AJ1990

Can’t agree more. Being in the same garrison as the one who has been working on this costume, I was super excited for it and would have followed as soon as the crl was greenlit.

Now?

Well I guess I’m staying with my bridge crew as my ONLY IOC costume.

Disappointed in the lmo’s for this. Disappointed in the sheer ridiculous nature of the call.

I've not been following this buid in close detail, can I just summarise why it was rejected to to see if I'm understanding it correctly?  The crl was rejected by the LMO because:
 
- The LMO team should have been involved sooner.
Except that the LMOs were involved from the very beginning of this thread and have commented consistently.
 
- The costume should not have been made before the LMO team had given the crl a green light.
Except that whenever new crls have been asked about in the past the standard response from Kris (an LMO) has always been "someone has to build it first".
 
- There aren't clear reference shots of the back
Except this has never been a requirement that is applied evenly and, according to the actual wording (shared above), is not so much a requirement as a preference.
 
Anything else I'm missing?

Pathfinders - Mountain Trooper.

Where was the sources for that? That was solely from a galaxy’s edge exclusive action figure....

This is the problem I have seen pointed out several times in the last few hours in this thread. There are way too many examples of “yes, THESE are the rules, but not when it applies to X,Y or Z, because WE deem it so”.

Pathfinders - Mountain Trooper.

Where was the sources for that? That was solely from a galaxy’s edge exclusive action figure....

This is the problem I have seen pointed out several times in the last few hours in this thread. There are way too many examples of “yes, THESE are the rules, but not when it applies to X,Y or Z, because WE deem it so”.

Hi, bargain basement SWAT team Lt. Sunber here.
 
For what it's worth, under the "Character Approval" in the "CRL and New Costume Survival Guide", it states:
 
The way it's written, it sure sounds like some leeways can be given. A full back reference is not required as some have stated on this thread. Legion costumes have had a track record of getting updated over the years as more reference materials emerge. A "complete ensemble" costume and CRL has been developed closely following available reference images. Just my two cents - when there are conflicting opinions I like to draw people back to the original text (to take feelings and assumptions out of the equation).

Can’t agree more. Being in the same garrison as the one who has been working on this costume, I was super excited for it and would have followed as soon as the crl was greenlit.

Now?

Well I guess I’m staying with my bridge crew as my ONLY IOC costume.

Disappointed in the lmo’s for this. Disappointed in the sheer ridiculous nature of the call.

Can’t agree more. Being in the same garrison as the one who has been working on this costume, I was super excited for it and would have followed as soon as the crl was greenlit.

Now?

Well I guess I’m staying with my bridge crew as my ONLY IOC costume.

Disappointed in the lmo’s for this. Disappointed in the sheer ridiculous nature of the call.

When we are so beholden to this stuff, we quench any and all hype for the costume.  I’ve seen it many times (also in our active CRL library I’m sure you could pick out dozens of costumes with worse references than this one).
 
Yes we may get a back reference in the future.  MAY.  But if we do it will be way too late and this will be a single digit costume rather than one that could result in a new crop of people getting approved.
 
Let members make this costume, and if we ever get references that contradict the CRL, update it at that time.  We are losing an entire generation of costumers interested in First Order and Sith Eternal costuming by being overly dogmatic on our CRL process.

Can’t agree more. Being in the same garrison as the one who has been working on this costume, I was super excited for it and would have followed as soon as the crl was greenlit.

Now?

Well I guess I’m staying with my bridge crew as my ONLY IOC costume.

Disappointed in the lmo’s for this. Disappointed in the sheer ridiculous nature of the call.

Can’t agree more. Being in the same garrison as the one who has been working on this costume, I was super excited for it and would have followed as soon as the crl was greenlit.

Now?

Well I guess I’m staying with my bridge crew as my ONLY IOC costume.

Disappointed in the lmo’s for this. Disappointed in the sheer ridiculous nature of the call.

This is complete and utter poodoo.
Not once was I (former DL) notified that this would not be accepted, or I'd have yelled from the top of this hill that I'll die on, that this was a bad decision.
Mountain Trooper is based solely on a toy.
Captain Cardinal is 90 percent based on a toy (that has the wrong helmet!).
All the Spec Ops Army CRLs are based on crudely drawn comics, and look like bargain basement SWAT team members - which is why we didn't want them.
95 percent of the clones died before order 66, thus shouldn't even be 501st.
But because the back of a black costume isn't seen in full daylight, you're gonna nix it?
This is precisely the flawed reasoning that made me vote NO for your ratification.
- Jeff

@DarthAloha, I'm trying to parse this... I've been informed that the LMO team has been kicking around discussions about this costume for many weeks, if not longer.  Kris Kobus is on your LMO team and he was the one who started this very thread... he certainly knows every step that's happened along the way with this costume, having personally made recommendations to the applicant (as you can read in this very thread, again).  What sort of involvement was lacking, for this costume?
 
Or is this more in regards to other costumes, to be developed in the future?

Ok. Thanks!
 
Now that I’m home I’ll catch up with the rest of the team about it. Lately these decisions are voted on by all LMOs with no one LMO having more say than the other. 
 
What I’d like to work on is getting us involved earlier in the CRL creation process. It’s sort of broken that we tend to sit around and wait for a detachment to throw something over the wall to us to think about. That’s an internal LMO problem not something about the detachments or IOC. My hope is to spend more time on IOC this year to prevent that. 
 
Thanks for everyone’s patience. 
 
-Eric 

I think the shots earlier in this thread are as good as it's going to get, unless LFL decides to release more BTS footage.
 
Fortunately, CRLs can be edited if something dramatic and new is learned later.

Yes, this is included in the text above, which references "shoulder yoke across the back", as part of the tunic.  That's what that is.

Ok, I'm going to start working on the CRL text, from this point forward.  Here are the most recent photos Steph posted, to use as a guide.  (These aren't submission photos, but will suffice for drafting purposes.
 


 
THIS TEXT IS PRELIMINARY.  I expect we will tweak a number of the points here, further.  Text in bold italics, in particular, may need work.  (And metric/imperial conversions will be added as needed, as usual)
 
Sith Eternal Officer CRL
 
Description: Sith Eternal / Final Order Officer
Prefix: ID
Detachment: Imperial Officer Corps
Context: Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker
Officers in the High Command of the Final Order, raised on the planet Exegol by the Sith Eternal—Sith cultists who revered the dark side of the Force and were devoted to the Sith religion. 
 
Hat, Sith Officer, Black
The front brim is a shiny black patent leather-like material. It is curved and does not obscure the wearer's eyes. The brim should attach to the hat body to present a smooth curve aligning with the back flap. The visible sides of the crown have an appearance of ribbed black leather, rubber, pleather, or similar material. Base of the hat is conical, with a crown about 4" tall. Hat is roughly cone shaped with a flat crown Front and rear ‘flaps’, and top of the crown, are of a black medium weight suiting material matching the pants and tunic. Front and rear "flaps" overlap on the sides, with the back flap's ends overlapping the front's where they attach to the body of the hat. Front flap is about .5" to 1" higher than the top of the crown, and crisp and smooth in appearance. The flap is vertical with a tilt outwards around the sides of the hat. Rear flap is vertical with a tilt outwards around the sides and back. Sith Code Disk is metal or metal appearance and is positioned at the center of the front vertical flap.  
Tunic
Fabric is a black, medium weight suiting, exactly matching the pants. The closure is at the centre front using a hidden zipper, enclosed by visible red material approx 3-5mm wide. There is red ribbon or similar across the chest from each side and angling down to meet in the center of the tunic, combining with the center closure to form a flattened Y shape approx 3-5mm wide, when worn. The sleeves are long and end at the wrist. The tunic is fitted to the body, with a shoulder yoke across the back. The tunic has a center seam in the back, reaching the yoke. There is no vent in the back of the tunic. A vertical dart on each side of the front may extend up from the waist under the belt, stopping approximately mid chest, if needed to accommodate body curvature. Rank band insignia is attached on the left arm approx 1/3 of the distance from the elbow to the wrist. A front V-shaped chest yoke is attached and extends up from directly above the red lines.  It is the same fabric as the tunic, with smooth, semi-rigid construction. The Chest Yoke follows the neck curvature and extends to cover the top of the shoulders with faux epaullettes atop the shoulder, and ending at the back of the epaullettes atop the shoulder. The Chest Yoke attaches in a seamless, flush, invisible manner.  
Level 2: The Tunic's yoke across the back shall intersect the arm-hole seams approximately 1/3 of the way down the arms, from the top. There is a seam running the entire circumference of the tunic, dividing it along a line hidden by the uniform belt.
  Level 3: There is a lining sewn in.  
Neck Seal
The Neck Seal shall have an appearance of ribbed black leather, rubber, pleather, or similar material. The Neck Seal is fitted to the wearer under the jacket, has horizontal ribs, and the ribbed material extends from the base of the neck to just under the chin, to conceal the entire neck.  
Chest Rank Bar
A plain metal rectangle with radiused half-circles on the long ends, approx 2 ½” long by ⅜" width and 1/8" thick. Bar is attached flush to the tunic by concealed means.  
Jodhpur Pants
Fabric is a black, medium weight suiting, exactly matching the tunic. Flared riding breeches have semi-stiff flares in the hip/thigh area, below the tunic and above the knee. Flares are sharply triangular in shape and fit snugly at the knee. Pockets and waist belts are acceptable, if not visible with the tunic on.  
Officer Boots, Sith Officer
Knee-high, black, lace-less, smooth non-textured, leather or leather-like material, with moderate to high-gloss shine. There are no stretch panels, snap tabs, or decoration, other than the adjustment buckle at the top, if present. Boot seams closely match screen-used boots. Soles are flat. If zippers are present, they are on the inner part of the boot shaft only.
  Level 2: Boots have an adjustment buckle at the top  
Belt, Sith Officer
The belt is constructed from a rubber or rubber like material with horizontal ribbing. Belt is approximately 2.5" to 3" in width, and should match the height of the belt buckle. There are no loops on the belt. Belt fits snugly over the natural waist of the wearer, covering the horizontal tunic seam, if present. The buckle is constructed from metal, or metal looking material. The buckle size is approximately 2 5/8" (66.7 mm) high and 4 1/8" (104.5 mm) wide with rounded corners. Sith Code Disk is metal or metal appearance and is positioned at the center of the buckle.
  Level 2: Buckle has a satin finish, not brushed Corners are more rounded than Imperial Officer buckles from the original trilogy  
Gloves, Sith Officer, Black
Gloves are constructed of a non-textured, black leather or leather-like material. Gloves are have enclosed fingers, are fitted, and worn underneath the sleeves. Gloves are long enough to cover the wrist entirely. No visible buckles, straps, or ornamentation. Gloves may be plain or have three lines of stitching on the back of the hand.
  Level 2: Gloves have three lines of stitching on the back of the hand.  
Rank Insignia Band, Sith Officer
Worn on the left side of arm, above the wrist and below the elbow, approx 1/3 of the distance from the elbow to the wrist. Rank consists of one black band sewn down to the sleeve with raised red Aurebesh writing on it. The edges utilize piping or an embroidered line on each side. For the Captain rank, the Aurebesh spells “STELS". Additional rank options and corresponding Aurebesh shall be added as discovered from licensed sources. Both piping (if used) and embroidery (Aurabesh and lines) are red.  
 

Good effort Steph. That’s already better than what a lot of early crl attempts have been like on a few costumes over the years. One would HOPE that it’s enough to satisfy the lmo’s into green lighting the crl, and enough to silence the nay-sayers.

For thise asking about the back. Here are my screenshots. I managed to lighten the picture and there is 100% a seam across the back, around shoulder height. 
 

 
And heres mine
 

 
 

Thanks for that. My wife is an experienced seamstress and makes a lot of our Garrison's costumes but the Officer tunic is a first for her. She said she'll figure it out and post one when its done so she can help others. Cheers. 

Based on other Officer CRLs I read up on, I did a bit of a mock up for the Sith hat. Please let me know if I am on the right track here. (This is just based off my measurements and materials) If it works, I will start on the rest.
 
Hat, Sith Officer, Black
The front brim is a black leather-like material. It is curved and does not obscure the wearer's eyes.
Fabric of the crown is a ribbed black pleather which runs horizontal along the crown
Base of the hat is conical, with a crown about 4" (101.6 mm) tall.
Front and rear ‘flaps’ are of a black medium weight suiting material matching the pants and tunic.
Front and rear "flaps" overlap on the sides.
Front flap is about 4.5” (114.3 mm) The flap is vertical with a tilt outwards around the sides of the hat.
Rear flap is about 4" (101.6 mm) The flap is vertical with a tilt outwards around the sides and back.
Sith Code Disk is positioned at the center of the front vertical flap.

I've already started going through my costume and trying to word it right for a CRL, if you would like me to post it here? 

Some CRL's have detail pages for certain parts. Like the ANH tie pilot helmet page. Maybe we should make those for the rank bars, code cylinder, code disk, and belt boxes. Ide be happy to help write that!

Isnt "staff officer" just a designation that the 501st came up with years ago for a uniform that we now know never actually existed on screen?
LFL refers to the black uniformed officers as "Security Officers" and therefore all the references will refer to that.  Makes sense for us to follow suit. 

Pallet banding.  When I was interning in a tool room, I had to scrounge to make some springs for a stamping machine fixture.  Couldn't find any anywhere.  Old guy in there sorta shakes his head, grabs a tin snip and says "Follow me".  So we go to shipping, he cuts a chunk of steel pallet banding and hands it to me.
Sure enough.  It's high carbon spring steel, about a 32nd thick.|
Now, you'd need to cut it to width, but any good brake press should do the trick.. haha

Echoing above, I would love a set, but certainly not feasible if you’re translating 40 pounds into Australian dollars. I’d end up paying about $100 AUD with shipping factored in...not feasible for me