thoughts but would like to hear from others.

That's a good point. 
 
Hm speaking of which, before we get too far with this conversation ... a small but possibly worthwhile digression ...
 
Instead of creating a "Rebels" officer CRL, what do we think about creating a third version for the newly created Imperial Military Officer?
 
Here's the thinking - 
The Imperial Military Officer CRL was recently created to allow members to provide members with flexibility when creating costumes. We call out in the text that the CRL was intended for "Star Wars, Rogue One, Solo, The Mandalorian and Expanded Universe". This Rebels Officer CRL occurs around the same time period in the universe, the difference being these are "animated" and not "real life".  As it stands, a lot of our conversation is about leveraging almost the same language for the "Basic" level CRL, with level 2/3 being more animated. We are not creating a "face character".  SO, why not create just a "version 3" of the Imperial Military Officer CRL, with the third version focusing on Rebels style officer? This is exactly what was done for the Imperial Security Bureau Officer CRL (check out how different v1, v2, and v3 looks).
 
For reference, these are the features that I think would make it into "v3", or the Rebels-style of the Imperial Military Officer - 
Tunic: One seam down the middle on the back Hat: "Rebels-style" hat disk, no concentric circles on hat Belt: "Rebels-style" belt disk, no grooves,  Jodhpur: Pointed flares Rank Bar: Animated (Rank bar is one strip with four rounded corners NOT two separate bars as with OT rank bars; tiles are opaque.) We had proceeded down the path of creating a separate Rebels Officer CRL since this was started years ago ... but now that we have the Imperial Military Officer CRL, maybe this is another option?
 
What are your thoughts on this? @buckrogersbarker @kman @shadan

We will be using this thread to finalize the CRL for Imperial Military Officer (Rebels).
 
Also referred to as "Rebels Line Officer" and "Rebels Style Officer" on the forum, we are going to follow the current naming convention and refer to this as "Imperial Military Officer (Rebels)". This should also give us the flexibility to expand on the CRL if we'd like in the future. We will leverage existing verbiage from other CRLs where possible. 
 
We will use this post as the main listing, and tackle each part one by one. (Green = complete, Yellow = WIP, and Red = yet to be finalized):
 
Hair and appearance Hat, Olive, Rebels-Style Tunic, Olive Rank Bar Code Cylinders Belt Jodhpur Trousers Officer Boots Gloves (Optional) Belt boxes (Optional) Colored contact lenses (Optional) Holster (Optional) Blaster (Optional)  
Also linking here to a few previous threads and useful info - we are consolidating them here, and will continue the conversation / discussion on THIS thread.
 
Reference images: https://imgur.com/a/beec3PI @LindsayL's build thread: https://www.imperialofficer.com/forum/index.php?/topic/10898-rebels-style-officer-wseventh-fleet-emblem-optional-accessory-crl-proposalwip/  
------------FINALIZED TEXT GOES BELOW THIS LINE------------
Description: Imperial Military Officer (Rebels)
Prefix: ID
Detachment: Imperial Officer Corps
Context: Star Wars: Rebels
TBD
Special Notes:
TBD --------------------------------------------
Hair and appearance
Applicants may style hair, facial hair, alter eye color, or use makeup, to emulate any character that wears this costume, provided the example is from a licensed LFL source. When not emulating a specific character’s appearance, applicants are encouraged, but not required, to adhere to conservative hair stylings and grooming of a military nature.  
Hat, Olive, Rebels-Style
Hat is OPTIONAL but only if a specific referenced licensed character’s typical uniform configuration is copied in full, and does not typically include a hat. Fabric is a medium weight suiting material matching the pants and tunic if applicable. Base of the hat is conical, with a crown about 4 inches (101.6 mm) tall. Front and rear “flaps” overlap on the sides, with the back flap over the front, and are about 4 inches (101.6 mm) high. Front bill extends 3 inches down; there are no concentric stitches. Imperial Code Disk is positioned in the center of the front vertical "flap.” Code Disk exactly matches Rebels style disk  
Tunic, Olive
Fabric is a medium weight Olive/Field grey colored suiting material matching the trousers (and hat, if present). Tunic is double-breasted with a left over right closure on the tapered yoke. Yoke comes up across the shoulder to the top shoulder seam. The standing collar has square corners, is between 1.25" (31.8 mm) to 2" tall, and closes snugly. The wearer's neck must not be visible between the closed collar edges. A modesty panel behind the collar closure is recommended to help with this, but is not required. Collar edges are closed together in front with two eye hooks. There are code cylinder pockets on both outside panels of the jacket, from about half way between the top and bottom on the arm hole. A central seam runs down the back of the tunic, with no princess seams. Tunic has long sleeves which are without decoration, cuffs or buttons. Tunic is constructed with no top-stitching (stitches visible on the exterior surface of fabric). Fasteners on the uniform should not be visible. Uniform is to be pressed and free of a wrinkled appearance.  
OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):
Sleeve may contain one seam on the inner arm.
  Rank Bar
Worn on the left side of the tunic over the heart, aligned with the code cylinder pocket. Rank consists of same-sized colored plastic tiles mounted on metal or metal looking bar. Length and height are determined by chosen rank. Each bar is approximately 1" (25.4 mm) height.
Rank bar corners are slightly rounded.
Rank tiles are translucent, rectangular, positioned side by side in a vertical orientation, and evenly spaced. Color, quantity, and combinations of the tiles/bars are determined by rank, and are appropriate to uniform type/color as supported by licensed reference.
 
OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):
For rank bars with two rows, the rank bar is one strip with four rounded corners NOT two separate bars as with OT rank bars; tiles are opaque. Chosen rank to match a specific officer seen onscreen or other licensed media.  
Code Cylinders
Between 1 to 4 Code Cylinders per costume may be worn.
No more than 2 code cylinders per pocket.
Modified Silver "chalk holder" tube with a short clip and blue top. Dosimeter Style: True Dosimeter with correct clip and Blue top. Clip is silver in color.  
OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):
Must be Rebels style code cylinder with correct Rebels style clip and blue caps.   Belt
The belt is constructed from a non-textured leather or a leather-like material. Approximately 2" (50.8 mm) in width no more than approximately 3" (76.2 mm) wide. There are no loops on the belt. A single large snap or rivet is visible approximately 1" (25.4 mm) to the left of the buckle, snap can be raised to a semi conical shape. The buckle is constructed from a horizontally brushed metal, or metal looking material. Buckle has a raised metal code disk. Code Disk exactly matches Rebels style disk  
 
Jodhpur Trousers
Fabric is a medium weight suiting material exactly matching the tunic. Trousers are flared riding breeches, with semi-stiff flares to the hip/thigh area. Breeches are worn with boots. Breeches are neatly pressed or ironed without creases. Pockets are acceptable, although must not be visible with the tunic on.  
OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):
The flares on the jodhpurs mimic the shape of Rebels officer’s flares

And here we go! Let's start with "Hair and appearance".
 
Here is the text from the Imperial Military Officer (Non-Saga) CRL. I think it applies just as equally.
 
Hair and appearance
Applicants may style hair, facial hair, alter eye color, or use makeup, to emulate any character that wears this costume, provided the example is from a licensed LFL source. When not emulating a specific character’s appearance, applicants are encouraged, but not required, to adhere to conservative hair stylings and grooming of a military nature.

Any objections from anyone here before locking the "hair and appearance" section? Feels like it should be standard language to allow flexibility for the future. If no objection, I will lock, and then we can move on the hat, which should be some interesting discussions!

New pics: https://imgur.com/a/6QqX1D0
And:
https://imgur.com/a/PZ3kTTC
 
 
CRL rough draft:
Description: Rebels Style Line Officer
Prefix: ID
Detachment: Imperial Officer Corps 
Context: Star Wars Rebels
 
Tunic
• Fabric is a olive drab medium weight suiting material.
• Double-breasted with a left over right closure on the tapered yoke.
• Yoke comes up across the shoulder to the top shoulder seam.
• The standing collar has square corners.
• Collar closes snugly without visible fasteners and includes a modesty panel behind closure.
• Collar edges are closed with two eye hooks.
• There are code cylinder pockets on both outside panels of the jacket from about half way between the top and bottom on the arm hole.
• Sleeves are long, and without decoration, cuffs or buttons.
• Tunic is constructed with no top-stitching (stitches visible on the exterior surface of fabric).
OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable)
• Collar is approximately 1.25" (31.8 mm) tall.
• A central seam runs down the back of the tunic, with no princess seams.
• The yoke is void of any decoration or cuts.
• Sleeves contain one seam on the inner arm
 
 
Trousers
• Fabric is a medium weight suiting material exactly matching the tunic and olive drab in color.
• Trousers have narrow stiff flares.
• Pockets are acceptable, although are not visible with the tunic on.
 
 
OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):
• The flares on the jodhpurs mimic the shape of Rebels officer’s flares
 
 
Officer Boots
• Knee-high, black, riding style, lace-less, smooth non-textured, leather or leather-like material.
• There are no buckles, snap tabs or decoration.
• Boots have conservative heels.
• A single stretch panel or zipper may be present, they are to be hidden on the inner part of the boot shaft.
◦ Not visible from the front, side or back.
• The top of the boots may be flat or Spanish Style, but not Cowboy or Super Hero (pointed at the front) style.
 
 
OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):
• Boots do not have stretch panels or a zipper.
 
 
OPTIONAL Level three certification (if applicable):
• Boots are made of leather.
◦ Not vinyl or PVC.
• Exact replicas of English riding (dress) boots or Equestrian boots.
 
 
Rank Bar
• Worn on the left side of the tunic over the heart.
• Rank consists of colored plastic tiles mounted on metal or metal looking bar.
• Each bar is approximately 1" (25.4 mm) height.
• Top bar has a small radius on the top right and left corner.
• Bottom bar has a small radius on the bottom right and left corner.
 
OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):
• Rank bar is one strip with four rounded corners NOT two separate bars as with OT rank bars; tiles are opaque.
 
 
Code Cylinders
• (2) Code Cylinders are worn.
• Modified Silver "chalk holder" tube with a short clip and blue top.
• Dosimeter Style: True Dosimeter with correct clip and Blue top.
• Clip is silver in color.
 
 
OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):
• Must be Rebels style code cylinder with correct Rebels style clip and blue caps.
 
 
Gloves
• Black, wrist length gloves constructed of a non-textured leather or leather-like material.
• Enclosed fingers.
• No buckles, straps, or other decoration.
 
 
OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):
• Gloves extend past the wearer's wrist several inches, covering the forearm while reaching or bending the arm.
 
 
Belt
• The belt is constructed from a non-textured leather or a leather-like material.
• Approximately 2" (50.8 mm) in width no more than approximately 3" (76.2 mm) wide.
• There are no loops on the belt.
• A single large snap or rivet is visible approximately 1" (25.4 mm) to the left of the buckle, snap can be raised to a semi conical shape.
• The buckle is constructed from a horizontally brushed metal, or metal looking material.
• Buckle has a raised metal code disc.
 
 
OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):
• Belt does not have grooves.
* raised metal code disc matches Rebels style disc
 
Optional Accessories
Items below are optional costume accessories. These items are not required for approval, but if present appear as described below. If adding in an accessory after initial approval, the item still needs to be submitted to local GML for approval before use:
          — 3 inch Chimaera patch on left arm
 
 
Hat, Olive
• Fabric is a medium weight suiting material exactly matching the tunic and pants.
◦ Gabardine style weave is most accurate.
• Color matches the tunic and pants.
• Base of the hat is conical, with a crown about 4" (101.6 mm) tall.
• Front and rear "flaps" overlap on the sides and are about 4" (101.6 mm) high.
• Front bill extends 3" down, decorated with (5) (6) or (7) concentric stitches.
• Imperial Code Disk positioned in the center of the front vertical "flap."
 
 
OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):
• Code disk has a notch in it on the outermost disk.

 
OPTIONAL Level three certification (if applicable):
• Code Disk exactly matches Rebels style disc 

Looking forward to see this crl, looks like a lot of work has already been done and the finish is in sight!

Cool, yeah I still have to do new pics anyway, been busy each week with Loki variant pics for fun lol! 

Hello! I just wanted to pitch in and add that I’ve been wanting this new costume too. I’ve had mine for about two years now, but have thus far been unable to get it passed by the 501st.
 
Concept:
 
Chimaera Line Officer (Olive) referenced from the unnamed Imperial crewmen (and Ezra Bridger) seen in Star Wars Rebels. Practically the same as the standard Imperial Line Officer (Olive) but with the Chimaera patch on the shoulder. I have enclosed images of these officers below, highlighting the patches on their arms, as well as myself wearing the costume. A bit redundant, but I have also included a screenshot from the canon webpage of the Chimaera, which mentions the patches worn by its crewmen. 

I hear you.  I do 90% of my submission photos alone, in my living room, with a camera on a tripod and a timer, at like 2am when everyone else is asleep.  No way to take photos with a house full of people.  Sooo much easier when my wife can help, on occasion, though!  Especially for costumes with armor and gloves.  Ugh.
 
It can be done, though!

Sure, the one above is new front, the others I’ll do but will need to wait till I can have someone over to help. I live alone so it’s hard to take pics, especially back because I can see it. It’ll be easier with help. 

Hi Thanks LMOs I got your email and heard back, here’s a pic with a tighter collar, it really can’t get more tighter because it’s already tight around my neck—maybe you looked at older pics? I fixed the collar last year and labeled the new pics “tighter collar , as for hat too big I assume too tall? Okey dokey! It’s circumference is already 21 inches—that’s my hat size so smaller will be too small for my head, but if you mean too tall got it!! Np! But as for wrinkles/creases I can iron and press and see what that does certainly! What areas with wrinkles were you concerned about? Some I can hit with an iron certainty! But like where the belt cinches and between legs those won’t go away with ironing. With my body type there’s always going to be some creases here and there. Maybe someone smaller can try then. Or if possible just use the pics of the uniform pieces and add a Rebels style option to the olive Officer CRL? But thanks! 

Better pic of it on me next week when I have someone to take pics lol!
 

Just so everyone knows there is a limit to this, the location is going to be kept private, but if interested you need to message Taryn Summer (who organized it) in the Ladies of the Legions fb page and tell her you’re interested in going. There’s a small fee for everyone going to pay the photographer, a private chat has been set up for those ladies going. So if interested message Taryn—look her up in ladies of the legions fb page—she did post about this in that group (she’s not an IOC member). All pin ups from anything Star Wars is fine. But there’s a cut off date and a fee and possibly a limit to those going because the photographer is doing individual as well as group shots so it’s limited in number so all ladies can get individual shoots in the time we have w/photographer. So message her soon! 

Better pic of it on me next week when I have someone to take pics lol!
 

Better pic of it on me next week when I have someone to take pics lol!
 

Ok just about done, need to take better pics of me in it--gonna have friends come by next week to lol!
 

I think that's what I did in my previous attempt at the CRL.
Honestly, I think that was pretty much ready to go...

Awesome, a friend and are staying at the Hyatt so I’ll swing by!

Well, everything is back up in the air.  The full 501st photo has had it's time, date, and location changed.
That one is now on Sunday at 9 am about a block away at the West building.  From what I understand, this was an edict from Reed Pop and not something the planning committee chose to do.
So for now, the time and location for the IOC photo is still 12:30 at the stairs but that could all change.
I will be working hard to keep the information flowing!
- Jeff

This is my JRS and IOC hoodie so far. Had to add the first order patches and rank bands. It's had a few additions since this pic.

 
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Yep, I added some flowers to girly it up, that and I just like flowers so why not.