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So I got a standee.... So I can see detail at full size. Very illuminating what details I missed. I sent closeups to one the 3d modelers to ensure a closer detail as he works on the new parts.
 

 
It shows some vambrace detail, foot cover detail that was pretty hard to see.
 




 
I also have a printed and painted chest plate. So that's neat.
 

 
So I'll wait for some updated moff files, through out my orignal knees (or give them to a mando in need)
 
Found someone to help with casting the ab section, probably using smooth on. So. Many. Steps.

Very excited to have this all completed, finally!
 
 

 
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Exciting stuff to see a new costume get brought to the legion, even if it's not IOC! I also agree with your sentiment here, this is a great way for cross-detachment co-operation! If an IOC member wants to make this it gives them to join a new detachment they might not already apart of, or if an IGC member wants to make this, they can get help with the uniform from IOC members! We're all in this together!

Ladies and gentlemen, 
 
The LMOs have granted the Imperial Gunnery Corps detachment this kit. Not a big surprise for most people I'm sure.
 
I would head over there if you want to make this. Drew is a wonderful detachment leader who is willing to work with anyone! 
 
The IGC doesn't get as many new costumes as us. It's not anti-ioc to recognize this. Its about fairness and unity with other detachments. We're actually very fortunate at the IOC, to get many new costumes every year!
 
So lets be happy for the wonderful wholesome people at the IGC, instead of sour. If you want to make this, look at it as a new opportunity to meet new people in the IGC! At the end of the day, we make these for charity and community service! One legion, one goal! 

Ive been waiting to see, if we see a bit more of the generics to gauge where this is going to land. 
 
Currently I would say they are a rebel costume, with the exception of Elia Kane. That could change before the end of the season or next season? With the new content its just not as clear cut as it used to be. But at present I would say they are new republic. 
 
 
 
 

Welcome!

Welcome to the IOC!

Welcome aboard, Gabrielle!

You now have full IOC Access here.  Congratulations!!  Also you can join the officer's mess if you want.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/iocofficersmess

Very excited to have this all completed, finally!
 
 

 
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Congratulations!!!

Some things should go without saying, but we live in an age where we do have to say things. I will cross post this in the Officer's Mess too.
 
At no times will this detachment be a home or accepting to people that are friendly to or espouse the ideas behind fascism, Nazism or any totalitarian ideology. We dress up as fictional space bad guys. Conflating any of the above with doing that is not only morally wrong, it puts at risk what we do here in this detachment and the legion as a whole. We will not allow such a risk.
 
I have spoken to members who have belonged to reenacting groups that have had those ideologies come into them. That will not be permitted here, not under this administration. And if that day ever comes that it would be allowed, I would hope you would join me in finding another hobby.
 
There will be no litmus tests for members. If you are a reenactor, I hope you enjoy doing it and I hope you keep the ideology out of it. There is no conversation over re-enacting that you cannot take private. And if you are an open adopter of the ideologies listed above, no one wants to hear it...ever. If you see something in violation of this, please contact the staff and we will deal with it promptly.

(totally a side topic, but since I keep seeing it come up here)

I'm just a cadet trying to get an Imperial Bridge Crew approval right now.  As outside eyes coming in fresh, a strongly-gendered name for a job is a huge throwback to when I was a kid.  It rings in my ears to read "crewman" and "crewwoman".

I think it makes sense to un-gender the term to "Crew Member."  People of all genders (and none) can crew a starship all the same.  The costume is the same on everyone who wears it.

NASA dropped the term "manned spaceflight" for "crewed spaceflight" over 22 years ago.

It might be time for the 501st to do it as well.
 

My general thoughts on levels 1 through 3 are that 1 should be accessible for those that want to do the costume.  With higher levels something that can be worked on over years if they want to keep striving to get that level of accuracy.  

There has been a lot of pulling level 3 details down to level 1 over the years in the legion.  This does more to dissuade people from joining.  I am a firm believer that costume excellence should be incentivized, not gatekept. 

I also suggest looking at the CRLs for the other similar uniforms:  Imperial Military Non-saga, Security Services Non Saga, and the ISB Non Saga to see where we place what is level 2 and level 3.  We are not bound by precedent, but we try to keep these ships flying in formation with one another.

just received word minutes ago that the LMO has approved this costume to move forward.  We look forward to the constructions we see here.

I wholeheartedly agree with Eagle in my capacity as Diversity Officer for my garrison. A female imperial lead is a VERY big deal and to not include her as her own CRL would be a disservice to all female and femme-presenting 501st members who have been waiting so long for a major female Imperial face character. This could also have implications for possible LFL casting troops, although they are rarer these days, I will admit. And people want to see face characters, let’s be honest.
 
She and the femme-identifying members of the Legion deserve more than “ISB non-saga with three blue tiles and a blonde bun.”
 
On the point of the middle seam, there is no evidence it *is* there in the non-saga ISB uniforms. Not in the references I’ve been able to find, anyway. They rarely show the tunic without the belt, so the opportunities to look are few and far between. We only know it’s there in the OT uniforms because they’ve been on display where they can be closely examined. The ISB non-saga has not had that opportunity, to my knowledge.
 
I am currently working to get higher-res images, and reaching out to find someone who might be able to tell me more. I’m also working closely with my GML, who is an approved staff officer and naval trooper. We’ve been pouring over the scenes where Dedra and the other ISB officers appear, and as far as we can see clearly, at least in Andor, they all wear the same style flat top boot with a strap. The location and style of the strap is still something we’re trying to nail down.

I for one speaking as an IOC member fully support a Dedra CRL.

I respectfully disagree. I think characters/officers that play a significant role in these stories deserve a CRL. That includes people like Tarkin. I've never heard this sentiment voiced in any other administration but this one. 
 
At the end of the day when you go to the GML, you will not be approved as Dedra, you will be ISB. No matter what is said or promoted here.
 
It's a good system, for background officers sure. But you won't be approved as that Officer, you'll just be line, staff, or ISB with that named character configuration.
 
This is one of the first on screen imperial officer female leads, and not giving her a CRL is a disservice to our female members here in the IOC and the legion as whole. You have the interest, let the CRL be made. 
 
Tom

It's fantastic to see that there is a new realistic Canon female Imperial officer character,  for that reason alone she should have a seperate CRL named ISB Supervisor Dedra Meero, as it really is a specific character with specific hairstyle and there are so many subtle differences in comparison to the other ISB Supervisors.
The IOC would be doing it's members a disservice for not giving her a separate crl as there is finally a female character that's added to the roster of approvable costumes.
 
I am at work now but when researching last weeks into these officers I also noticed that there is some slight differences on her coat aswell, or that there is at least a male and female version of the coat with the female version looking much more tailored and the length appears to be different aswell. 
 

Just want to pop in here and say that your dedication to Moff Gideon's costumes has been awesome to watch and is what the 501st is all about!  Can't wait to see the updates (and s2 completed!)

Just want to pop in here and say that your dedication to Moff Gideon's costumes has been awesome to watch and is what the 501st is all about!  Can't wait to see the updates (and s2 completed!)

This will be the text submitted to the LMO team.  It is the same as the previous submission last year with the exception that a single line has been removed from the Tunic section.

The tunic has a center seam in the back, reaching the yoke.

This line has been removed after learning the details of how the back was constructed by direct contact with LFL by the LCO.  The costume has been altered to reflect this single detail change in the above photos.  The rest stands as before.
 
Sith Eternal Officer CRL
 
Description: Sith Eternal / Final Order Officer
Prefix: ID
Detachment: Imperial Officer Corps
Context: Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker
Officers in the High Command of the Final Order, raised on the planet Exegol by the Sith Eternal—Sith cultists who revered the dark side of the Force and were devoted to the Sith religion. 
 
Hat, Sith Officer, Black
The front brim is a shiny black patent leather-like material. It is curved and does not obscure the wearer's eyes. The brim should attach to the hat body to present smooth curves at the sides, aligning with the back flap. The visible sides of the crown have an appearance of ribbed black leather, rubber, or similar material. Base of the hat is conical, with a crown approximately 4" (100mm) tall. Hat is roughly cone shaped with a flat crown Front and rear ‘flaps’, and top of the crown, are of a black medium weight suiting material matching the pants and tunic. Front and rear "flaps" overlap on the sides, with the back flap's ends overlapping the front's where they attach to the body of the hat. Front flap is approximately .5" to 1" (12-25mm) higher than the top of the crown, and crisp and smooth in appearance. The flap is vertical with a tilt outwards around the sides of the hat. Rear flap is vertical with a tilt outwards around the sides and back. Sith Code Disk is metal or metal appearance and is positioned at the center of the front vertical flap.  
Tunic
Fabric is a black, medium weight suiting, exactly matching the pants. The closure is at the center front using a zipper with concealed teeth, surrounded by visible red material approx 3-5mm wide. There is red ribbon or similar approximately 1/8" to 1/4" (3-5mm) wide, crossing the chest from each side and angling slightly down to meet in the center of the tunic, combining with the center closure to form a flattened Y shape , when worn. The sleeves are long and end at the wrist. The tunic is fitted to the body, with a shoulder yoke across the back. There is no vent in the back of the tunic. A vertical dart on each side of the front may extend up from the waist under the belt, stopping approximately mid chest, if needed to accommodate body curvature. Rank band insignia is attached on the left arm approximately 1/3 of the distance from the elbow to the wrist. A V-shaped separate chest yoke is attached to the top and front of the tunic, extending up from directly above the red lines.  It is the same fabric as the tunic, with smooth, semi-rigid construction. The Chest Yoke follows the neck curvature and extends to cover the top of the shoulders with faux epaulettes atop the shoulder, and ending at the back of the epaulettes atop the shoulder. The Chest Yoke attaches in a seamless, flush, invisible manner.  
Level 2: The Tunic's yoke across the back shall intersect the arm-hole seams approximately 1/3 of the way down the arms, from the top. There is a seam running the entire circumference of the tunic, dividing it along a line hidden by the uniform belt.
  Level 3: There is a lining sewn in.  
Neck Seal
The Neck Seal shall have an appearance of ribbed black leather, rubber, or similar material. The Neck Seal is fitted to the wearer under the jacket, with horizontal ribs. The ribbed material extends from the base of the neck to just under the chin, to conceal the entire neck.  
Chest Rank Bar
A plain metal rectangle with radiused half-circles on the long ends, approximately 2 ½” (63.5mm) long by ⅜" (10mm) width and 1/8" (3mm) thick. Bar is attached flush to the tunic by concealed means.  
Jodhpur Pants
Fabric is a black, medium weight suiting, exactly matching the tunic. Flared riding breeches have semi-stiff flares in the hip/thigh area, below the tunic and above the knee. Pockets and waist belts are acceptable, if not visible with the tunic on. Flares are sharply triangular in shape and fit snugly at the knee.  
Officer Boots, Sith Officer
Knee-high, black, lace-less, smooth non-textured, leather or leather-like material, with moderate to high-gloss shine. There are no stretch panels, snap tabs, or decoration, other than the adjustment buckle at the top, if present. Boot seams closely match screen-used boots. Soles are flat. If zippers are present, they are on the inner part of the boot shaft only.
  Level 2: Boots have an adjustment buckle at the top  
Belt, Sith Officer
The belt is constructed from a rubber or rubber like material with horizontal ribbing. Belt is approximately 2.5" to 3" (63.5-76.2mm) in width, and should match the height of the belt buckle. There are no loops on the belt. Belt fits snugly over the natural waist of the wearer, covering the horizontal tunic seam, if present. The buckle is constructed from metal, or metal looking material. The buckle size is approximately 2 5/8" (66.7 mm) high and 4 1/8" (104.5 mm) wide with rounded corners. Sith Code Disk is metal or metal appearance and is positioned at the center of the buckle.
  Level 2: Buckle has a satin finish, not brushed Corners are more rounded than Imperial Officer buckles from the original trilogy  
Gloves, Sith Officer, Black
Gloves are constructed of a non-textured, black leather or leather-like material. Gloves are have enclosed fingers, are fitted, and worn underneath the sleeves. Gloves are long enough to cover the wrist entirely. No visible buckles, straps, or ornamentation. Gloves may be plain or have three lines of stitching on the back of the hand.
  Level 2: Gloves have three lines of stitching on the back of the hand.  
Rank Insignia Band, Sith Officer
Worn on the left side of arm, above the wrist and below the elbow, approx 1/3 of the distance from the elbow to the wrist. Rank consists of one black band sewn down to the sleeve with raised red Aurebesh writing on it. The edges utilize piping or an embroidered line on each side. For the Captain rank, the Aurebesh spells “STELS". Additional rank options and corresponding Aurebesh shall be added as discovered from licensed sources. Both piping (if used) and embroidery (Aurabesh and lines) are red in color, close in color to the red used on the tunic stripes.

@Imperialrebel we have returned and are back on station.  We will be working with what you have presented to formally send to the LMO office.

With this final bit of information, we've decided with the rest of the LMO team that this costume now has enough references to be build into a CRL