LindsayL

Some things should go without saying, but we live in an age where we do have to say things. I will cross post this in the Officer's Mess too.
 
At no times will this detachment be a home or accepting to people that are friendly to or espouse the ideas behind fascism, Nazism or any totalitarian ideology. We dress up as fictional space bad guys. Conflating any of the above with doing that is not only morally wrong, it puts at risk what we do here in this detachment and the legion as a whole. We will not allow such a risk.
 
I have spoken to members who have belonged to reenacting groups that have had those ideologies come into them. That will not be permitted here, not under this administration. And if that day ever comes that it would be allowed, I would hope you would join me in finding another hobby.
 
There will be no litmus tests for members. If you are a reenactor, I hope you enjoy doing it and I hope you keep the ideology out of it. There is no conversation over re-enacting that you cannot take private. And if you are an open adopter of the ideologies listed above, no one wants to hear it...ever. If you see something in violation of this, please contact the staff and we will deal with it promptly.

corrections made and we submitted this!

Updated flavor text:
Formed from the officer ranks of Republic Military at the end of the Clone Wars, the Imperial Military Officers provide leadership to the armed forces. A combined service made of naval and army officers, serving individual sectors and direct control from Coruscant. Officers provide front line, managerial and strategic leadership for the forces of the Galactic Empire. Officers serving in the Seventh Fleet wore a special patch denoting their elite position.
 

Updated!
I need the TKID of the model and the photographer name. Also need someone to write a description. 
That's all I need!!
 
 
 
 
 
http://www.501st.com/include/images/crlblackhd.gif   Imperial Military Officer: Rebels Model MODEL NAME, Photo by PHOTOGRAPHER NAME    
Description: Description
Prefix: COSTUME DESIGNATION
Detachment: Imperial Officer Corps
Context: Rebels
CHARACTER DESCRIPTION
   
This CRL is a work in progress and is not yet ready to use for any approval!
  Required Costume Components The following costume components are present and appear as described below.
   
Hat, Olive, Rebels Style Hat is OPTIONAL but only if a specific referenced licensed character’s typical uniform configuration is copied in full, and does not typically include a hat. Fabric is a medium weight suiting material exactly matching the tunic and pants. Color matches the tunic and pants. Base of the hat is conical, with a crown about 4" (101.6 mm) tall. Front and rear "flaps" overlap on the sides and are about 4" (101.6 mm) high. Front bill extends 3" down, decorated with (5) (6) or (7) concentric stitches. Imperial Code Disk positioned in the center of the front vertical "flap." Code Disk exactly matches Rebels style disc  
 
Tunic, Olive Fabric is a medium weight Olive/Field grey colored suiting material matching the trousers (and hat, if present). Tunic is double-breasted with a left over right closure on the tapered yoke. Yoke comes up across the shoulder to the top shoulder seam. The standing collar has square corners, is between 1.25" (31.8 mm) to 2" tall, and closes snugly. The wearer's neck must not be visible between the closed collar edges. A modesty panel behind the collar closure is recommended to help with this, but is not required. Collar edges are closed together in front with two eye hooks. There are code cylinder pockets on both outside panels of the jacket, from about half way between the top and bottom on the arm hole. A central seam runs down the back of the tunic, with no princess seams. Tunic has long sleeves which are without decoration, cuffs or buttons. Tunic is constructed with no top-stitching (stitches visible on the exterior surface of fabric). Fasteners on the uniform should not be visible. Uniform is to be pressed and free of a wrinkled appearance.    
OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): Sleeve may contain one seam on the inner arm  
   
Trousers Fabric is a medium weight suiting material exactly matching the tunic. Trousers are flared riding breeches, with semi-stiff flares to the hip/thigh area. Breeches are worn with boots. Breeches are neatly pressed or ironed without creases. The flares on the jodhpurs mimic the shape of Rebels officer’s flares Pockets are acceptable, although must not be visible with the tunic on.  
OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):
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Officer Boots Knee-high, black, riding style, lace-less, smooth non-textured, leather or leather-like material. Boots have conservative heels. A single stretch panel or zipper may be present, they are to be hidden on the inner part of the boot shaft. Not visible from the front, side or back. The top of the boots may be flat or Spanish Style, but not Cowboy or Super Hero (pointed at the front) style. A small V-shaped notch may be present on the back of the boots top. Boots may have a top adjustment strap on the outside of the boots with a flap attached to the rear seam of the boots. Buckle is attached to the front of the rear flap. Boots may have a zipper.  
OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): Boots have a flat top, not Spanish style. OPTIONAL Level three certification (if applicable): Boots are made of leather. Not vinyl or PVC. Exact replicas of English riding (dress) boots or Equestrian boots.  
   
Rank Bar Worn on the left side of the tunic over the heart. Rank consists of colored plastic tiles mounted on metal or metal looking bar. Each bar is approximately 1" (25.4 mm) height. Top bar has a small radius on the top right and left corner. Bottom bar has a small radius on the bottom right and left corner.  
OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): Rank bar is one strip with four rounded corners NOT two separate bars as with OT rank bars; tiles are opaque.  
   
Code Cylinders, Rebels Two Code Cylinders are worn. Modified Silver "chalk holder" tube with a short clip and blue top. Dosimeter Style: True Dosimeter with correct clip and Blue top is also acceptable. Clip is silver in color.  
OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): Must be Rebels style code cylinder with correct Rebels style clip and blue caps.  
   
 
Belt The belt is constructed from a non-textured leather or a leather-like material. Approximately 2" (50.8 mm) and 3" (76.2 mm) wide. There are no loops on the belt. A single large snap or rivet is visible to the left of the buckle, snap may be raised to a semi conical shape. The buckle is constructed from a horizontally brushed metal, or metal looking material. Buckle is adorned with a Rebel’s Era Imperial Code Disk off centered at the top.  
OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): Belt does not have grooves. Belt is made of leather.  
   
Optional Accessories Items below are optional costume accessories. These items are not required for approval, but if present appear as described below. If adding in an accessory after initial approval, the item still needs to be submitted to local GML for approval before use.
 
Chimaera Patch Worn on the left arm.  
 
 
Belt boxes (Non-Saga style) Dimensions are approximately 2 inches (50.8 mm) wide, 3 inches (76.2 mm) tall and 1 inch (25.4 mm) thick. Two boxes to be worn vertically, one each on either side of the belt buckle.  
OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): Belt boxes are made of metal or cast resin. If resin, corners have a “stepped 90-degree cutout” in the shape of a square on all four corners of the face of the box.  
   
Gloves Black, wrist length gloves constructed of a non-textured leather or leather-like material. Enclosed fingers. No buckles, straps, or other decoration.  
OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): Gloves extend past the wearer's wrist several inches, covering the forearm while reaching or bending the arm.  
   
Colored contact lenses Colored contact lenses must be worn if required to accurately portray an alien character’s inhuman eye coloring. Contacts giving the appearance of any natural human eye color may be worn to emulate a specific officer's configuration, if desired. All persons utilizing contact lenses are encouraged to first see their optometrist for a fitting.  
 
Holster Made of black leather or leather-like material.  
OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable): Holster is affixed via a single loop over the belt. Holster is made of leather.  
   
SE-14R Light Repeating Blaster The barrel detailing is evident with the cocking lever and slider in place. The ejection port is also evident. The scope mount looks similar to the magazine but smaller in size. The scope does not protrude past the blaster body.

Thanks!
We should lock this thread or merge it, possibly. @buckrogersbarker

I thought that patch was cool. 

are you able to take photos of the four views with you wearing it?

Edit: never mind, i found them here.
 
https://imgur.com/a/QC2Wwhm

Going to a concert Monday night so can’t make this, but was there this past weekend, lots of fun as usual! Bouncers do ask to see both ID and vax card before you’re allowed in, both bars I went to in LA this weekend did, not sure if still will in May, but might want to bring both anyway just in case. Also, in the parking lots behind the bar there are machines you pay to get a ticket to park, do not pay the person who stands there collecting money, they ask for $15, the machine is $10. Tell them no you’re going to get a ticket from the machine. 

@buckrogersbarker 
Below are links to costume pics and me in the costume. I can get better tunic pics, but gotta wait till the weekend to do that because I moved a few months ago and the costume is in storage, so I’ll get it out of my storage unit and take pics this weekend. I assume closed front tunic pic is needed, anything else? I figure boots, blaster, blaster holder you’d use pics of those from other CRLs—it seems the same pics of those items are used in most of the IOC CRLs. The Thrawn Rebels CRL has the blaster and blaster holder I saw other officers in Rebels use, but like I mentioned above I never saw faceless officers use a blaster. The belt and gloves are the same as shown in the Pryce CRL, so those can be used or I can take more pics of mine. Thank you!
 
https://imgur.com/a/m7QsfzC
 
And:
 
https://imgur.com/a/QC2Wwhm

Yes, I’ll get Imgur  links up shortly!

This costume has been cleared to proceed by the LMO office as of this morning.  @LindsayL do you have the full views of your finished costume ready? As well as photos of the individual components?

I am going to formally request that this costume be allowed to be built by the LMO office.  I assume we are not that far away from a completion and should have  CRL this year.

To me piping would make it look less animated, I see the animated style as minimalistic and adding piping would make an officer uniform look busy and full of unnecessary detail especially since the Rebels officer uniforms don’t have piping. In Rebels for cadets you can clearly see the grey piping—they are not just lines drawn to show seams they are genuinely extra piping details—they don’t just follow seams on the uniform, they are added in other places to make a design on the uniform—so it’s deliberate extra detail and not just lines drawn to show the seams, so it makes sense for that costume but you don’t see piping in the officer uniforms. In Rebels officers there are lines showing seams (which the uniform has and does show—the CRL even says “stitches visible on exterior surface of fabric”, and to me that is what we are seeing in Rebels not piping) and on the side where it buttons you’ll see shadow lines (sometimes it looks wider or smaller depending on lighting in the scene) and you’ll see the slight overlap on the shoulder to show that’s the side with the flap that’s buttoned and there is no piping there, just shadow, there are no extra lines to show extra details or design in the officer uniforms like you see in the cadet one. All the current animated  officer uniforms CRLs don’t have piping either because it’s just the seams which can be seen, so it’s consistent that they don’t have piping. 
 
 

.... and I think we're done? 

Lastly, boots and accessories! I propose we just lift existing boots and accessory verbiage from the Imperial Military Officers (again, since this is supposed to be a generic Rebels officer CRL - I think we can always add on / revise as needed).
 
Officer Boots
Knee-high, black, riding style, lace-less, smooth non-textured, leather or leather-like material. There are no buckles, snap tabs or decoration. Boots have conservative heels. A single stretch panel or zipper may be present, they are to be hidden on the inner part of the boot shaft. Not visible from the front, side or back. The top of the boots may be flat or Spanish Style, but not Cowboy or Super Hero (pointed at the front) style. A small V-shaped notch may be present that the back of the boots top.  
OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):
Boots do not have a zipper.  
OPTIONAL Level three certification (if applicable):
Boots are made of leather. Not vinyl or PVC. Exact replicas of English riding (dress) boots or Equestrian boots.  
Gloves (Optional)
Black, wrist length gloves constructed of a smooth, non-textured leather or leather-like material. Enclosed fingers. No buckles, straps, etc.  
OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):
Gloves have a plain back and no visible adornments. Gloves made of leather. Gloves end just past the wrist.  
OPTIONAL Level three certification (if applicable):
Gloves have a notch centered in the edge below the palm. Slit may be straight or rounded.  
Belt boxes (Optional)
Dimensions are approximately 2" (50.8mm) wide by 3" (76.2 mm) tall by 1" x (25.4mm) thick. Two boxes to be worn vertically, one each on either side of the belt buckle.  
OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):
Belt boxes are made of metal.  
Colored contact lenses (Optional)
Colored contact lenses must be worn if required to accurately portray an alien character’s inhuman eye coloring. Contacts giving the appearance of any natural human eye color may be worn to emulate a specific officer's configuration, if desired. All persons utilizing contact lenses are encouraged to first see their optometrist for a fitting.  
Holster (Optional)
Made of black leather or leather-like material.  
OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):
Holster is affixed via a single loop over the belt. Holster is made of leather.  
SE-14R Light Repeating Blaster (Optional)
The barrel detailing is evident with the cocking lever and slider in place. The ejection port is also evident. The scope mount looks similar to the magazine but smaller in size. The scope does not protrude past the blaster body.

Definitely not late to the party at all - that's why we have this discussion out in the open, so we can capture everyone's input!
 
I very much agree on some of the input you have here - a lot of our current verbiage was a result of us wanting to match up to previous Rebel character verbiage. But then again - no reason why we can't make updates to other CRLs after as well!
 
What do y'all think of the update? Below in red. These will make it even more accurate for Rebel at basic  
 
Hat, Olive, Rebels-Style
Hat is OPTIONAL but only if a specific referenced licensed character’s typical uniform configuration is copied in full, and does not typically include a hat. Fabric is a medium weight suiting material matching the pants and tunic if applicable. Cavalry Twill or a Gabardine style weave is most accurate. Base of the hat is conical, with a crown about 4 inches (101.6 mm) tall. Front and rear “flaps” overlap on the sides, with the back flap over the front, and are about 4 inches (101.6 mm) high. Front bill extends 3 inches down; there are no concentric stitches. Imperial Code Disk is positioned in the center of the front vertical "flap.” Code Disk exactly matches Rebels style disk OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):
Code Disk exactly matches Rebels style disk Tunic, Olive
Fabric is a medium weight Olive/Field grey colored suiting material matching the trousers (and hat, if present). Cavalry Twill or a Gabardine style weave is most accurate. The most accurate color is “Feldgrau", or “Field grey”, which is a greenish-gray color, close to Olive. Tunic is double-breasted with a left over right closure on the tapered yoke. Yoke comes up across the shoulder to the top shoulder seam. The standing collar has square corners, is between 1.25" (31.8 mm) to 2" tall, and closes snugly. The wearer's neck must not be visible between the closed collar edges. A modesty panel behind the collar closure is recommended to help with this, but is not required. Collar edges are closed together in front with two eye hooks. There are code cylinder pockets on both outside panels of the jacket, from about half way between the top and bottom on the arm hole. A central seam runs down the back of the tunic, with no princess seams. Tunic has long sleeves which are without decoration, cuffs or buttons. Tunic is constructed with no top-stitching (stitches visible on the exterior surface of fabric). Fasteners on the uniform should not be visible. Uniform is to be pressed and free of a wrinkled appearance. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):
Sleeve may contain one seam on the inner arm
Belt
The belt is constructed from a non-textured leather or a leather-like material. Approximately 2" (50.8 mm) in width no more than approximately 3" (76.2 mm) wide. There are no loops on the belt. A single large snap or rivet is visible approximately 1" (25.4 mm) to the left of the buckle, snap can be raised to a semi conical shape. The buckle is constructed from a horizontally brushed metal, or metal looking material. Buckle has a raised metal code disk. Code Disk exactly matches Rebels style disk OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):
Belt does not have grooves.  

While we look over the updates I am proposing above, here are some proposed verbiage for the jodhpur trousers. Words taken from Pryce and revised to make it more Rebel officer centric.
 
Jodhpur Trousers
Fabric is a medium weight suiting material exactly matching the tunic. Trousers are flared riding breeches, with semi-stiff flares to the hip/thigh area. Breeches are worn with boots. Breeches are neatly pressed or ironed without creases. The flares on the jodhpurs mimic the shape of Rebels officer’s flares Pockets are acceptable, although must not be visible with the tunic on.  

The photoshoot will be held on Saturday, May 28th at 10:30 AM at the convention Staircase.

Hey all!  I'm late to the party here, for which I apologize... real world life has been kicking my Imperial hindquarters quite a bit lately.
 
A couple of thoughts, which can be revisited later if you'd like:
 
"Cavalry Twill or a Gabardine style weave is most accurate."
 
That's obviously accurate for real-world officers, but since we are making a uniquely animated costume here, is that actually needed?  Not one little scrap of fabric weave is visible in this animation, even in extreme closeups.  I don't think we should mandate smooth fabric, of course, but I'm also not sure we should get into specific fabrics used in the live action shows.
 
Then there's the code disc for the hat and belt.  It's a pretty key distinguishing feature, given how different it is from the live action parts.  Are you sure it should be L2, as opposed to L1?  There's at least one established vendor, unless things have changed, AND they don't seem like they'd be that hard to hand make, if you're handy that way... it's basically a washer, right?
 
For the tunic, should the central seam down the back be a basic requirement, or L2?  Seems like a pretty key distinguishing feature of the Rebels version vs a regular officer, since we're distinctly making this an animated officer costume.  (I guess that could be discussed later, but wanted to mention...)
 
For the Rebels Code Cylinders, I hope we can get some good examples of how the real Rebels ones should be done.
 
I'll try to revisit this soon... tonight started off as IOC catch up and ended up crunching Excel spreadsheets for work for three hours, so I feel like I've lost my way here and it's 1am all of a sudden...

Sounds good! 

Here's an image of a "rebel style" rank bar for reference
 

Alright, moving on! I updated the sleeve language to "Sleeve may contain one seam on the inner arm", to make it flow better.
 
Rank Bar time!
 
We already have verbiage from Pryce's rank bar. I started from there, and borrowed some verbiage from the Imperial Military Officer (Non-Saga).
 
Rank Bar
Worn on the left side of the tunic over the heart, aligned with the code cylinder pocket. Rank consists of same-sized colored plastic tiles mounted on metal or metal looking bar. Length and height are determined by chosen rank. Each bar is approximately 1" (25.4 mm) height.
Rank bar corners are slightly rounded.
Rank tiles are translucent, rectangular, positioned side by side in a vertical orientation, and evenly spaced. Color, quantity, and combinations of the tiles/bars are determined by rank, and are appropriate to uniform type/color as supported by licensed reference.
 
OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):
For rank bars with two rows, the rank bar is one strip with four rounded corners NOT two separate bars as with OT rank bars; tiles are opaque. Chosen rank to match a specific officer seen onscreen or other licensed media.

Totally makes sense with the seam comment. Even though my philosophy is usually "if it's not in the text and looks accurate, go for it", let's make it explicit to make it easier for GMLs and applicants.
 
For the Governor Pryce CRL, there is a lvl 2 requirement like the below. Maybe we do the same for level 2 of the tunic here?
 
Sleeves contain one seam on the inner arm.

Alright! Let's lock it and move on. Let's now talk TUNIC!
 
Let's start with the text below - 
 
Tunic, Olive
Fabric is a medium weight Olive/Field grey colored suiting material matching the trousers (and hat, if present). Cavalry Twill or a Gabardine style weave is most accurate. The most accurate color is “Feldgrau", or “Field grey”, which is a greenish-gray color, close to Olive. Tunic is double-breasted with a left over right closure on the tapered yoke. Yoke comes up across the shoulder to the top shoulder seam. The standing collar has square corners, is between 1.25" (31.8 mm) to 2" tall, and closes snugly. The wearer's neck must not be visible between the closed collar edges. A modesty panel behind the collar closure is recommended to help with this, but is not required. Collar edges are closed together in front with two eye hooks. There are code cylinder pockets on both outside panels of the jacket, from about half way between the top and bottom on the arm hole. Tunic has long sleeves which are without decoration, cuffs or buttons. Tunic is constructed with no top-stitching (stitches visible on the exterior surface of fabric). Fasteners on the uniform should not be visible. Uniform is to be pressed and free of a wrinkled appearance. OPTIONAL Level two certification (if applicable):
A central seam runs down the back of the tunic, with no princess seams.

Sounds good to me