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Oh please, we both know that is FAR from the truth. What did you want to call it again? Imperial Army Trooper Detachment? Didn't get your CRLs so you boycotted for a whole new detachment. "stronger together!" As your staff puts it. We demonstrate this by trying to steal established CRLs from other detachments because we didn't get our way!
 
Yeah, it's not a personal notion. It's common sense. I understand a dark trooper, is not an officer CRL. You claim to be the upmost Star Wars expert. Yet you think gunners and dark troopers are officers now?!
 
Stop attacking the staffs before yours, its toxic and not very representative of "stronger together". The detachment was never as divided as it is now. So the idea your pedaling, that the IOC was actually worse before you, is utter nonsense.

You might want to check with Spec Ops before developing this one! 
 
Just a heads up! I know you'll knock this one out of the park as well!

The metric I'm using is that this character is wearing a gunner helmet, which is the literal logo of IGC. Also, they already have the Imperial Weapons Tech CRL, which is nearly identical to this one in terms of the overall design—Gunner helmet, grey outfit, etc. 
 
An officer tunic is the only officer exclusive part of this. You don't need experts for that item because tunics are readily available. 
 
 
There's no pushback for the reasons you think they are because or because it's a bad idea. It's all technical. Dual affiliation requires a lot of backend tech work and would consume a lot of time. Going through 30000 approved kits to update detachment affiliation would be challenging. Most people only use the detachment for merch runs and kit assistance. The active users that would appreciate the feature are a minority. Is it worth the time? I don't think so, personally.  
 
The system we have right now is fine; if it aint broke, don't fix it. 
 
 
ACD, not Blizzard Force.
 

That is a good message, but not everyone on your staff believes that. People here treat the IOC as the best detachment in the legion; every other detachment is beneath the IOC. (I guess that's a fitting attitude for officers) There is nothing wrong with detachment pride, but once you start trying to steal CRLs from other detachments or being rude towards other detachment members or staffers, you're an elitist. Not saying you are, but again, there are people here and on the IOC staff that take this way too seriously, those people need to do a reality check. Plastic spaceman club, not the actual Empire. 
 
When you start stepping on other detachments' toes, you only create anger in this group. That has happened here and it flies in the face of stronger together. 
 
Because, as you said, we are stronger together. I'm a member of multiple detachments and will advocate for them equally. We dont have a claim to this. They wear gunner helmets. Let's stop picking fights with other detachments, please. Andor and Mando have given us plenty of new officer things. Don't pretend a tech wearing a gunner helmet belongs in the IOC, when the ICG already has a similar CRL.
 
If people here think this belongs in the IOC, consider this. The ICG has six CRLs; we have close to 50. They rarely get new characters to create. Time to put your money where your mouth is. This is stronger together. The ICG deserves this CRL, not the IOC.

I feel that, if we don't have examples of the uniforms without these details, we will for sure need to include them.  Right now, we should lean towards making them necessary, but if you find examples without the pips, I feel we can make the pips and hat detail a level 2 and level 3 requirement.
 
Looking at this photo here, these almost seem gold or brass in color.  I don't think they are pins, so we are looking at paint or vinyl.  Of course it is animated, so construction details are lost.

Do you have any scrap material?  Can you test a paint detail and a vinyl detail so we can compare?
 
 
 

Because a reference was missing for the back, the LCO got the reference and we Green lit the crl. This was a great achievement getting the reference.

Also we then proposed to change the rules so this wouldn’t happen again, this got through council and a vote changing the rules for RLA costumes passed. So a really positive result.


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Unfortunately, there isn't an awful lot that can be done about the angle of this planet. 
 

Glad you took my advice Jim. 

I for one speaking as an IOC member fully support a Dedra CRL.

Hi! Just wanted to weigh in on the color of the tunic.

Best way to color match, i've found, is to take pics of a physical piece of fabric in natural light (but in the shade) as well as synthetic light, (both warm and cold lighting).  

When I made a prototype of the Andor ISB suit, i naturally assumed it was white.  But when we made it in white...it seemed off, too cold, compared to the Andor ISB.  So when someone in one of the imperial officer facebook pages said it was light grey, we tried to find a very light grey to match...and boy did it match!

I'll let these pics speak for themselves:
 
Image 1: the light grey armani fabric:

 
Image 2: Clockwise from top left: Light grey tunic (natural light, indoors, morning) , white tunic (natural light) , Dedra's tunic, CRL white tunic

 
Image 3: Clockwise from top left: CRL off-white/ecru tunic, Dedra, light grey tunic (under warm light, indoors), light grey tunic shadow (warm light indoors)

 
You can also see the shade difference of Dedra's tunic against the white chair she's sitting on.
 

Actually the colour is a very light grey as per a source in the costume department.

Under "Tunic."

Actually the colour is a very light grey as per a source in the costume department.

I don't have the screen caps at the moment, but the center seam and left belt hook can also be seen in the group balcony scene in the season finale.

I can't speak for any LMO administrations having not served on one.
I can speak for previous IOC administrations having been your predecessor, and working with my predecessor and his.
Where has there been resistance to CRLs for women?
The CRL models could certainly be updated to feature a more diverse array of members, but in my time and in my various roles I was never privy to specific CRLs for women or feminine presenting members being denied for that reason alone.
Seeing as you brought it up here, I'd appreciate elaboration on it here.
- Jeff

I for one speaking as an IOC member fully support a Dedra CRL.

Just has a quick look and it appears though Dedra's tunic does have belt hooks its risen up at the front and there is a centre seam, EP 7 13:47

Just has a quick look and it appears though Dedra's tunic does have belt hooks its risen up at the front and there is a centre seam, EP 7 13:47

Thank you for settling that one. Saved me from needing to do the research!

Just has a quick look and it appears though Dedra's tunic does have belt hooks its risen up at the front and there is a centre seam, EP 7 13:47

Just has a quick look and it appears though Dedra's tunic does have belt hooks its risen up at the front and there is a centre seam, EP 7 13:47

I for one speaking as an IOC member fully support a Dedra CRL.

I wholeheartedly agree with Eagle in my capacity as Diversity Officer for my garrison. A female imperial lead is a VERY big deal and to not include her as her own CRL would be a disservice to all female and femme-presenting 501st members who have been waiting so long for a major female Imperial face character. This could also have implications for possible LFL casting troops, although they are rarer these days, I will admit. And people want to see face characters, let’s be honest.
 
She and the femme-identifying members of the Legion deserve more than “ISB non-saga with three blue tiles and a blonde bun.”
 
On the point of the middle seam, there is no evidence it *is* there in the non-saga ISB uniforms. Not in the references I’ve been able to find, anyway. They rarely show the tunic without the belt, so the opportunities to look are few and far between. We only know it’s there in the OT uniforms because they’ve been on display where they can be closely examined. The ISB non-saga has not had that opportunity, to my knowledge.
 
I am currently working to get higher-res images, and reaching out to find someone who might be able to tell me more. I’m also working closely with my GML, who is an approved staff officer and naval trooper. We’ve been pouring over the scenes where Dedra and the other ISB officers appear, and as far as we can see clearly, at least in Andor, they all wear the same style flat top boot with a strap. The location and style of the strap is still something we’re trying to nail down.

I for one speaking as an IOC member fully support a Dedra CRL.

I for one speaking as an IOC member fully support a Dedra CRL.

I for one speaking as an IOC member fully support a Dedra CRL.